ESPN's Hasselbeck: Giants should trade Eli to the Jags

But the Jags are better off with Bortles.

If I'm the Jags though, I wouldn't touch Eli Manning.

any trade value.

I would much rather see Eli go out somewhere else that is competitive then watch him drown in this terrible situation.

We aren't the best fit for Eli, and we aren't going to be until possibly next season.

I dont know why people keep thinking he is good enough to win.

would be a good move.

to be diagnosed with a shoulder issue and out for a long period of time then perhaps Miami would be interested. The other long shot possibility would be Denver.

BUT, ELI can say no to a trade so kind of pointless.

Has there been an in season trade of QB that would start for at least one team in the transaction?

Add in the fact that the Jags are in contention, not floundering like the 49ers that would make a mid season change more risky.

It seems really far fetched even if Eli was still playing at a high level.

Eli has a no trade clause, no?

Eli is terribler. Miami won't want anything to do with Eli either, especially after Osweiller threw for 300 yards and a few TD's in a nice win yesterday.

The only team I can see having any interest is Jax and it's only because of TC's relationship with Eli.

It's just a matter of time before someone else is playing qb....either starting or closing out blown games...

If that happens, then a big decision has to be made next March, regarding Eli....

who still loves Eli, I'd love to see this happen.

I doubt it will though.

In comment 14129414 Capt. Don said:

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Eli has a no trade clause, no?

Yes, but Hasslebeck is probably assuming he's waive it for a chance to reunite with Coughlinn and a competitive team.

it's asking a lot to bring a new QB in to the offense mid-season, even one with Eli's work ethic.

Makes sense on the surface, but it's still a reach

In comment 14129414 Capt. Don said:

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Eli has a no trade clause, no?

I think I remember hearing he has one..plus also eli stating he wants to finish his career as a giant as well

I think Eli is toast, I'd love nothing more than for him to go to the Jags and win another Super Bowl to close out his career.

They guy isn't what he was, and we do need to start moving on, but he's still a mid range QB (in stats and other measurables). He is a step up from Bortles, who has ow shown he'll never be more than he is. For a team that can win now, provide Eli protection, and needs a smart QB who can really manage an offense based on a strong running attack, Eli would be perfect.

But our ownership probably wouldn't.

Eli's no trade clause

If he doesn't WANT to leave NY, so.... yea.

don't think Eli has any trade value. Denver apparently expressed at least some interest in the offseason, but the Giants decided that Eli had three or four more good years, which is looking like a big mistake.

not sure about Mara ...

In comment 14129446 AcidTest said:

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don't think Eli has any trade value. Denver apparently expressed at least some interest in the offseason, but the Giants decided that Eli had three or four more good years, which is looking like a big mistake.

At this point I'm not concerned about receiving back much if any trade value.

In comment 14129431 PatersonPlank said:

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They guy isn't what he was, and we do need to start moving on, but he's still a mid range QB (in stats and other measurables). He is a step up from Bortles, who has ow shown he'll never be more than he is. For a team that can win now, provide Eli protection, and needs a smart QB who can really manage an offense based on a strong running attack, Eli would be perfect.

He is not a step up from Bortles. Even over the last couple of seasons, Bortles has been better from a numbers and efficiency standpoint. And he is not a mid-range QB. He's a bottom tier QB. He is what he is at this point. Mid-range QBs right now you are talking about Derek Carr, Dak Prescott, Andy Dalton on the higher side. Nobody would consider for a heart beat swapping Eli for any of those guys.

They already have Bortles

is one of the worst starters in the NFL, IMO. If he was mediocre, our offense wouldn't be one of the worst in the league with one of the best WR's and RB's in the game.

how would they handle that. I don't see them trading anybody.

In comment 14129446 AcidTest said:

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don't think Eli has any trade value. Denver apparently expressed at least some interest in the offseason, but the Giants decided that Eli had three or four more good years, which is looking like a big mistake.

You know, the only team that might make sense for Eli would be Tennessee. They have a good OL when healthy, a power running back if they ever used him, a good defense, and a good boundary, big target receiver. Mariota would probably need to get injured, and they have Blaine Gabbert as a back up, but that would be a good situation for Eli if there is one. They would live and die with Mariota before trading for Eli however, but I think it's becoming increasingly clear in Nashville that you cannot trust Mariota to be your franchise QB long-term, so it makes sense for them to simply move on at some point.

He has the chops to play well on the road in the playoffs and that’s what JAX needs to get over the hump.

anyone thinks this would ever happen.

The reason is because he deserves better than this. I don't care if the condition is even likely to be reached. It's sad to see the hatred spewed towards Eli. I keep seeing people claim he was never good and that the 2011 team won the SB because the team was great not Eli. Revisionist history at it's finest.

