a first year starter have a bad half of football after having his team at 5-0 and tearing it up before that. If only we held all QB's to those standards..
He’d get shit on. A bit of pot calling kettle here as some use every other QB’s positive plays to shit on Eli Manning. It’s not a bad thing to point out that these guys play on a team
a first year starter have a bad half of football after having his team at 5-0 and tearing it up before that. If only we held all QB's to those standards..
Oh Jesus Christ.
Pointing out a bad first half isn’t the all to be end all.
In the first half for TDs. Threw 2 INTs that cost his team at least 11 points. And had to settle for 2 FGs.... I am sure you all would have been singing his praises, right?
He bounces back. He’s having a helluva 2nd half. Took advantages of some blown coverages.
Comparing a 15 year veteran to a kid making his seventh career start - good call
He’d get shit on. A bit of pot calling kettle here as some use every other QB’s positive plays to shit on Eli Manning. It’s not a bad thing to point out that these guys play on a team
He'd get shit on maybe because this team has been shit for 6 years and went 3-13 last year?
a first year starter have a bad half of football after having his team at 5-0 and tearing it up before that. If only we held all QB's to those standards..
Guess has to be flawlessly perfect..Brady is flawlessly perfect...oh wait! He lost a fumble in game
He’d get shit on. A bit of pot calling kettle here as some use every other QB’s positive plays to shit on Eli Manning. It’s not a bad thing to point out that these guys play on a team
In the first half for TDs. Threw 2 INTs that cost his team at least 11 points. And had to settle for 2 FGs.... I am sure you all would have been singing his praises, right?
He bounces back. He’s having a helluva 2nd half. Took advantages of some blown coverages.
Comparing a 15 year veteran to a kid making his seventh career start - good call
Addendum - especially when you remember that veteran's first 7 starts...
a first year starter have a bad half of football after having his team at 5-0 and tearing it up before that. If only we held all QB's to those standards..
Oh Jesus Christ.
Pointing out a bad first half isn’t the all to be end all.
The double standard is just funny. That doesn't even take into account the gap in experience, but that's fine.
a first year starter have a bad half of football after having his team at 5-0 and tearing it up before that. If only we held all QB's to those standards..
Oh Jesus Christ.
Pointing out a bad first half isn’t the all to be end all.
The double standard is just funny.
Was thinking the same exact thing....
RE: Well we got to watch two NFL offenses tonight.. Â
a first year starter have a bad half of football after having his team at 5-0 and tearing it up before that. If only we held all QB's to those standards..
Oh Jesus Christ.
Pointing out a bad first half isn’t the all to be end all.
The double standard is just funny.
Was thinking the same exact thing....
Yeah. So strange to have standards for a 15 year vet 2 time SB winner & MVP after being told all offseason by the franchise and certain posters on here that this was going to be a "revenge tour" and whatnot.
Anyone arguing or insinuating that the Mahomes hype needs to be taken down a notch after the first half he played in this game -- or that it is unreasonable to be impressed by him because he is capable of making the very same mistakes we chastise Eli for making -- is a person who has their mind made up on the matter.
Giants fans would be all over him, but there's a difference between Eli and Mahomes. Mahomes has a much better arm and is far more mobile. In addition, Mahomes has demonstrated a solid football IQ. If he were the Giants quarterback, the rest of the Giants offense would not be complaining about him even if the team weren't winning.
RE: Clearly Mahomes couldn't drive the current Giants offense Â
Mahomes can afford to be bad and still come out and do what he did in the second half. If we are going to bring Eli into that conversation than it’s fair to also say he usually or almost certainly cannot afford to have really bad first halves anymore.
Mahomes can afford to be bad and still come out and do what he did in the second half. If we are going to bring Eli into that conversation than it’s fair to also say he usually or almost certainly cannot afford to have really bad first halves anymore.
This is true. It’s not really about Eli anymore. Everyone knows he is done. The odd part is how other posters need to bring Eli into the conversation. The best is ....”well Eli could never make that play. Well Eli can’t make that throw.”
The same people who bash Eli and have for years get really defensive when you point out other QB flaws. It’s just really odd.
I don’t see the need to ever bring him up on a thread that has nothing to do with the Giants, it’s weird. It’s Tom Brady and probably the best young QB in the NFL, neither have anything to do with Eli.
Tyriek hill may argue with that.
Kid is dynamic.
Nope just pointing out a shitty half which is irrefutable.
Kid is dynamic.
Yeah..amazing isnt it..of course it takes full team effort..but the kid executes plays as well
Oh Jesus Christ.
Pointing out a bad first half isn’t the all to be end all.
He bounces back. He’s having a helluva 2nd half. Took advantages of some blown coverages.
Comparing a 15 year veteran to a kid making his seventh career start - good call
He'd get shit on maybe because this team has been shit for 6 years and went 3-13 last year?
