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Should Vontae Burfict be banned?

dep026 : 10/15/2018 5:07 pm
I don’t have a gif to show it. But the elbow to Brown is just another example of him purposely trying to hurt someone. This is almost every game, every year. I am sorry, but this guy just will never get it and he can permanently hurt someone with how he plays.
He was a piece of shit in college  
Hammer : 10/15/2018 5:40 pm : link
and he's lived up to his reputation in the pros.

I would be happy if he got thrown out on his ass.

And, for the record, I was thrilled when Schuster laid his ass out.
I wouldn't object to it  
Diver_Down : 10/15/2018 5:53 pm : link
based on his body of work.
Link to the Hit - ( New Window )
To show you how much the game has changed  
dpinzow : 10/15/2018 5:55 pm : link
Guys like Brian Dawkins and to a lesser extent Shaun Williams were lauded for throwing high hits that were close to Burfict’s level of nastiness in the late 90’s/early 2000s. Steve Atwater before that
That's what - his third or fourth  
B in ALB : 10/15/2018 6:19 pm : link
time he's hit someone with absolute intent to injure?

Time for a six-eight game suspension.
Such a dirty POS scumbag  
BigBlue4You09 : 10/15/2018 6:31 pm : link
Hope someone takes out his knees one day
Burfict  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/15/2018 7:15 pm : link
is probably the dirtiest player I've ever seen in terms of how often he pulls something trying to injury another player. It's despicable and intentional and he should be kicked out the league.
him trying to injury  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/15/2018 7:15 pm : link
the ankle of either Greg Olson or Cam Newton was as obvious as it gets.
This thread didn't get as much traction as it should.  
Diver_Down : 10/17/2018 3:49 pm : link
Here is a video of Burfict's infractions over the years. At some point, the NFL needs to ban this guy for life.
Burfict is bad for the game. - ( New Window )
He's the Manny Machado of football  
Bill L : 10/17/2018 3:51 pm : link
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Based on his body  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2018 3:52 pm : link
of work, something should be done.

Not sure banning is the right thing, but I'm not sure what is, he's a repeat offender so I think you have to assume intent and it's almost always head shots.

RE: Based on his body  
Diver_Down : 10/17/2018 4:37 pm : link
In comment 14133163 pjcas18 said:
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of work, something should be done.

Not sure banning is the right thing, but I'm not sure what is, he's a repeat offender so I think you have to assume intent and it's almost always head shots.


If it was an incident here and there, you can dismiss the behavior as part of the nature of the game and being overly aggressive. But the video that I linked clearly demonstrates an intent as a large percentage are after a player is being tackled by a teammate, the twisting of ankles after the tackle is made, the head-hunting, etc.

At this point, a clear message should be sent. Despite being fined and suspended, he just hasn't corrected his play.
RE: RE: Based on his body  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14133220 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 14133163 pjcas18 said:


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of work, something should be done.

Not sure banning is the right thing, but I'm not sure what is, he's a repeat offender so I think you have to assume intent and it's almost always head shots.




If it was an incident here and there, you can dismiss the behavior as part of the nature of the game and being overly aggressive. But the video that I linked clearly demonstrates an intent as a large percentage are after a player is being tackled by a teammate, the twisting of ankles after the tackle is made, the head-hunting, etc.

At this point, a clear message should be sent. Despite being fined and suspended, he just hasn't corrected his play.


I agree. My only hang up is the league usually tries to support discipline decisions with the NFLPA/NFL agreed upon personal conduct policy, I'm not sure they have a "banned" designation for wrongdoing.

