Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner
 

Archived Thread

Did anyone see Todd Gurley yesterday run for 200+ yards...

M.S. : 10/15/2018 7:27 am
...on 28 carries?

I watched each and every one. Here are my observations:

(1) Obviously he is a great running back;

(2) Plays with vision, balance, power, speed and determination;

(3) On several runs, no one on Denver laid a hand on him in the backfield;

(4) Translation: Todd Gurley was up to full power mode by the time he was 1 yard past the LOS;

(5) IMO, had Saquon Barkley been given the exact same 28 opportunities behind the Rams front line, the one-game NFL rushing record of 296 yards would have been shattered.


Stan didnt  
UConn4523 : 10/15/2018 7:31 am : link
.
We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
dep026 : 10/15/2018 7:45 am : link
Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.
RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/15/2018 7:50 am : link
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:
Quote:
Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.


I think we really need a pinned "Vent about Jerry Reese" thread for like the next 6 months. Engram over Ramczyk, Flowers, David Wilson. Like a punching bag thread.
RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
giants#1 : 10/15/2018 7:52 am : link
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:
Quote:
Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.


Or they had concerns about him maintaining his level of play and staying healthy at 36+. They just had a slew of OL whose bodies started breaking down well before that (Snee, Diehl, etc.) and were likely gun shy because of it.
RE: RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
dep026 : 10/15/2018 7:53 am : link
In comment 14128969 giants#1 said:
Quote:
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:


Quote:


Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.



Or they had concerns about him maintaining his level of play and staying healthy at 36+. They just had a slew of OL whose bodies started breaking down well before that (Snee, Diehl, etc.) and were likely gun shy because of it.


There were heavy concerns that flowers sucked balls. Reese didnít want to see it.
RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
BlueHurricane : 10/15/2018 7:54 am : link
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:
Quote:
Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.


He would have come here and immediately started to suck. We are a black hole that sucks all the ability out of offensive line players.
Seems like the OP used a lot of words to say our O-Line sucks  
GiantGolfer : 10/15/2018 8:04 am : link
and Barkley is better than Gurley.
Also saw Melvin Gordon  
jeff57 : 10/15/2018 8:13 am : link
rush for over 100 and 3 TDs. Reese passed on both to take Flowers.
RE: RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
Mdgiantsfan : 10/15/2018 8:14 am : link
In comment 14128967 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
Quote:
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:


Quote:


Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.



I think we really need a pinned "Vent about Jerry Reese" thread for like the next 6 months. Engram over Ramczyk, Flowers, David Wilson. Like a punching bag thread.


Iím all for it if it would stop the excessive JR complaining in every other thread!

And while weíre at it letís add a Lombardi appreciation thread as well!
It is surprising Barkley hasnít run for 200 yards yet in a game  
Jimmy Googs : 10/15/2018 8:15 am : link
He sucks...
RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
M.S. : 10/15/2018 8:17 am : link
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:
Quote:
Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.


Andrew Whitworth played like an absolute stud yesterday. He makes all of the blocks in-line, downfield, you name it.
RE: RE: RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
giants#1 : 10/15/2018 8:29 am : link
In comment 14128970 dep026 said:
Quote:
In comment 14128969 giants#1 said:


Quote:


In comment 14128961 dep026 said:


Quote:


Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.



Or they had concerns about him maintaining his level of play and staying healthy at 36+. They just had a slew of OL whose bodies started breaking down well before that (Snee, Diehl, etc.) and were likely gun shy because of it.



There were heavy concerns that flowers sucked balls. Reese didnít want to see it.


Those 2 things aren't mutually exclusive.
RE: RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
UConn4523 : 10/15/2018 8:40 am : link
In comment 14128974 BlueHurricane said:
Quote:
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:


Quote:


Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.



He would have come here and immediately started to suck. We are a black hole that sucks all the ability out of offensive line players.


Thatís kind of how I see it as well. Lots of bad decisions, lots of rotten luck. Whitqorth is a guy I understand not making a play for, his age was a legit concern, not sure why people donít understand that.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/15/2018 8:55 am : link
I have little doubt, barring injury, that Saquon is going to shatter the single-game record.
RE: Seems like the OP used a lot of words to say our O-Line sucks  
M.S. : 10/15/2018 9:00 am : link
In comment 14128983 GiantGolfer said:
Quote:
and Barkley is better than Gurley.


