Why there was the backlash there was last season with Eli.
None of us would of had a problem if they came to a decision WITH Eli and released a statement saying the streak was going to come to an end due to evaluating the future.
You won’t find a bigger Eli fan than myself but I would have totally been on board with that. In fact, I still think it’s a joke we never saw Webb in real games last season.
The problem for most NYG fans is that his consecutive starts streak and overall tenure here is cherished by many. To think his fate was going to be decided by an incompetent fucking asshole like McAdoo was a problem.
All that said, we should be seeing Lauletta after the BYE but we are going to repeat history.
Mara is the problem and it isn't going to change any time soon. I really hope he sells and if fans stop going to games he won't be able to pay the mortgage on that lousy stadium and have no choice. I've felt for a while they core problem is the culture. Working for the Giants is more like working for IBM or AT&T than a sports team. It's not about winning but rather maintaining a bottom line. My fear is the Giants will be numerous examples of chronic losing teams with owners too stubborn or incompetent to understand. The Bidwell Cardinals. The Ford Lions. The Culverhouse Bucs. The Synder Redskins to name a few. Mara has nothing else to do except the Giants where other successful owners run private businesses. I sense Mara wants to win, but just doesn't know how. If Tisch was responsible for football operations I bet he'd hire a GM with total control. That would make a difference.
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Why there was the backlash there was last season with Eli.
None of us would of had a problem if they came to a decision WITH Eli and released a statement saying the streak was going to come to an end due to evaluating the future.
You won’t find a bigger Eli fan than myself but I would have totally been on board with that. In fact, I still think it’s a joke we never saw Webb in real games last season.
The problem for most NYG fans is that his consecutive starts streak and overall tenure here is cherished by many. To think his fate was going to be decided by an incompetent fucking asshole like McAdoo was a problem.
All that said, we should be seeing Lauletta after the BYE but we are going to repeat history.
I think ewe will see Lauletta if he is ready. If he doesn't get any time this season then that will say that either he isn't ready or he hasn't developed as hoped. There is no reason to play Tanney.
Why there was the backlash there was last season with Eli.
None of us would of had a problem if they came to a decision WITH Eli and released a statement saying the streak was going to come to an end due to evaluating the future.
You won’t find a bigger Eli fan than myself but I would have totally been on board with that. In fact, I still think it’s a joke we never saw Webb in real games last season.
The problem for most NYG fans is that his consecutive starts streak and overall tenure here is cherished by many. To think his fate was going to be decided by an incompetent fucking asshole like McAdoo was a problem.
All that said, we should be seeing Lauletta after the BYE but we are going to repeat history.
until he agrees with your agenda - then he doesn't.
This. Boomer has been BBIs favorite whipping boy for many years for his constant ripping of the Giants. He never misses an opportunity to take a shot at them. Now, he’s the voice of reason?
How the hell would he know what’s going on behind closed doors? He doesn’t have a clue. But people that want to believe it are now his biggest fans...
until he agrees with your agenda - then he doesn't.
Boomer sucks period. Couldn't stand him with carton and cant stand him now. He is as big of a phony as you will ever see. He offers nothing whether I agree with him or not.
Boomer is a dope. He's just offering up an observation that is pretty obvious. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Pretty obvious? You honestly think Mara told them “Eli is your guy, make it work!”? Seriously? They may have told him what he was hoping to hear, that they thought they could still win with Eli, but people honestly think Mara TOLD them he was their guy? Jeezus man. This place has lost its damn mind.
Boomer is a dope. He's just offering up an observation that is pretty obvious. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Pretty obvious? You honestly think Mara told them “Eli is your guy, make it work!”? Seriously? They may have told him what he was hoping to hear, that they thought they could still win with Eli, but people honestly think Mara TOLD them he was their guy? Jeezus man. This place has lost its damn mind.
No, I don't think Mara locked Gettleman and Shurmur in a closet and said start Manning or else.