Guess has to be flawlessly perfect..Brady is flawlessly perfect...oh wait! He lost a fumble in game
If?? He has first halves like that all the time
Quote:
In the first half for TDs. Threw 2 INTs that cost his team at least 11 points. And had to settle for 2 FGs.... I am sure you all would have been singing his praises, right?
He bounces back. He’s having a helluva 2nd half. Took advantages of some blown coverages.
Comparing a 15 year veteran to a kid making his seventh career start - good call
Addendum - especially when you remember that veteran's first 7 starts...
Quote:
a first year starter have a bad half of football after having his team at 5-0 and tearing it up before that. If only we held all QB's to those standards..
Oh Jesus Christ.
Pointing out a bad first half isn’t the all to be end all.
The double standard is just funny. That doesn't even take into account the gap in experience, but that's fine.
Fun football to watch
Even if it starts with figuring out what co-ed Ernie Adams killed and buried in a shallow grave when he was in college.
Quote:
In comment 14128800 Dave in Hoboken said:
Quote:
a first year starter have a bad half of football after having his team at 5-0 and tearing it up before that. If only we held all QB's to those standards..
Oh Jesus Christ.
Pointing out a bad first half isn’t the all to be end all.
The double standard is just funny.
Was thinking the same exact thing....
Yeah. Totally. Defenses were even better.
Quote:
In comment 14128805 dep026 said:
Quote:
In comment 14128800 Dave in Hoboken said:
Quote:
a first year starter have a bad half of football after having his team at 5-0 and tearing it up before that. If only we held all QB's to those standards..
Oh Jesus Christ.
Pointing out a bad first half isn’t the all to be end all.
The double standard is just funny.
Was thinking the same exact thing....
Yeah. So strange to have standards for a 15 year vet 2 time SB winner & MVP after being told all offseason by the franchise and certain posters on here that this was going to be a "revenge tour" and whatnot.
Yeah. Totally.
Can I use that original statement in my Instagram posts as long as I reference you?
And by the best, you mean the Eagles, right? Or another team?
Quote:
you have to beat the best.
Yeah. Totally.
Can I use that original statement in my Instagram posts as long as I reference you?
And by the best, you mean the Eagles, right? Or another team?
By all means.
No one said that, though.
I think you might have missed the first post in the thread.
Similarly - do you think the Chiefs would be able to run that offense with Eli at the helm?
Quote:
But if anyone thinks you could simply transpose Mahomes at QB behind this OL/scheme and get the same production is out of their mind.
No one said that, though.
What’s your point Dave?
Quote:
In comment 14128839 WillVAB said:
Quote:
But if anyone thinks you could simply transpose Mahomes at QB behind this OL/scheme and get the same production is out of their mind.
No one said that, though.
What’s your point Dave?
My point is no one said what you're inferring.
Quote:
In comment 14128842 Dave in Hoboken said:
Quote:
In comment 14128839 WillVAB said:
Quote:
But if anyone thinks you could simply transpose Mahomes at QB behind this OL/scheme and get the same production is out of their mind.
No one said that, though.
What’s your point Dave?
My point is no one said what you're inferring.
Cool, carry on with your passive aggressive bullshit then I suppose.
Quote:
In comment 14128846 WillVAB said:
Quote:
In comment 14128842 Dave in Hoboken said:
Quote:
In comment 14128839 WillVAB said:
Quote:
But if anyone thinks you could simply transpose Mahomes at QB behind this OL/scheme and get the same production is out of their mind.
No one said that, though.
What’s your point Dave?
My point is no one said what you're inferring.
Cool, carry on with your passive aggressive bullshit then I suppose.
Oh, the irony. Just because your failed attempt to put words in people's mouths was a complete and utter failure.
Enjoy the evening. I know I am.
But I do think they'd be better off with him. Why not? He is clearly a uniquely skilled player.
Similarly, I also think that the Jets would be better with Barkley as their running back over Crowell and Powell.
But I do think they'd be better off with him. Why not? He is clearly a uniquely skilled player.
Similarly, I also think that the Jets would be better with Barkley as their running back over Crowell and Powell.
There are countless examples of good players who get drafted into bad situations/schemes who don’t pan out in the league.
I have a good imagination, and I can imagine a world we don't live in where Mahomes is average.
I have a good imagination, and I can imagine a world we don't live in where Mahomes is average.
I must not then, bc I can’t foresee many positive outcomes with McAdoo calling plays for Mahomes and Reese building the team around him.
The exact thought I was having as I scrolled through this on the commute.
Kind of hard to call it 'peak BBI' when there are literally 2 posters doing it, and many more refuting them.
That's like taking something Stan posts and writing 'typical BBI'.
Here at BBI, we can only dissect and rip Eli and no other QB.
This is true. It’s not really about Eli anymore. Everyone knows he is done. The odd part is how other posters need to bring Eli into the conversation. The best is ....”well Eli could never make that play. Well Eli can’t make that throw.”
The same people who bash Eli and have for years get really defensive when you point out other QB flaws. It’s just really odd.