I'm definitely guilty as charged for over-talking on this web site. And, yes, Barkley vs Gurley, but I didn't want to just say it out of respect for Todd Gurley who is a wonderful RB.
Barkley is amazing  
arniefez : 10/15/2018 9:03 am : link
but unfortunel;atly RB's aren't difference makers. QB's OT's and DE's are difference makers.
If/when we get even an AVERAGE O-line  
Couchy : 10/15/2018 9:10 am : link
Saquon is going to set all sorts of records. Iím still tuning in to games with a smile on my face knowing that Saquon is going to do Ďsomethingí and itís going to spectacular. He hasnít disappointed yet.
RE: ...  
Dave in PA : 10/15/2018 9:21 am : link
In comment 14129049 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
I have little doubt, barring injury, that Saquon is going to shatter the single-game record.
Me too, itís like a foregone conclusion. Itís crazy how great he is already and heís gotten approximately zero support.
RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/15/2018 9:22 am : link
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:
Quote:
Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.


We didn't have enough money to get Whitworth and the guy is 36+ years old.
RE: Barkley is amazing  
Mr. Bungle : 10/15/2018 9:24 am : link
In comment 14129064 arniefez said:
Quote:
but unfortunel;atly RB's aren't difference makers. QB's OT's and DE's are difference makers.

Lol. Ok.
I also noticed on a bunch of runs  
NoPeanutz : 10/15/2018 9:25 am : link
that Gurley was not touched until he was already 8 yards or so past scrimmage.
RE: Barkley is amazing  
BigBlueinChicago : 10/15/2018 9:28 am : link
In comment 14129064 arniefez said:
Quote:
but unfortunel;atly RB's aren't difference makers. QB's OT's and DE's are difference makers.


And starting when this season is over with, the Giants will have none of the three.

The rebuilding will only truly be on track when those three pieces of the puzzle are filled.
RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
Boy Cord : 10/15/2018 9:48 am : link
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:
Quote:
Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.


Whitworth would have been a fraction of the cost of Solder. Maybe 60% to 75% of Solder at most.
Observation:  
81_Great_Dane : 10/15/2018 9:48 am : link
The Rams were terrible when Gurley came into the league. Now they're good. It didn't take long, and I doubt any Rams fans are unhappy they have him.
Barkley's averaging 5.2 yards/carry  
giants#1 : 10/15/2018 9:58 am : link
with this OL, which is good for 4th best in the NFL and he has more carries than the 3 guys above him. That's more than Elliott (5.01), Gurley (4.83), Kamara (4.82), etc.

That's behind an OL that was getting Barkley hit a pathetic 6 inches after he took the handoff thru 3(?) games.
Anyone who says the Gurley and Zeke are not difference makers  
PatersonPlank : 10/15/2018 10:12 am : link
are wrong. Barkley is right there with them, and I would take him over Zeke right now.
To be fair,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/15/2018 10:16 am : link
the immortal Isaiah Crowell almost ran for 9000 yards last week against Denver. They just plain suck on defense and I seriously doubt Vance Joseph will get a third season as HC.
RE: Observation:  
santacruzom : 10/15/2018 10:17 am : link
In comment 14129152 81_Great_Dane said:
Quote:
The Rams were terrible when Gurley came into the league. Now they're good. It didn't take long, and I doubt any Rams fans are unhappy they have him.


I hope we can emulate the Rams rise to power, but it appears they made a brilliant coaching hire. I doubt it's the kind of hire we'd ever see here.
Are these the same people  
since1925 : 10/15/2018 10:18 am : link
Who trashed Accorsi and gave Reese credit for everything?
RE: RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
WillVAB : 10/15/2018 10:26 am : link
In comment 14128967 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
Quote:
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:


Quote:


Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.



I think we really need a pinned "Vent about Jerry Reese" thread for like the next 6 months. Engram over Ramczyk, Flowers, David Wilson. Like a punching bag thread.


David Wilson over Cordy Glenn
Clint Sintim over Max Unger
Sterling Sheppard over Michael Thomas
RE: RE: Observation:  
giants#1 : 10/15/2018 10:28 am : link
In comment 14129209 santacruzom said:
Quote:
In comment 14129152 81_Great_Dane said:


Quote:


The Rams were terrible when Gurley came into the league. Now they're good. It didn't take long, and I doubt any Rams fans are unhappy they have him.



I hope we can emulate the Rams rise to power, but it appears they made a brilliant coaching hire. I doubt it's the kind of hire we'd ever see here.