Yes. I do think keeping Manning was a major condition for anyone who was going to get the job(s) and GM and HC jobs are finite, difficult to come by and taking them always comes with conditions from owners.
and contract structure, it was likely he was going to be starting this season regardless of whether they drafted darnold, allen or rosen. why do people not seem to understand that simple fact? if they didn't have a conviction on any of those QBs, and really thought barkely was a generational talent, then they did the right thing in starting to try and turn the team around..
Mara is the problem and it isn't going to change any time soon. I really hope he sells
Oh yeah... LOL The franchise has been a cash cow the Mara family for a century and the next few generations of Mara's will never have to worry about money.
Maybe you should check Craigslist daily to see if the Giants are for sale. Let me know... I will split the down payment with you.
The arguments against taking Barkley do not hold up.Barkley is an unbelievable talent.Likely the best running back the Giants have ever had.The Giants will have a chance to take a QB as good or better than Darnold and without Rosen's history of injury in April or May. The real problem with the Giants off season was the use of free agency.That is not on the owners.
Hope that it was the Mara mandate rather then Shurmer/Gettleman deciding after looking at Manning's performance the last few years, that Manning should be the QB.
Hope that it was the Mara mandate rather then Shurmer/Gettleman deciding after looking at Manning's performance the last few years, that Manning should be the QB.
LOL, I never thought of it that way but you're right, at least that way you'd know they weren't that far off.
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Why there was the backlash there was last season with Eli.
None of us would of had a problem if they came to a decision WITH Eli and released a statement saying the streak was going to come to an end due to evaluating the future.
You won’t find a bigger Eli fan than myself but I would have totally been on board with that. In fact, I still think it’s a joke we never saw Webb in real games last season.
The problem for most NYG fans is that his consecutive starts streak and overall tenure here is cherished by many. To think his fate was going to be decided by an incompetent fucking asshole like McAdoo was a problem.
All that said, we should be seeing Lauletta after the BYE but we are going to repeat history.
Eli stopped his consecutive game streak, no one else.
think he's right. The Maras are at least influencing player personnel decisions. They overreacted to Eli's benching. The problem wasn't the benching, it was that he was benched for Smith instead of Webb. It's ridiculous that we never got to see Webb in real games. They can't make the same mistake with Lauletta. Let's see what the rest of the season produces, but the early indication is that this should be Eli's last with the Giants.
Doesn't know anything especially when it comes to the giants. He has always taken every opportunity to say anything negative about mara and eli.
His next valid insight will be his first
Exactly and it's so obvious if you listen to his radio show. Even when they or Eli do something good he's always looking to find fault. It's more the other team not doing something right.
What objective insight Boomer has on the Giants can fit in a thimble.
Boomer isn't nearly as smart as he thinks he is. Â
Barkley was the player to draft. He's doing great things behind a still weak o-line. The qb's in the draft were pretty good but don't appear to be the outstanding group that they were made out to be. We'll get someone just as good in this year's draft.
They picked the best player in the draft. Which they would have, and should have, always done. So they’d be in the exact same place regardless of who they were building around.
Judy is most of them, can eat a dick. No one knows for certain whether Mara issued any mandates about Eli starting and to pass off speculation as fact is disingenuous and unprofessional. Par for the course.
Not that Mara is exempt from blame here. He most definitely should be in everyone’s crosshairs but we don’t know shit. Stop lying and making shit up there Boomer. Give me facts and attach your name to it instead of Horse shit gossip.
No. He passed off an opinion as fact. Again, this is unprofessional. Even if he was right he doesn’t know shit that many many other credible sources wouldn’t know.
already know my opinion on this, so I'll focus instead on this line:
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"They cleared the decks so there is no alternative"
"Cleared the decks"?? Of what Webb? As long as you have a backup QB, you have an alternative. For fucks sake, we just saw that with Geno Smith last year.
Left the ny pressure cooker, had a brilliant few years after.
It’s time for a break-up. 100% But Eli may not be done and it would be funny to see him shred the giants a few times on winning teams as his diva WR’s and TE’s get softball tosses from Kyle Lauletta or the next Dave Brown.
miscalculation was thinking that solder and omameh would seriously upgrade the OL. eli was going to be on the team regardless, and would have gone into the season as the starter..
