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DJ Fluker - Sigh

skifaster : 10/15/2018 6:28 pm
Seattle loves him:
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He would have been  
Pete in MD : 10/15/2018 6:39 pm : link
cheap too.
Imo, he wasn't part of the problem  
robbieballs2003 : 10/15/2018 6:43 pm : link
but also wasn't part of the solution either. He is doing what he does well which is run block. Good for him. I hope he does well. Seattle has run a ton lately. If I am not mistaken they have run more than they have passed the last 3 games or so. That is the formula this team needs to win which blows my mind why we don't attempt to do that after Gettleman's and Shurmur's press conferences. And, just for the record, I am not saying this is a winning formula. What I am saying is that this is the way that we will have the most success.
Dont fret  
XBRONX : 10/15/2018 6:44 pm : link
we have Omameh. One of DG's gems
I never understood letting him walk  
Bleedblue10 : 10/15/2018 6:45 pm : link
He is bad in pass pro(all of our guys are) but he was a beast in the run game and exactly what we need this year
He was the "hated one" around here ...  
Manny in CA : 10/15/2018 6:46 pm : link

He started off slowly then progressed steadily. When he talked about getting paid, for this year, they pushed him out-the-door.

I recall that he was a very good team-mate and was very helpful to Wheeler. Don't know if he was a Reese or Gettleman cut. Whoever did it, shame on them !
I know.  
mattlawson : 10/15/2018 6:48 pm : link
He made a pancake block the other day that baldy was raving about.
RE: He was the  
BigBlue4You09 : 10/15/2018 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14130214 Manny in CA said:
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He started off slowly then progressed steadily. When he talked about getting paid, for this year, they pushed him out-the-door.

I recall that he was a very good team-mate and was very helpful to Wheeler. Don't know if he was a Reese or Gettleman cut. Whoever did it, shame on them !


He wasn’t that hated at all around here. And he wasn’t cut, he was a free agent. And nobody was lining up to sign him...
We all don't know what went on behind the scenes.  
Diver_Down : 10/15/2018 6:52 pm : link
For a man of his measurables, you would think it would define a "Hog-Mollie". Yet, no effort was made to sign him. Has anyone followed his twitter where he sought treatment for his toe injury? It seemed awfully curious that a man of his size was placed on IR with a toe injury. At the time, I questioned if the move was made in an effort to pad the IR roster so that Ben/Reese could justify the season and save their jobs. We know that Richburg didn't need to be IR'd as he had stated that he was wanting to return but was placed on IR instead.
Well at least  
joeinpa : 10/15/2018 6:57 pm : link
Dottino had this one right
I didn't say he was cut ...  
Manny in CA : 10/15/2018 6:57 pm : link

And I do remember some whining about him, here.

He found himself here, but his previous failure history with the Chargers (after being a high draft pick) and his slow start here (and then his late season injury) was too much to overcome.

I saw him against Dallas, this year, he was manhandling anybody they put up against him. Man what Barkley could do with a brute like that blocking for him.
The mismanagement of assembling  
Cariboo : 10/15/2018 7:26 pm : link
an NFL caliber Oline over the past 7 seasons is criminal. But lets all keep bashing our 37 year old starting QB who has given his heart and sole to this franchise and brought us two Super Bowls. In a sport full of thugs,some happen to be teammates, Eli stays above the scum element and maintains his professionalism.

For all you ingrates here on BBI how about taking a snap behind this Oline. Chances are theyd be dragging your ass off the field crippled for life.
Cariboo...  
MarkT : 10/15/2018 7:30 pm : link
Agreed.
Best run blocker this team has had  
UberAlias : 10/15/2018 7:32 pm : link
Since McKenzie. Was stupid not to retain him.
RE: I didn't say he was cut ...  
BigBlue4You09 : 10/15/2018 7:54 pm : link
In comment 14130226 Manny in CA said:
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And I do remember some whining about him, here.

He found himself here, but his previous failure history with the Chargers (after being a high draft pick) and his slow start here (and then his late season injury) was too much to overcome.

I saw him against Dallas, this year, he was manhandling anybody they put up against him. Man what Barkley could do with a brute like that blocking for him.


This’s is what you said...”Don't know if he was a Reese or Gettleman CUT. Whoever did it, shame on them !”

Moot point moving on lol
Caribou  
joeinpa : 10/15/2018 7:56 pm : link
This thread was not about Eli.

But Keep in mind, the Eli bashing as you call it, is motivated by the same unreasonable emotion you show in defending him.

When fans take this stuff personally it brings out the worst in them.

Also it s possible to disagree with your assessment that Eli is not part of the problem without being an ingrate
RE: He was the  
Danny80 : 10/15/2018 8:20 pm : link
In comment 14130214 Manny in CA said:
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He started off slowly then progressed steadily. When he talked about getting paid, for this year, they pushed him out-the-door.