In comment 14129479 WillVAB said:

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He has the chops to play well on the road in the playoffs and that’s what JAX needs to get over the hump.

they Beat Pit in Pit last year

If we trade or bench Eli, who the hell is playing QB for us? Alex Tanney? give me a break, this guy a journeyman nobody. Theres no way lauletta is ready to play this year. As bad as Eli has been playing, we have zero options behind him this year

In comment 14129500 Br00klyn said:

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If we trade or bench Eli, who the hell is playing QB for us? Alex Tanney? give me a break, this guy a journeyman nobody. Theres no way lauletta is ready to play this year. As bad as Eli has been playing, we have zero options behind him this year

Tanney would get a start or two and then Lauletta would get the bulk of the starts. This would also ensure that the Giants end up with the #1 pick.

Flowers and Eli. A match made in Heaven.

In comment 14129479 WillVAB said:

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He has the chops to play well on the road in the playoffs and that’s what JAX needs to get over the hump.

Eli is done.

In comment 14129500 Br00klyn said:

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If we trade or bench Eli, who the hell is playing QB for us? Alex Tanney? give me a break, this guy a journeyman nobody. Theres no way lauletta is ready to play this year. As bad as Eli has been playing, we have zero options behind him this year

Let’s be honest. What difference will it make at this point?pull the bandaid off slowly, or get it over with and move forward?

Eli would not be fine. You guys do realize that Erik Flowers would be his starting LT right? They've had some injury issues up front and that line has struggled recently. They're better off with Bortles, he's better version of bad for them over the remainder of the season.

In comment 14129506 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 14129500 Br00klyn said: Quote: If we trade or bench Eli, who the hell is playing QB for us? Alex Tanney? give me a break, this guy a journeyman nobody. Theres no way lauletta is ready to play this year. As bad as Eli has been playing, we have zero options behind him this year Tanney would get a start or two and then Lauletta would get the bulk of the starts. This would also ensure that the Giants end up with the #1 pick.

Absolutely pathetic that these are the options. how a team does not have a decent backup for an old, diminished QB is mind boggling

Fantasy talk. Not happening.

This isn't fantasy football folks. Or Madden. Why in the hell would the Jags do that? You could trade Tom Brady over there you can't have a QB learn the playbook on the fly and expect to compete for a championship. They have to roll with what they have.

Coughlin knows Eli as much as anyone. People would think that it is a no brainer but is it really? Do the Jags want to take on Eli's salary? What happens with Bortles then? You are basically telling him he is DONE and how long can the Jags put up with Eli too?

If I am Coughlin and I am truly serious about improving the QB situation after this season, then I am looking for a long term solution.

In comment 14129443 GiantsRage2007 said:

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Eli's no trade clause If he doesn't WANT to leave NY, so.... yea.

See how fast he would bless a trade if he is benched..But if Lauletta is not ready then might has well let Eli play out the year and pump up his QB stats..

Trade deadline is October 30th.
Both the Giants and Jaguars have a bye Week 9.
Both teams play their last game prior to the bye on October 28th.
A lot of things would have to happen for a trade, but the stars are starting to allign.

and EricJ.

+1.

We appreciate your concern for Eli

But I think he should stick around a little longer and try to work things out with Beckham.I'm sure that's what Beckham wants too,since he's all about winning

is they lost their LT and their RB--- and that is why bortles has been awful.
would they trade or take on that cost for a non sure thing that requires a lot of good things to happen around him as well--- to be successful at this stage.
seems unlikely
would love it to happen - give us all a team to root for the 2nd half and get to see the giants do a real committed rebuild

.....but most importantly, does it make sense for the Jags???

Tough to pickup a QB midyear and have him start.

When's the last time that actually happened??????

Was it maybe Carson Palmer who was sitting out in Cincy and went to Oakland mid year?

Who the hell was Case Keenum last year? Never heard of him.

But I'm in the Lauletta camp. It didn't look too big for him in the preseason and he protected the ball well. Showed some mobility in and out of the pocket.

Find out what you've got.

In comment 14129447 JonC said:

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not sure about Mara ...

I agree. I think this is the issue. And I believe Eli would OK the trade too.

Eli may not be an upgrade, certainly not enough of an upgrade to overcome the upheaval, learning curve on the offense, etc.

for Norwell.

He may encourage Eli to retire at the end of this season, but Eli doesn't want to? We may see him playing next year.

And I don't think Eli makes sense for the Jaguars. Their team is built to compete for the next few years. Why would you trade for a declining, one-year fix at QB? If they don't believe Bortles can get them there, they should be looking for younger, longer-term fixes.

In comment 14129483 cjac said:

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anyone thinks this would ever happen.

