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Analysis Strengths Consistently plays with outstanding body control. Soft hands and elite concentration are his calling cards. Credited with just three drops since 2012. Comfortable with a man on his hip. Maintains focus on downfield throws despite hand fighting and bumps. Daunting catch radius. Produces explosive plays without top-end speed. Works his way back to the ball and gets open during scrambles. Consistently high-points his catches and is a snatch-and-secure receiver. Recognizes when to adjust depth of routes over the middle. Has an innate feel for the position. Proved he could come back from injury and regain his form. Maximizes his catch window through body control, extended hands and positioning. Weaknesses Linear and lacking ideal play strength. Has to prove he can beat a more physical brand of press coverage. Very average suddenness out of breaks. Routes are inconsistent and sometimes lack sharpness. Noticeably slower after returning from a broken bone in his foot in 2014. Lacks top-end speed. Quick-twitch corners could be his kryptonite. He was not put on this earth to run block. NFL Comparison Hakeem Nicks Bottom Line Parker won't win the NFL Scouting Combine, but he will win when the ball is in the air. With his height and an exceptional wingspan (80 inches), he consistently catches everything in his vicinity. Parker isn't going to overpower cornerbacks and he will have more contested catches than most explosive wideouts. Parker has consistently posted eye-popping yards-per-catch numbers during his time at Louisville. Parker needs time to get into his routes and his talents would be on full display in a West Coast passing attack. |
Should have traded Flowers for him, neither guys is playing.
If the Giants continue to lose offer Collins for Parker and a 3rd.
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But I don't want to give up any more draft picks. Dolphins are doing well this year, so perhaps they would trade Parker and a draft pick for one of our roster players.
Should have traded Flowers for him, neither guys is playing.
If the Giants continue to lose offer Collins for Parker and a 3rd.
Haha, I think I proposed that exact trade.
Might as well throw Gareon Conley in the mix as well.
You know what BBI is not lacking?
Mouth-breathing pansies like you.
Wow you are just brutal...you and your dope OC1973...
There's no end game in acquiring him and it's not like DeVante Parker is turning around 2018. We're a poor fit for this type of move.
There's no end game in acquiring him and it's not like DeVante Parker is turning around 2018. We're a poor fit for this type of move.
Dolphins already exercised his 5th year option. So, he'd be expensive for 2019, but it's just one year.
If you're not going to re-sign Collins, and you can get a 3rd and Parker for him, I think you do it.
If Parker sucks or you're not sure on him, then cut him, painlessly. no cap hit, no dead $$.
Holy fuck. You are one miserable person. Its not always about Eli.
If you want a big WR that hasn't lived up to expectations to gamble on, I'd look to MN and Treadwell. No clue what he'd cost or if Shurmur would even be interested (obviously he's very familiar with him).
Maybe Collins for Treadwell + 2nd round pick? Collins/Smith would be an awesome duo back there and Zimmer could do a lot with him.
Conley would be a really nice gamble
If you're suggesting acquiring him through a player trade with Collins, I'd rather have the draft capital. If Parker were on our roster, he'd be a prime candidate to trade away which is why it makes no sense to trade for him. There was a lot of snark on this thread earlier but it's not unwarranted, making a move for Parker would be repeating the same mistakes that got us into this mess in the first place.
Very affordable IMO, if Parker looks like 2017 Parker.
If not, you're getting a 3rd round pick back for Collins which is best case what you'd get as a comp pick.
He was constantly single covered and rarely did the Giants look his way, allowing teams to double or in some cases triple Beckham.
Shepard helps only slightly b/c he's a slot receiver.
Parker would be a legit #2, and free up Beckham to an extent.
Whether Eli can get the ball to either of them is a question, but the trade risks little.
If you think you can trade Collins and get more than a 3rd round pick for him great, in my case I get a WR with upside I can audition for the rest of the season, and cut without any pain if he doesn't show enough, and a 3rd round pick.
I think I did well in that trade.
Your act is old. Did I even say I even wanted this player? Jesus Christ.