But boomer is blinded by hatred of Eli. This feeding frenzy by the legion of Eli haters will only intensify. This group will never forgive him for proving them wrong after they declared him an instant bust.
miscalculation was thinking that solder and omameh would seriously upgrade the OL. eli was going to be on the team regardless, and would have gone into the season as the starter..
Solder and Omameh were certainly major miscalculations. As were Barwin, Martin, and Stewart.
Boomer is right, despite what many here say to the contrary.
Shurmur and Gettleman are here because they thought Eli could still get the job done.
It wasn’t a mandate but anyone that doesn’t think it’s the reason they got the job is fooling themselves.
Let’s not forget that the man who’s legacy is draft Eli Manning was the “consultant” in the GM hiring.
More like they "GOT THE JOB" because they became yes men to the Eli situation. Those guys are not stupid, they knew something was up with Eli and has been for quite some time. You can see it in the record.
I guess he has less credibility as a former player, connected league associate than say a bunch of people on a fucking message board. Where there is smoke there is fire, ODB lit it.
That is why we all saw Reese as horrendous and Mara did nothing, because he was Mara's butt boy. Now Gettleman is. Maybe the league may have to step in again to get it right, although that will take another 10 years to happen. John Mara is an idiot, and he sold McAdoo right down the river, he caused the mess from last season and was gutless to admit it, now the mess is worse and there is no McAdoo to blame. Fucking gutless moron.
Shurmur and Gettleman are here because they thought Eli could still get the job done.
It wasn’t a mandate but anyone that doesn’t think it’s the reason they got the job is fooling themselves.
Let’s not forget that the man who’s legacy is draft Eli Manning was the “consultant” in the GM hiring.
None of us would of had a problem if they came to a decision WITH Eli and released a statement saying the streak was going to come to an end due to evaluating the future.
You won’t find a bigger Eli fan than myself but I would have totally been on board with that. In fact, I still think it’s a joke we never saw Webb in real games last season.
The problem for most NYG fans is that his consecutive starts streak and overall tenure here is cherished by many. To think his fate was going to be decided by an incompetent fucking asshole like McAdoo was a problem.
All that said, we should be seeing Lauletta after the BYE but we are going to repeat history.
None of us would of had a problem if they came to a decision WITH Eli and released a statement saying the streak was going to come to an end due to evaluating the future.
You won’t find a bigger Eli fan than myself but I would have totally been on board with that. In fact, I still think it’s a joke we never saw Webb in real games last season.
The problem for most NYG fans is that his consecutive starts streak and overall tenure here is cherished by many. To think his fate was going to be decided by an incompetent fucking asshole like McAdoo was a problem.
All that said, we should be seeing Lauletta after the BYE but we are going to repeat history.
I think ewe will see Lauletta if he is ready. If he doesn't get any time this season then that will say that either he isn't ready or he hasn't developed as hoped. There is no reason to play Tanney.
His next valid insight will be his first
None of us would of had a problem if they came to a decision WITH Eli and released a statement saying the streak was going to come to an end due to evaluating the future.
You won’t find a bigger Eli fan than myself but I would have totally been on board with that. In fact, I still think it’s a joke we never saw Webb in real games last season.
The problem for most NYG fans is that his consecutive starts streak and overall tenure here is cherished by many. To think his fate was going to be decided by an incompetent fucking asshole like McAdoo was a problem.
All that said, we should be seeing Lauletta after the BYE but we are going to repeat history.
Watch as we start Tanney ffs.
This. Boomer has been BBIs favorite whipping boy for many years for his constant ripping of the Giants. He never misses an opportunity to take a shot at them. Now, he’s the voice of reason?
How the hell would he know what’s going on behind closed doors? He doesn’t have a clue. But people that want to believe it are now his biggest fans...
Boomer sucks period. Couldn't stand him with carton and cant stand him now. He is as big of a phony as you will ever see. He offers nothing whether I agree with him or not.