I used to think that way until Gretzky was traded....

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In comment 14129479 WillVAB said: Quote: He has the chops to play well on the road in the playoffs and that’s what JAX needs to get over the hump. they Beat Pit in Pit last year

And Bortles wasn’t the reason they lost to NE...

Okay maybe he is...

In comment 14129500 Br00klyn said:

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If we trade or bench Eli, who the hell is playing QB for us? Alex Tanney? give me a break, this guy a journeyman nobody. Theres no way lauletta is ready to play this year. As bad as Eli has been playing, we have zero options behind him this year

Lauletta. He's mobile, young, and smart. Time to see what we've got under live fire. I don't care if he's from 1-AA Richmond and that he has no experience. Let Shurmur and his coaches figure out a package/game plan to try and optimize he skill set. That's what they are paid to do.

And what the big deal? Right now the odds are overwhelmingly suggesting this year is finito. So let's use the rest of the season to (a) evaluate what we have in Lauletta and (b) "improve" our chances of getting a higher draft slot.

In comment 14129562 hitdog42 said:

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is they lost their LT and their RB--- and that is why bortles has been awful. would they trade or take on that cost for a non sure thing that requires a lot of good things to happen around him as well--- to be successful at this stage. seems unlikely would love it to happen - give us all a team to root for the 2nd half and get to see the giants do a real committed rebuild

+1. Bortles did quite a bit of running for his life yesterday. Maybe that Jags OL isn't as good as we once thought.

I would love for it to happen if it meant Eli would do well. The last thing I'd want to see happen is for Eli to leave and for him to flounder elsewhere.

Personally, I think he's done, and his presence here does us no good. But I'd rather he go out with at least plausible deniability ('if only the Giants weren't terrible, maybe Eli would be doing well') than for him to go elsewhere and be just as bad.

Jags want to do this?

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lol. Good luck making that work.

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do you think he'd want to get behind a line that has Ereck Flowers on it again?!

. Takes two to Tango

has no trade value. No team in the league would make him a starter now. Has anyone been watching? His recent resume is on tape and it is brutal. Waste of time to think he will be traded.

In comment 14129793 rocco8112 said:

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has no trade value. No team in the league would make him a starter now. Has anyone been watching? His recent resume is on tape and it is brutal. Waste of time to think he will be traded.

Waste of time to think that he is tradable. No team is trading for him.

is there. Bortles sucks, but he isn't the only problem. None of that receiving corps is worth a damn and the line has been disappointing. Even ignoring the fact that it's too late in the year for Eli to come in, learn the playbook, and contribute I don't see him faring any better there.

not to mention drafting the best RB in the draft and the only key player still on the offense is Eli and guess what the Offense still sucks and IMO it will stay that way until someone finally pulls the obvious plug on Eli....

In comment 14129467 Tom from LI said:

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how would they handle that. I don't see them trading anybody.

the only thing I can think of is to just keep Eli around to help develop the new QB we draft.

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not sure about Mara ...

I think Mara would jump at it. Gets rid of a big problem and he gets kudos for doing right by Eli.

He might get some flak for being two faced. But everyone lies today and just waits for the news cycle to move on

Would love to stick it to the giants by winning with Eli playing for jacksonville.

In comment 14130174 Simms said:

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Would love to stick it to the giants by winning with Eli playing for jacksonville.

But that's not something that would happen in any reality. So Eli won't end up in Jacksonville.

why not bring him back? He knows the system and at least he can do what ELI cannot do and that is ... run for his life with our OL!

lets give him some credit for knowing how to judge talent in this league. He knows Eli is essentially done as a starter. He could be a great mentor for a rookie and maybe even a really good QB coach soon.

Tom looks at some of the young rookie QBs in the league and that is what he wants for the Jags.

In comment 14130241 Houston said:

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why not bring him back? He knows the system and at least he can do what ELI cannot do and that is ... run for his life with our OL!

Why would we do that when we have Lauletta? He can at the very least make the throws Eli has been making.

They have a killer D, a decent O line and Keenum is terrible.

I could see them signing Eli if the Giants cut him.

we can take the cap hit of trading Eli this year and I also don't think the Jaguars are interested in Eli. With that said, I would not mind seeing a 3 way trade where we send Eli to the Jaguars, they send the pick to Minny, we also send Tanney and a pick to Minny and we get their backup Sloter.

In comment 14129623 Mike from Ohio said:

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He may encourage Eli to retire at the end of this season, but Eli doesn't want to? We may see him playing next year. And I don't think Eli makes sense for the Jaguars. Their team is built to compete for the next few years. Why would you trade for a declining, one-year fix at QB? If they don't believe Bortles can get them there, they should be looking for younger, longer-term fixes.

Or likely into another contract maybe