If the primary goal of this team is one thing - we are fucked for years. You can do more than one thing at a time. If a guy can be productive on a cheap contract for a few years - you should make it irregardless of Eli. You can still build a team while finding a replacement for Eli.
BBI is going to be a tough place to post because if we dont mention how Eli sucks or we need to replace Eli - then everything else is irrelevant.
Very affordable IMO, if Parker looks like 2017 Parker.
If not, you're getting a 3rd round pick back for Collins which is best case what you'd get as a comp pick.
If he tears up his option year he's in line for a similar deal to Sammy Watkins who got 15m/yr and 30m guaranteed. High upside, inconsistent WRs that flash get paid.
We have OBJ, Barkley and Engram locked in long term. You do not need anymore more big money or draft picks invested beyond those three at the skill position. Fix the OL and get a competent QB with those 3 and you will light it up.
This team may sign a mid-tier free agent WR in the offseason, that's fine. Perhaps someone like Jermaine Kearse who can stretch the field. Either that or use a 5th round pick for a WR, or both.
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I tear up his 5th year option, and sign him to a 4 year 24M deal with $15M guaranteed.
Very affordable IMO, if Parker looks like 2017 Parker.
If not, you're getting a 3rd round pick back for Collins which is best case what you'd get as a comp pick.
If he tears up his option year he's in line for a similar deal to Sammy Watkins who got 15m/yr and 30m guaranteed. High upside, inconsistent WRs that flash get paid.
We have OBJ, Barkley and Engram locked in long term. You do not need anymore more big money or draft picks invested beyond those three at the skill position. Fix the OL and get a competent QB with those 3 and you will light it up.
Parker has two catches this year.
No one is giving him $48M.
Watkins had 8 TD's and was underutilized last year, with a much better pedigree before signing that contract.
The contract Albert Wilson signed is more like what Parker gets IMO (should he get cut and become a FA).
Overly investing in the skill positions at the expense of other positions is how you end up a 3-13 and 1-5. You cannot address every need, so you have to prioritize.
Overly investing in the skill positions at the expense of other positions is how you end up a 3-13 and 1-5. You cannot address every need, so you have to prioritize.
no, the Dolphins would send a draft pick to the Giants. so not sure what draft capital you're talking about the Giants would have to invest.
It's really a low risk trade IMO.
Zog nailed it. We are the team that should be trading away players, not acquiring them.
And they're getting draft picks back. a 3rd. Not sure they're getting better than a 3rd for Collins in any trade.
And they hold all the cards with Parker and can a) keep him on the 5th year option (one year commitment) b) cut him with 0 pain c) re-sign him to a new deal or d) trade him
it's literally no risk.
People are hung up on tangents and noise and I get it and some people can't comment on a suggestion without insulting people (not you acesup), and I don't care, it's just a suggestion and I think it's a worthwhile one to explore.
People have different opinions and I'm fine with that.
Bc the three first rd picks we used on skill players in the last five years hasnt been enough. The david wilson pick wasnt enough either.
The second rd pick we used on Shepard wasnt enough nor was the second rd pick on randle.
The third rd picks spent on jernigan barden beckham werent enough either.
We need big men. On both sides of the ball. Shouldnt draf t a skill player for a few years.
Bc the three first rd picks we used on skill players in the last five years hasnt been enough. The david wilson pick wasnt enough either.
The second rd pick we used on Shepard wasnt enough nor was the second rd pick on randle.
The third rd picks spent on jernigan barden beckham werent enough either.
We need big men. On both sides of the ball. Shouldnt draf t a skill player for a few years.
Solid post Marvin. Because I suggested using a draft resource on a skill position player and I was wrong to do that.
wait, I did what?
If they wanted to be cute and try to get a 2nd or a 3rd for Shepard and go after Parker with a lower round pick, it would be a proactive and aggressive move that might make sense.
Am I typing in backwards font?
the Giants are GETTING the 3rd round pick.
And they're getting draft picks back. a 3rd. Not sure they're getting better than a 3rd for Collins in any trade.
And they hold all the cards with Parker and can a) keep him on the 5th year option (one year commitment) b) cut him with 0 pain c) re-sign him to a new deal or d) trade him
it's literally no risk.
