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Who Are Some NYG Players We Could Put On The Trading Block?

Anakim : 10/14/2018 12:37 pm
I see the Raiders have already been shopping Karl Joseph and Amari Cooper.


Who are some players you think DG may part with? It'd be nice to get some draft picks. Right now, we only have a 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 and two sevenths (one from the Ogletree trade and one from the Brett Jones trade).


I would think Jackrabbit would probably be the most notable name who could be traded.
As much as I'd hate to do it, I'd trade Snacks  
jcn56 : 10/14/2018 12:39 pm : link
I don't think his knees have the same timeline as the Giants. Much like Eli, I'm pretty sure that by the time this team gets it's shit together, he'll be over the hill.

Plus, he's likely to command a decent haul now. Just not sure what the cap implications of moving him might be.
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christian : 10/14/2018 12:42 pm : link
Can the Giants absorb the accelerated hit of guaranteed money this year? Wouldn't all his dead money hit this year's cap?
If the Giants want to keep Collins long term  
Jay on the Island : 10/14/2018 12:53 pm : link
they should offer an extension now. If his demands are too high then he should be dealt by the deadline. He would bring back at least a 2nd round pick possibly even a 1st from a contender.
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arcarsenal : 10/14/2018 12:57 pm : link
Honestly, there's not a single player outside of Saquon that I wouldn't trade right now if the return was good enough.
Of the guys that could net something....  
Keith : 10/14/2018 1:00 pm : link
Id trade snacks and jackrabbit. Not sure who else would even have enough value. Love to see a playoff team lose their qb and trade Eli for a 4th/5th.
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crick n NC : 10/14/2018 1:00 pm : link
In comment 14127561 arcarsenal said:
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Honestly, there's not a single player outside of Saquon that I wouldn't trade right now if the return was good enough.


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I'd like to keep Hernandez as well
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Danny Kanell : 10/14/2018 1:02 pm : link
We could get a hell of a haul for Collins. I wouldnt think twice and Im a fan of his.

Hes up for a big deal and I honestly dont think the Giants should be shelling out anymore big 2nd contracts until the QB position is settled.
I agree with JCN.  
Diver_Down : 10/14/2018 1:03 pm : link
I love Snacks and his play, but with 2 years remaining, I'm not confident that his health will last. Better to deal him to a contender for his benefit and ours. He should be able to fetch a 2nd as his contract is very affordable if not undervalued. I don't believe we can move him during the season, but during the off-season, it can be done with only a $3.2M dead cap hit.
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arcarsenal : 10/14/2018 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14127565 crick n NC said:
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Honestly, there's not a single player outside of Saquon that I wouldn't trade right now if the return was good enough.



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I'd like to keep Hernandez as well


Yup - good call. I would also keep Big Willy.
I don't think we would get a "haul" for Collins.  
Diver_Down : 10/14/2018 1:08 pm : link
Not for the privilege of paying him. I would think a third rounder would be expected.

I mentioned the other day and the details about trading Vernon. I don't think he sees next year in Blue. At $15.5M for next year, he would have to transform into LT. So we either release him and take the dead cap hit or we look to trade him before the deadline and get something for him. JPP yielded a third rounder with a shitty contract and 7 fingers. I wouldn't consider anything less for Vernon.
RE: I agree with JCN.  
Jay on the Island : 10/14/2018 1:08 pm : link
In comment 14127567 Diver_Down said:
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I love Snacks and his play, but with 2 years remaining, I'm not confident that his health will last. Better to deal him to a contender for his benefit and ours. He should be able to fetch a 2nd as his contract is very affordable if not undervalued. I don't believe we can move him during the season, but during the off-season, it can be done with only a $3.2M dead cap hit.

If they could get a 2nd for Snacks then I would strongly consider it. Tomlinson and Hill are keepers and I like what I have seen from Mario Edwards at DE.
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arcarsenal : 10/14/2018 1:09 pm : link
Probably BJ Hill too, actually.
RE: I don't think we would get a  
Danny Kanell : 10/14/2018 1:09 pm : link
In comment 14127573 Diver_Down said:
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Not for the privilege of paying him. I would think a third rounder would be expected.

I mentioned the other day and the details about trading Vernon. I don't think he sees next year in Blue. At $15.5M for next year, he would have to transform into LT. So we either release him and take the dead cap hit or we look to trade him before the deadline and get something for him. JPP yielded a third rounder with a shitty contract and 7 fingers. I wouldn't consider anything less for Vernon.


I think youre undervaluing Collins as a trade asset.
Complete fire sale  
FStubbs : 10/14/2018 1:16 pm : link
Other than the rookies I'd make it clear anybody is available.

I hadn't thought about trading Snacks but now that I think about it, he's being wasted right now.
RE: I don't think we would get a  
christian : 10/14/2018 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14127573 Diver_Down said:
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Not for the privilege of paying him. I would think a third rounder would be expected.

I mentioned the other day and the details about trading Vernon. I don't think he sees next year in Blue. At $15.5M for next year, he would have to transform into LT. So we either release him and take the dead cap hit or we look to trade him before the deadline and get something for him. JPP yielded a third rounder with a shitty contract and 7 fingers. I wouldn't consider anything less for Vernon.