Pretty obvious? You honestly think Mara told them “Eli is your guy, make it work!”? Seriously? They may have told him what he was hoping to hear, that they thought they could still win with Eli, but people honestly think Mara TOLD them he was their guy? Jeezus man. This place has lost its damn mind.
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Boomer is a dope. He's just offering up an observation that is pretty obvious. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Pretty obvious? You honestly think Mara told them “Eli is your guy, make it work!”? Seriously? They may have told him what he was hoping to hear, that they thought they could still win with Eli, but people honestly think Mara TOLD them he was their guy? Jeezus man. This place has lost its damn mind.
No, I don't think Mara locked Gettleman and Shurmur in a closet and said start Manning or else.
Yes. I do think keeping Manning was a major condition for anyone who was going to get the job(s) and GM and HC jobs are finite, difficult to come by and taking them always comes with conditions from owners.
He is a symptom.
I have some remote hope for Maras, being the sons of the Duke. But I have never read or heard one insightful thing from Tisch.
Oh yeah... LOL The franchise has been a cash cow the Mara family for a century and the next few generations of Mara's will never have to worry about money.
Maybe you should check Craigslist daily to see if the Giants are for sale. Let me know... I will split the down payment with you.
It is why I question those who totally dismiss this idea
LOL, I never thought of it that way but you're right, at least that way you'd know they weren't that far off.
None of us would of had a problem if they came to a decision WITH Eli and released a statement saying the streak was going to come to an end due to evaluating the future.
You won’t find a bigger Eli fan than myself but I would have totally been on board with that. In fact, I still think it’s a joke we never saw Webb in real games last season.
The problem for most NYG fans is that his consecutive starts streak and overall tenure here is cherished by many. To think his fate was going to be decided by an incompetent fucking asshole like McAdoo was a problem.
All that said, we should be seeing Lauletta after the BYE but we are going to repeat history.
Eli stopped his consecutive game streak, no one else.
His next valid insight will be his first
Exactly and it's so obvious if you listen to his radio show. Even when they or Eli do something good he's always looking to find fault. It's more the other team not doing something right.
What objective insight Boomer has on the Giants can fit in a thimble.
Ereck Flowers.
Not that Mara is exempt from blame here. He most definitely should be in everyone’s crosshairs but we don’t know shit. Stop lying and making shit up there Boomer. Give me facts and attach your name to it instead of Horse shit gossip.
No. He passed off an opinion as fact. Again, this is unprofessional. Even if he was right he doesn’t know shit that many many other credible sources wouldn’t know.
"Cleared the decks"?? Of what Webb? As long as you have a backup QB, you have an alternative. For fucks sake, we just saw that with Geno Smith last year.
It’s time for a break-up. 100% But Eli may not be done and it would be funny to see him shred the giants a few times on winning teams as his diva WR’s and TE’s get softball tosses from Kyle Lauletta or the next Dave Brown.
It's clear management and ownership were spot on in evaluating the mileage left on the QB.
Solder and Omameh were certainly major miscalculations. As were Barwin, Martin, and Stewart.
Yup. The more things change the more they stay the same. Fire Reese, TC, Gillbride, Fewell, etc. but Chris Mara still making the calls is a joke.
May need some SELL THE TEAM bag masks for games in december.
Shurmur and Gettleman are here because they thought Eli could still get the job done.
It wasn’t a mandate but anyone that doesn’t think it’s the reason they got the job is fooling themselves.
Let’s not forget that the man who’s legacy is draft Eli Manning was the “consultant” in the GM hiring.
More like they "GOT THE JOB" because they became yes men to the Eli situation. Those guys are not stupid, they knew something was up with Eli and has been for quite some time. You can see it in the record.
...but Boomer is also a flaming A-hole.
Constantly.
Yeah so what if he won an MVP and took the Bengals to the SB, he doesn’t contribute to BBI., so he’s a loser!
Eli stopped his consecutive game streak, no one else.
Not only that, but only fans and media care about shit like that. A meaningless streak.
Oh we had another streak going for a while. A couple of years without scoring 30 points.