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What is the current NFL equivalent of Kerry Collins?

CMicks3110 : 10/14/2018 10:34 pm
If we didn't go QB in round 1, let's say we wanted to really beef up the o-line with our first several picks next year. We could still have a super bowl type team with a Collins type QB. Barkley could take over games with an '08 type o-line. Think 2002 offense, only Beckham is better than prime toomer, and barkley is better than prime tiki. Shockey was probably a bit better than Engram and Hillard is probably better than shepard.
I saw the question  
ray in arlington : 10/14/2018 10:44 pm : link
and thought of Joe Flacco.

(Doesn't mean I want Joe Flacco here).
YEAH  
CMicks3110 : 10/14/2018 10:47 pm : link
That's a good comparison actually. If we wanted to just not go the full QB rebuild, I wonder if we'd consider a route like that. Collins was not half bad - and if we didn't go QB 1, we could build a pretty good 5-year offensive juggernaut if we stock the O-Line. Something to consider. Or maybe Lauletta turns into Drew Brees. Who knows.
big guys with #5  
ray in arlington : 10/14/2018 10:57 pm : link
would have to be Joe Flacco or Davis Webb :)
If Gruden does not want  
GmeninPSL : 10/14/2018 11:40 pm : link
Derek Carr, I'd take him and build around him in a heartbeat!!
Getting a qb in the draft to play behind this oline would be a  
SterlingArcher : 10/14/2018 11:41 pm : link
disaster, he would be labeled a bust after 3 or 4 games.
Equivalent To Kerry Collins, OK, Here Goes  
Trainmaster : 10/14/2018 11:50 pm : link
I think the Giants' next starting QB is already in the league  
81_Great_Dane : 10/15/2018 12:25 am : link
and could very well be a Kerry Collins-style reclamation project. However the list of people who that could be is kind of short and not super exciting. Who am I forgetting?

Derek Carr - Yeah, Chucky may choose to part ways with him and get his own guy.

Joe Flacco - If they decide to go with Jackson.

The guys on the Jets whose last names don't start with Darn...

The guys on the Browns whose last names don't start with May...

Sam Bradford

Teddy Bridgewater

Ryan Tannehill

Ryan Fitzpatrick

Blake Bortles

Extreme option: Colin Kapaernick. (Who really wasn't that good, hasn't played in a long time, and comes with a ton of controversy.)

I'd much rather seem them trade for a great young prospect (like the Packers did to get Brett Favre) but I don't know who that would be.


big immobile guys with a big arm  
Allen in CNJ : 10/15/2018 4:58 am : link
Sam Bradford comes to mind
RE: If Gruden does not want  
Toth029 : 10/15/2018 6:18 am : link
In comment 14128834 GmeninPSL said:
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Derek Carr, I'd take him and build around him in a heartbeat!!

He is checking down almost every play.

Isn't that what people whined about with Eli?
RE: Equivalent To Kerry Collins, OK, Here Goes  
SHO'NUFF : 10/15/2018 6:35 am : link
In comment 14128854 Trainmaster said:
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Johnny Manziel?
Tim Tebow!  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 10/15/2018 6:42 am : link
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Bridgwater Is intriguing  
Jesse B : 10/15/2018 7:04 am : link
To me. He had that gruesome injury but is still young and is the talent still there?

Flacco was a good answer most like collins
RE: big immobile guys with a big arm  
GeofromNJ : 10/15/2018 7:48 am : link
In comment 14128894 Allen in CNJ said:
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Sam Bradford comes to mind

Davis Webb comes to mind. He can be had by simply claiming him off the Jets practice squad - which I think the Giants should've have done the day the Jets claimed him. What in the world are the Giants doing with Tanney?
Hell no  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/15/2018 9:10 am : link
To Fllacco. We don't need another square peg unabrow immobile qb with our coach and personnel.
RE: RE: Equivalent To Kerry Collins, OK, Here Goes  
81_Great_Dane : 10/15/2018 9:51 am : link
In comment 14128914 SHO'NUFF said:
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In comment 14128854 Trainmaster said:


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Johnny Manziel?
Biggest reclamation project out there. The problem is: He was never any good. So what is there to reclaim?
Winston  
Dankbeerman : 10/15/2018 9:52 am : link
could be very similar in all ways besides playing stile. Want to see what tampa does with him
RE: I saw the question  
Alex_Webster : 10/15/2018 9:57 am : link
In comment 14128692 ray in arlington said:
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and thought of Joe Flacco.

(Doesn't mean I want Joe Flacco here).


So did I, then I thought.....Am I right are they even the same? but I guess the perception is the same. I think Collins was better, but bigger head case.
RE: RE: big immobile guys with a big arm  
FStubbs : 10/15/2018 10:26 am : link
In comment 14128965 GeofromNJ said:
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In comment 14128894 Allen in CNJ said:


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Sam Bradford comes to mind


Davis Webb comes to mind. He can be had by simply claiming him off the Jets practice squad - which I think the Giants should've have done the day the Jets claimed him. What in the world are the Giants doing with Tanney?


Webb's cutting still feels political to me. "Have to get rid of McAdoo's project". Tanney's useless on this team. Webb at least had upside.
I thought of Flacco first also. Carr may be the best option if  
Ivan15 : 10/15/2018 10:55 am : link
He becomes available. If Gruden doesn’t get something for him in a trade, he is an idiot.
Where is our  
CromartiesKid21 : 10/15/2018 2:13 pm : link
Jesse Armstead, Strahan etc coming from if all its going to take is a Kerry Collins level QB to make the Super Bowl?
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