I recall that he was a very good team-mate and was very helpful to Wheeler. Don't know if he was a Reese or Gettleman cut. Whoever did it, shame on them !


Didn't they sign him to only a one-year deal last year? I never understood why they didn't keep him. He was clearly a talented run blocker and was getting better. That was one of my biggest free agency dislikes of the Gettleman era. There were quite a few. I liked the Alec Ogletree trade, but that might have been the only veteran offseason move I felt good about.
Yes, he only signed a 1 yr deal last year.  
Diver_Down : 10/15/2018 8:27 pm : link
And he only signed a 1 yr deal with Seattle. Perhaps, he was part of the culture change? We only see the play on the field and Baldy highlighting Fluker pancaking defenders. But perhaps, there are other reasons why he can only get 1 yr minimal contracts.
He was the exact opposite of Jerry.  
section125 : 10/15/2018 8:31 pm : link
He could run block and could not pass block. Now when you have a 37 year QB who is incapable of running for his life yet has to do so every game, it is not good to have a RG that cannot pass block.
Obviously, sadly, Omameh cannot do either.
RE: The mismanagement of assembling  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/15/2018 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14130246 Cariboo said:
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an NFL caliber Oline over the past 7 seasons is criminal. But lets all keep bashing our 37 year old starting QB who has given his heart and sole to this franchise and brought us two Super Bowls. In a sport full of thugs,some happen to be teammates, Eli stays above the scum element and maintains his professionalism.

For all you ingrates here on BBI how about taking a snap behind this Oline. Chances are theyd be dragging your ass off the field crippled for life.


+ 1. Reese Clint Sintim Over Max Unger. David Wilson Over Cordy Glenn
Evan Engram Over Cam Robinson or Ramzych, however you spell his name. Yeah. He spent licks on Pugh Richberg Beatty and Flowers. 4 guys in 11 years. And that’s what morons call investing.
RE: The mismanagement of assembling  
BigBlueShock : 10/15/2018 8:43 pm : link
In comment 14130246 Cariboo said:
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an NFL caliber Oline over the past 7 seasons is criminal. But lets all keep bashing our 37 year old starting QB who has given his heart and sole to this franchise and brought us two Super Bowls. In a sport full of thugs,some happen to be teammates, Eli stays above the scum element and maintains his professionalism.

For all you ingrates here on BBI how about taking a snap behind this Oline. Chances are theyd be dragging your ass off the field crippled for life.

I’m not sure what the purpose of this post is? Are you suggesting people should be happy with where Eli is at this point in his career? Are you suggesting that nobody should criticize Eli for his horrible play? Are you suggesting that Eli should remain the QB? Are you suggesting that nobody has blamed the OL for Eli’s deterioration? Are you suggesting that we should all be happy with the way things are going and shut up and just celebrate Eli each week because of what he’s done for us in the past?

By the way, what the flying f*ck does any of this have to do with the thread topic?
I thought he did ok here  
PatersonPlank : 10/15/2018 8:45 pm : link
I was surprised we didn't re-sign him
RE: I thought he did ok here  
BigBlueShock : 10/15/2018 8:49 pm : link
In comment 14130362 PatersonPlank said:
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I was surprised we didn't re-sign him

It’s why I cannot stand 1 year deals. In any sport really. There really is no upside. If the guy produces, he’s likely gone the following year. Either have conviction on a signing or don’t. If you’re worried about signing him to more than one season because you’re not convinced he can play, then don’t sign him. It’s that simple.
RE: He was the exact opposite of Jerry.  
Diver_Down : 10/15/2018 8:49 pm : link
In comment 14130343 section125 said:
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He could run block and could not pass block. Now when you have a 37 year QB who is incapable of running for his life yet has to do so every game, it is not good to have a RG that cannot pass block.
Obviously, sadly, Omameh cannot do either.


The problem with that analogy is the assumption that Jerry could pass block (exact opposite of Fluker). The reality is that Jerry couldn't do either well and when comparing Omameh with Jerry it is a push with the advantage going to Jerry based on the salary savings.

Hindsight is our advantage. DG took a shot at improving the OL based on the limited market and limited cap dollars. It looks like he missed on Omameh. The good thing is that it isn't a massive overspend (avg. $5M/yr with 2 years guaranteed). Hopefully, we upgrade the right side and can make progress on the improvement of the OL.
RE: RE: He was the exact opposite of Jerry.  
jcn56 : 10/15/2018 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14130367 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 14130343 section125 said:


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He could run block and could not pass block. Now when you have a 37 year QB who is incapable of running for his life yet has to do so every game, it is not good to have a RG that cannot pass block.
Obviously, sadly, Omameh cannot do either.



The problem with that analogy is the assumption that Jerry could pass block (exact opposite of Fluker). The reality is that Jerry couldn't do either well and when comparing Omameh with Jerry it is a push with the advantage going to Jerry based on the salary savings.

