Guys, let me preface to say if this was posted, I am so sorry. I did a quick search and couldn't find this. I'll delete with apologies if I missed an earlier thread.
Given our current situation at QB and how loathed McAdoo was by many, I thought this was curious. I don't know the validity of this although the article cites Anita Marks. I am not privy to any inside info but if this was true, it certainly feels like a missed opportunity. Keep in mind, I am not saying we'd be the Chiefs but the QB position would be a lesser concern.
| With all that is going on in Giants world regarding their current quarterback situation, Ben McAdoo, of all people, was once a big proponent of the team drafting quarterback Patrick Mahomes. |
Ben McAdoo Wanted The NY Giants To Draft Patrick Mahomes - (
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The Kansas City Chiefs selected Mahomes in the first round (10th overall) in the 2017 NFL Draft.[42] The Buffalo Bills traded the 10th overall pick to the Chiefs for their first round pick (27th) , third round pick, and the Chiefs' first round pick in the 2018 NFL Draft.
The New York Giants picked #23 in the first round (selecting Evan Engram).
None of the 2018 draft QBs was the equal of Mahomes (41 TDs/10 INTs at Texas Tech in 2006). Andy Reid knew it and so did McAdoo, THAT was the year to go after that elusive "Franchise QB). Reese blew it, big-time; I remember time very well.
There were more than a few BBIers (including me that begged for Mahomes). Just think what this team would be like - Mahomes, OBJ, Barkley on the field at the SAME time !!
Um, how are they getting Barkley in your scenario?
So Mahomes minus Engram/Barkley/Hill or Carter?
Yeah, um... no.
Are you kidding? If the Chiefs offered us Mahomes for Engram, Barkley, Hill, and Carter I'd happily pack their bags.
Only Giants coach to have a winning season in the last 7 years. What does that say about the other two?
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Our 2017 and 2018 first round picks and probably our 3rd from last year.
So Mahomes minus Engram/Barkley/Hill or Carter?
Yeah, um... no.
Are you kidding? If the Chiefs offered us Mahomes for Engram, Barkley, Hill, and Carter I'd happily pack their bags.
You’re even further away from a rebuild. Getting rid of 3 quality players for 1 player at a position where he is doomed to fail is bad football.
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Our 2017 and 2018 first round picks and probably our 3rd from last year.
So Mahomes minus Engram/Barkley/Hill or Carter?
Yeah, um... no.
Are you kidding? If the Chiefs offered us Mahomes for Engram, Barkley, Hill, and Carter I'd happily pack their bags.
You’re even further away from a rebuild. Getting rid of 3 quality players for 1 player at a position where he is doomed to fail is bad football.
I don't think you're operating in reality.
If that’s a recipe for success..... then we will agree to disagree.
If that’s a recipe for success..... then we will agree to disagree.
A mobile young quarterback with a cannon to throw in the move is a good start. I agree our line sucks, but Mahomes would be a lot more effective behind it than Eli has been.
If that’s a recipe for success..... then we will agree to disagree.
That's a very short term view.
Eli wasn't a success when he took over.
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We would have no OLine, Wayne gallman, Rhett Ellison and a shitty defense with a young QB.
If that’s a recipe for success..... then we will agree to disagree.
A mobile young quarterback with a cannon to throw in the move is a good start. I agree our line sucks, but Mahomes would be a lot more effective behind it than Eli has been.
I am not disagreeing he would give us the opportunity to make more plays. But it would give us more holes to fill hence why I think the rebuild would be longer.
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We would have no OLine, Wayne gallman, Rhett Ellison and a shitty defense with a young QB.
If that’s a recipe for success..... then we will agree to disagree.
That's a very short term view.
Eli wasn't a success when he took over.
Actually it’s the long term view. Trading away quality players for one player makes a rebuild longer.
Plus you guys are assuming success based of what he has done at KC.
I dont get it
thats why you make the trade - are we talking past each other?
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especially Barkley. Finding a quarterback like Mahomes could take decades.
thats why you make the trade - are we talking past each other?
nevermind this post - got you mixed up with Dep. We are saying the same thing
Goff
Watson
Wentz
Wilson
Seem like it doesn’t take decades to find the hot new QB. Again you’re assuming he would have the same chance to succeed here than he has in KC.
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especially Barkley. Finding a quarterback like Mahomes could take decades.
Goff
Watson
Wentz
Wilson
Seem like it doesn’t take decades to find the hot new QB. Again you’re assuming he would have the same chance to succeed here than he has in KC.
in this scenario, he is the same player. Success might not have come as quickly but he would still have the same skills.
And please save me the David Carr syndrome shit. Good players will rise above adversity.
5 years is an eternity in todays NFL