My only question is what they do with him. He's been fined and suspended multiple times. Longer suspension?
Without looking up the suspension schedule  
Diver_Down : 10/17/2018 5:41 pm : link
under the personal conduct policy, I believe further suspensions increase in duration (1 game, 4 game, 8 game, season long, etc.) With his repeated violations and the league placing an emphasis on player safety, it seems it would be an easy decision.
yes, i would ban him  
markky : 10/17/2018 9:13 pm : link
he blatantly ignores the rules and tries to take people out.
RE: He's the Manny Machado of football  
speedywheels : 10/18/2018 12:30 am : link
In comment 14133160 Bill L said:
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Not even close. But OK!
RE: RE: He's the Manny Machado of football  
Bill L : 10/18/2018 9:00 am : link
In comment 14133677 speedywheels said:
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Not even close. But OK!
True.

Burfict needs to try harder.
They didn't ban Rodney Harrison or Romanowski  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/18/2018 9:41 am : link
Burfict will be nickel and dimed game checks until somebody takes him out.
RE: They didn't ban Rodney Harrison or Romanowski  
Diver_Down : 10/18/2018 9:49 am : link
In comment 14133921 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Burfict will be nickel and dimed game checks until somebody takes him out.


I don't remember Rodney being so flagrant. Did he take shots on receivers across the middle? Of course. But I don't recall him twisting ankles, taking head shots after the player is already being tackled by another teammate, etc. Romanowski is a different era. No one will defend Romanowski's play. But in the context of the current era focusing on player safety and in particular protecting against egregious head shots, how Burfict is allowed to play is indefensible on the part of the league.
Not saying this guy isn't a POS  
MadPlaid : 10/18/2018 10:04 am : link
but that linked video of his hit shows him making contact with Brown's shoulder first, before his forearm makes contact with Brown's helmet. Hard to tell if his intention was to go for the head there. Perhaps in real time, it shows clearer intent.
RE: Not saying this guy isn't a POS  
Diver_Down : 10/18/2018 10:12 am : link
In comment 14133964 MadPlaid said:
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but that linked video of his hit shows him making contact with Brown's shoulder first, before his forearm makes contact with Brown's helmet. Hard to tell if his intention was to go for the head there. Perhaps in real time, it shows clearer intent.


What about the other video of a compilation of his "work"? At some point, the league needs to say enough is enough.
RE: RE: They didn't ban Rodney Harrison or Romanowski  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/18/2018 10:13 am : link
In comment 14133936 Diver_Down said:
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Burfict will be nickel and dimed game checks until somebody takes him out.



I don't remember Rodney being so flagrant. Did he take shots on receivers across the middle? Of course. But I don't recall him twisting ankles, taking head shots after the player is already being tackled by another teammate, etc. Romanowski is a different era. No one will defend Romanowski's play. But in the context of the current era focusing on player safety and in particular protecting against egregious head shots, how Burfict is allowed to play is indefensible on the part of the league.


Early Harrison on the Chargers was considered a headhunter and received 15-yard penalties for hits that were more clean than dirty just based on his reputation. Difference is Harrison proved to be a top-level player while Burfict is a POS.
DD  
MadPlaid : 10/18/2018 10:15 am : link
I agree with you. Burfict doesn't get the benefit of the doubt because of his well documented history of dirty play. I'm just saying that this particular video doesn't exactly show him going for the head specifically.
I was always under the impression, when I played defense,  
Bergen346 : 10/18/2018 10:26 am : link
That you wanted to hit the opposing team as hard as you can. Impose your will on them, “punch them in the mouth” so to speak. That elbow doesn’t really look that bad, but he has done much dirtier things in the past. I would never intentionally try to hurt someone, and if someone does they should be penalized/suspended/banned, but it seems like every single hit these days is being scrutinized. It’s football, it’s violent and he’s a linebacker.... they are supposed to be the hardest hitters on the field.
Plaid,  
YAJ2112 : 10/18/2018 10:43 am : link
Burfict clearly lowers his body and throws his forearm at Brown's head as he's already going down and in the grasp of 2 defenders. For what purpose? Brown is already going down, so it wasn't any sort of tackling attempt. It was clearly an attempt to send a message with a head shot. 0 place for that kind of thing in today's game.
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