Hindsight is our advantage. DG took a shot at improving the OL based on the limited market and limited cap dollars. It looks like he missed on Omameh. The good thing is that it isn't a massive overspend (avg. $5M/yr with 2 years guaranteed). Hopefully, we upgrade the right side and can make progress on the improvement of the OL.


He missed on Omameh and he missed on Solder. Honestly, missed on FA entirely. Not a good sign.
We don't need help on the  
Jimmy Googs : 10/15/2018 8:56 pm : link
O-line...



RE: RE: RE: He was the exact opposite of Jerry.  
Diver_Down : 10/15/2018 9:00 pm : link
In comment 14130374 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14130367 Diver_Down said:


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In comment 14130343 section125 said:


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He could run block and could not pass block. Now when you have a 37 year QB who is incapable of running for his life yet has to do so every game, it is not good to have a RG that cannot pass block.
Obviously, sadly, Omameh cannot do either.



The problem with that analogy is the assumption that Jerry could pass block (exact opposite of Fluker). The reality is that Jerry couldn't do either well and when comparing Omameh with Jerry it is a push with the advantage going to Jerry based on the salary savings.

Hindsight is our advantage. DG took a shot at improving the OL based on the limited market and limited cap dollars. It looks like he missed on Omameh. The good thing is that it isn't a massive overspend (avg. $5M/yr with 2 years guaranteed). Hopefully, we upgrade the right side and can make progress on the improvement of the OL.



He missed on Omameh and he missed on Solder. Honestly, missed on FA entirely. Not a good sign.


I don't consider Solder a miss. Solder is who he is. He is being paid top dollar due to the market. But he never was or is going to be a top LT. DG had no choice with the options. Leaving Flowers there would have been disastrous. Solder needs to improve his play and he has killed many drives. But people tend to forget how terrible Flowers was.
DG has been terrible so far  
Rflairr : 10/15/2018 9:33 pm : link
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People forget how bad flowers was?  
mattlawson : 10/15/2018 9:33 pm : link
I nearly choked on my own saliva reading that.
RE: DG has been terrible so far  
mattlawson : 10/15/2018 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14130429 Rflairr said:
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I don’t see that. But how long does it take to evaluate a Gm?
RE: DG has been terrible so far  
BigBlueShock : 10/15/2018 9:43 pm : link
In comment 14130429 Rflairr said:
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Says the same assclown that constantly goes to bat for Reese and Ross and will defend their utter incompetence over a long period of time till his death. And Gettleman only gets one offseason to fix their mess, yet he’s terrible. Holy shit.

I’m guessing if Gettleman looked a bit different, you’d be his number one fan...
RE: RE: RE: RE: He was the exact opposite of Jerry.  
jcn56 : 10/15/2018 9:48 pm : link
In comment 14130385 Diver_Down said:
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I don't consider Solder a miss. Solder is who he is. He is being paid top dollar due to the market. But he never was or is going to be a top LT. DG had no choice with the options. Leaving Flowers there would have been disastrous. Solder needs to improve his play and he has killed many drives. But people tend to forget how terrible Flowers was.


He was supposed to be an above average but not quite top flight LT. He's much worse than that - he's been average at best so far, with below average stints from time to time (notably this past week).

I don't disagree Flowers had to go, but overpaying for mediocrity isn't a solution.

Which takes us back to where they thought the team was; if they thought this was a rebuild, then they should have just buckled up, rode out the last year of Flowers' tenure with him at LT, found someone serviceable for the right side, then addressed it next year in the draft or FA where there was a better option available.
I loved the Fluker signing last year  
Rjanyg : 10/15/2018 10:10 pm : link
But the weird part was he didn't start the first 4 games. Jerry was at RG and he sucked. I believe McAdoo put him in against the Broncos and we ended up rushing for over 200 yards and we had only 3 active WR. All the starting WR were injured. Fluker is a road grader and an above average RG. He is so much better than Omameh and should have been re-signed to the same deal we paid Omameh. We need people movers on the line and it would have nice to have Fluker at RG with Hernandez on the LG spot. This decision and the Stewart signing are the main head scratcher for me with Gettlemen.
Fluker's  
mittenedman : 10/15/2018 10:16 pm : link
got a chronic knee. He was a medical pass
RE: RE: I thought he did ok here  
Dave in PA : 10/16/2018 12:13 am : link
In comment 14130365 BigBlueShock said:
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I was surprised we didn't re-sign him


It’s why I cannot stand 1 year deals. In any sport really. There really is no upside. If the guy produces, he’s likely gone the following year. Either have conviction on a signing or don’t. If you’re worried about signing him to more than one season because you’re not convinced he can play, then don’t sign him. It’s that simple.
It takes two to tango. Fluker probably didn’t want to sign a 2 year deal unless the money was right.
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