They were quite talented too after years of sucking. And Jeff Fisher was a shitty, massively overrated coach.

I like McVay, but let's not underestimate the talent on the team he took over plus the talent they brought in with all the cap space. He inherited a team with:

Goff
Gurley
Donald
Saffold
Quinn
Zuerlein
Hekker
Havenstein
Brockers
Barron
Joyner

And then they acquired these players before his first full season:
Whitworth
Sullivan
Kupp

And then still had the cap space to add Cooks/Peters/Suh this year (and Talib, but he's on IR).

Don't get me wrong, McVay looks like the next great coach, but that team is loaded in talent.
RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
Rflairr : 10/15/2018 10:51 am : link
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:
Quote:
Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.


No. Mara didnít want to pay whitworth after paying Jenkins, JPP, and Vernon. But keep blaming Jerry
RE: RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
crick n NC : 10/15/2018 10:55 am : link
In comment 14129294 Rflairr said:
Quote:
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:


Quote:


Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.



No. Mara didnít want to pay whitworth after paying Jenkins, JPP, and Vernon. But keep blaming Jerry


Keep blaming everyone but Jerry
RE: RE: Barkley is amazing  
UConn4523 : 10/15/2018 10:56 am : link
In comment 14129100 Mr. Bungle said:
Quote:
In comment 14129064 arniefez said:


Quote:


but unfortunel;atly RB's aren't difference makers. QB's OT's and DE's are difference makers.


Lol. Ok.


Haha. Yeah, Gurley doesnít make a difference. Just plug in Zac Stacy, theyíd be just fine.
RE: I also noticed on a bunch of runs  
Stan in LA : 10/15/2018 11:55 am : link
In comment 14129104 NoPeanutz said:
Quote:
that Gurley was not touched until he was already 8 yards or so past scrimmage.

Correct. And in 2016 when the Ram OL was garbage Gurley sucked. Barkley >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gurley.
RE: RE: RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
HomerJones45 : 10/15/2018 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14129312 crick n NC said:
Quote:
In comment 14129294 Rflairr said:


Quote:


In comment 14128961 dep026 said:


Quote:


Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.



No. Mara didnít want to pay whitworth after paying Jenkins, JPP, and Vernon. But keep blaming Jerry



Keep blaming everyone but Jerry
It's incredible. In his thankfully last draft, when our running backs were going to be Perkins and Darkwa, both Kamara and Kareem Hunt went in the 3rd round. Who did we take? Davis Webb. What would the future of this team look like if Kamara or Hunt was the rb going into this last draft and we took a shot at Rosen or Darnold or Allen? What if the season before, Reese moved up a couple of spots to take Mahomes so there was a transition to the future instead of sitting there and taking Eli Apple so we would be going into next season with Mahomes and Barkley?

Jerry couldn't be gone soon enough.
RE: RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
Bill L : 10/15/2018 2:56 pm : link
In comment 14129294 Rflairr said:
Quote:
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:


Quote:


Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.



No. Mara didnít want to pay whitworth after paying Jenkins, JPP, and Vernon. But keep blaming Jerry


Where did Mara state that he didn't want to pay Whitworth and where did he state that he put the brakes on Reese?
RE: RE: We didnít want to pay Whitworth  
WillVAB : 10/16/2018 12:34 am : link
In comment 14129294 Rflairr said:
Quote:
In comment 14128961 dep026 said:


Quote:


Because we believed in Ereck Flowers.

Thanks Jerry.



No. Mara didnít want to pay whitworth after paying Jenkins, JPP, and Vernon. But keep blaming Jerry


Bullshit. At Reeseís bumbling conference at the midway point that season he specifically said he didnít go after Whitworth bc they ďwanted to get younger along the OL.Ē

Had absolutely nothing to do with money.
He's a great player  
Phil in LA : 10/16/2018 12:43 am : link
but there were a few runs where I was thinking, "Saquon would have taken that one to the house."
RE: RE: I also noticed on a bunch of runs  
Canton : 10/16/2018 1:10 am : link
In comment 14129514 Stan in LA said:
Quote:
In comment 14129104 NoPeanutz said:


Quote:


that Gurley was not touched until he was already 8 yards or so past scrimmage.


Correct. And in 2016 when the Ram OL was garbage Gurley sucked. Barkley >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gurley.


Stan still looking for another angle to dis Barkley and he gets trashed yet again.

Bwahaaaaaaa 😂
Back to the Corner