Vernon could very well take a straight pay cut to stay. On the open market he's not likely to get anywhere near his current contract, and avoiding the dead money and having to find a replacement for the Giants is an incentive.
I could see Goodson getting traded  
Anakim : 10/14/2018 2:07 pm : link
Seems like Shurmur and Bettcher prefer a more athletic LB like Ray Ray to play alongside Ogletree.
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AcidTest : 10/14/2018 2:11 pm : link
would trade Snacks, Collins, Jenkins, SS, Vernon, and pretty much anyone else. No 'firesales," but yes if the compensation is reasonable.
Collins is a younger star  
jcn56 : 10/14/2018 2:17 pm : link
he's a building block. Worst case scenario, you keep him until it's time for him to walk, and if you don't re-sign him the contract he gets in FA likely nets you a 4th rounder anyway.

You're trading guys who are older, and who won't be part of the team (or playing at a high enough level) by the time they've turned it around, hopefully 2 years from now.

Ugh. We're that bad a team now, it's going to take 3 fucking years for a halfway decent season.
Everyone but Barkley  
Go Terps : 10/14/2018 2:35 pm : link
Everyone that isn't Barkley should be on the block. Won't happen though because the front office has an unrealistic view of where this organization is.
RE: Everyone but Barkley  
christian : 10/14/2018 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14127731 Go Terps said:
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Everyone that isn't Barkley should be on the block. Won't happen though because the front office has an unrealistic view of where this organization is.


And also that pesky part where it's actually financially impossible.
RE: RE: Everyone but Barkley  
Go Terps : 10/14/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14127742 christian said:
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Everyone that isn't Barkley should be on the block. Won't happen though because the front office has an unrealistic view of where this organization is.



And also that pesky part where it's actually financially impossible.


There's a difference between trading everyone and putting everyone on the block.
All of them except the rookie class  
djm : 10/14/2018 2:48 pm : link
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RE: Everyone but Barkley  
djm : 10/14/2018 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14127731 Go Terps said:
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Everyone that isn't Barkley should be on the block. Won't happen though because the front office has an unrealistic view of where this organization is.


Maybe they dont. Just because they said some things in July about winning now doesnt mean they truly believe this to be true. And really other than the solder move the other fa signings or trades were pretty low key. And we absolutely had to get a LT rebuild or not.
Trade  
Jon in NYC : 10/14/2018 2:52 pm : link
Eli to the Jags for a 2nd.
RE: RE: RE: Everyone but Barkley  
christian : 10/14/2018 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14127755 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14127742 christian said:


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In comment 14127731 Go Terps said:


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Everyone that isn't Barkley should be on the block. Won't happen though because the front office has an unrealistic view of where this organization is.



And also that pesky part where it's actually financially impossible.



There's a difference between trading everyone and putting everyone on the block.


What players actually don't have accelerated guaranteed money that the Giants could absorb right now?
Jenkins  
WillVAB : 10/14/2018 3:01 pm : link
Is the only one who makes sense. A trade w the Steelers may work. They need another corner if they want to make a run this year and Jenkins would fit with Haden on the other side. I dont know the cap implications, but Id want at least a 2nd in return.

Vernon I dont really see the point of trading away the only pass rusher on the team. The Giants should be trying to accumulate rushers, not dump them.

Snacks his cap hit isnt that bad and he should be part of the solution, not a fire sale candidate.

Collins if they cant agree to a deal then trading him is a possibility. Not sure how realistic of a possibility given where hes at in his rookie deal. Hell most likely get a 3rd round comp pick if he walks and I doubt a team would give up more than that.



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FStubbs : 10/14/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14127755 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14127731 Go Terps said:


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Everyone that isn't Barkley should be on the block. Won't happen though because the front office has an unrealistic view of where this organization is.



And also that pesky part where it's actually financially impossible.



There's a difference between trading everyone and putting everyone on the block.


+1
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bradshaw44 : 10/14/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14127561 arcarsenal said:
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Honestly, there's not a single player outside of Saquon that I wouldn't trade right now if the return was good enough.


Agreed.
Anyone and everyone save for...  
M.S. : 10/14/2018 4:00 pm : link

...Saquon Barkley is tradeable.

Especially Jack Rabitt, OBJ, Snacks and Collins.

If we could get rid of these four and bring in:

Three 1s
Two 2s
One 3

I would sell them all.

Yesterday
Anyone but Saquon  
Chris684 : 10/14/2018 5:26 pm : link
In a perfect world we could trade everyone but Saquon.
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bigbluehoya : 10/14/2018 5:42 pm : link
In comment 14127778 christian said:
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In comment 14127742 christian said:


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In comment 14127731 Go Terps said:


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Everyone that isn't Barkley should be on the block. Won't happen though because the front office has an unrealistic view of where this organization is.



And also that pesky part where it's actually financially impossible.



There's a difference between trading everyone and putting everyone on the block.



What players actually don't have accelerated guaranteed money that the Giants could absorb right now?


Keep in mind that the accelerated hit of un-prorated signing bonuses would be offset by 10/16 of the current year salary which the acquiring team would take on.
For instance  
bigbluehoya : 10/14/2018 5:46 pm : link
And Ill preface this with an honest if my understanding is correct...

Harrison actually only has 3.6M of unamortized signing bonus left. His current year salary is 7.75M. If the Giants traded him this week, it would probably be about cap neutral (if you assume that the player replacing him on the 53-man is making near the league minimum)
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