People are hung up on tangents and noise and I get it and some people can't comment on a suggestion without insulting people (not you acesup), and I don't care, it's just a suggestion and I think it's a worthwhile one to explore.
People have different opinions and I'm fine with that.
I don't like the idea but I hope you didn't feel my post was insulting to you pjcas, that wasn't my intent. I think it's not a no-risk trade because Collins is a very good player and I think it's still possible for him to be part of the rebuild and future of the team. There is going to be plenty of money coming off the books once we have a franchise QB on a rookie deal here, and Collins is a good player to have around. You need veteran playmakers and we need talent on the defense, especially since we will likely be drafting offense (QB) with our first rounder yet again this year. If we want to do a quick turnaround into a contender, I think you have to retain your high end talent, especially on defense.
Now, if your opinion is that the future of this team is better served by allocating resources elsewhere and getting a return on him, that's a fine opinion to take but I think we'd have to get a 2nd rounder for Collins, not a third, and I don't think Parker's trade value offsets that need at all.
My whole premise is IF the Giants decide they're not going to resign Collins.
I could go either way on re-signing Collins. I can see a legit case made for and against re-signing him.
Fair point. If they can get better they should do it. I really don't know what his value will be should the Giants decide to move him.
Collins might be their most shoppable asset.
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...weapons for Eli.
You know what BBI is not lacking?
Mouth-breathing pansies like you.
Personal attacks b/c I don't agree with your foolish opinion? You sound like quite the gentleman.
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...weapons for Eli.
You know what BBI is not lacking?
Mouth-breathing pansies like you.
Personal attacks b/c I don't agree with your foolish opinion? You sound like quite the gentleman.
No, this has nothing to do with Parker. I couldn't give a shit about Parker. This is about how you've been throughout your time at BBI.
Lol, get him kid.
Lol, get him kid.
I'm just sick of what BBI has become. The Giants are terrible and have been for the last few years, but the fan quality has become absolute shit and BBI reflects that. We don't need guys like Josh being whiny little pussies every step of the way. WAH, WE DIDN'T GET A QB. WAHHH. There won't be anyone better than Darnold in the future. WAHHHH.
We don't need Jeff53 contributing absolutely nothing to the rhetoric of this board by posting four word responses.
And we sure as hell don't need these idiots coming out of the woodwork to craft these stupid, uninformed and unrealistic ideas. Not to mention, those who believe in revisionist history by saying that Eli is a bust and that we would've been better off with Roethlisberger and Rivers.
This board needs to be cleansed of the morons that pervade its webspace.
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that Anak called someone a "mouth-breathing pansy?"
Lol, get him kid.
I'm just sick of what BBI has become. The Giants are terrible and have been for the last few years, but the fan quality has become absolute shit and BBI reflects that. We don't need guys like Josh being whiny little pussies every step of the way. WAH, WE DIDN'T GET A QB. WAHHH. There won't be anyone better than Darnold in the future. WAHHHH.
We don't need Jeff53 contributing absolutely nothing to the rhetoric of this board by posting four word responses.
And we sure as hell don't need these idiots coming out of the woodwork to craft these stupid, uninformed and unrealistic ideas. Not to mention, those who believe in revisionist history by saying that Eli is a bust and that we would've been better off with Roethlisberger and Rivers.
This board needs to be cleansed of the morons that pervade its webspace.
Oh I hear ya. I just havent seen the word in print/type in quite a while. Haha
I agree as well. I have repeatedly gotten annoyed at the posters who keep bringing up the exact same fucking thing with every post. Barkley does well? The same posters bring up how it wont make a difference because we have an old ineffective QB. Collins makes a good tackle? People repeat that he cant be relied on to cover receivers past 10 yards. Will Hernandez makes a great block? We are constantly reminded of the poor FA signings we made.
This place has become fucking tedious in that regard. I have plenty of misgivings about the team and the way it's run. But I dont infect other threads with negative, mewling, repetitive complaints.
We got the point the previous 50 times you complained about that.