to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
Mara should take his own advice, really - he should be talking less and doing a better job with this franchise. Because lately, he's doing a pretty fucking bad one.
He isn't wrong about Beckham at all, but this is Jerry Jones stuff. Let the coach handle it.
Once the owner comes out and starts making comments like this, it doesn't end well.
to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
Mara should take his own advice, really - he should be talking less and doing a better job with this franchise. Because lately, he's doing a pretty fucking bad one.
He isn't wrong about Beckham at all, but this is Jerry Jones stuff. Let the coach handle it.
Once the owner comes out and starts making comments like this, it doesn't end well.
Yep - and unlike Odell, Mara's track record has been shit for some time now.
Publicly, the controversy surrounding Odell's comments and ESPN interview was subsiding. You let it die. Mara is the boss, you can say whatever you want behind closed doors and I'm sure plenty was said behind closed doors.
What he did was about his own ego to make himself look like the big man in charge to the public. You give non-answers to questions about that topic and say everything that has needed to be said has been said and it's an internal issue. Boom, no sound bytes.
Seriously questioning Mara's judgement here.
We should cut him and re-sign the great Jerrel Jernigan! Â
He was also right to sign OBJ.. Almost everything OBJ said was also right.. OBJ simply shouldn't have said them in the media..
Overall people are stupid.. they make a big deal of what OBJ is saying.. when in reality the big deal is our record.. regardless of all this drama we are still the worst team in the league.. The losing caused this drama not the other way around.. Fix the losing and no one will care about the drama..
"What have you done for me lately", john mara is really low on the credibility pecking order compared to Beckham. Hes been better at his job than anyone else employed by the Giants.
to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
so your position is that there's nothing to see here? and it's dumb to care about beckham being fined and held to account by the coach, and by the owner? k then.
What good does calling out Obj publicly do? It creates a more negative enviroment with the team and in the media. Where is the professionalism? The Giants are no longer one of the reputable teams in the league. Thank you John Mara for making this team trash, i have no respect for your ways.
Really, none of what is being said is wrong - it's that it needs to stop being aired out in the open and needs to be handled in-house.
Beckham is right to be frustrated. He's right to see the way PIT, HOU, ATL, etc. get the ball to their star WR's while we can't do anything but throw him bubble screens or quick slants expecting him to take it to the house.
But Beckham needs to fucking stop with the public comments, the tantrums, the childish behavior. Enough is enough.
Mara is right about that. But again - this isn't something Mara should be opining on in public. It basically undermines the coach and it creates even more of a shitshow.
It's just all bad for the Giants right now. It's pretty infuriating.
Damn straight if my employer was paying me that, they would have all the right in the world to put me in check.
And you do that...internally. Publicly, you are exacerbating the situation which is a bad move for the organization. Is your duty to the health and success of the organization or is your duty to feed your ego by seeing your name in the paper?
It doesn't matter if his sentiment is right (and it is right), what matters is being above the tit for tat and putting your franchise first. This was a controversy that was pretty much over. Now it's not going to be, and it has the potential to become a toxic situation with one of your best players. There was no need for this.
What did he think that would accomplish? Question the receiver when the fans, media, players are all questioning the QB. Just opens up Eli to more criticism.
It's times like this when you need a vocal leader(not OBJ) to get all the troops together and iron out this mess....
BTW..not John Mara one of the major reasons we are back in the 70's
to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
so your position is that there's nothing to see here? and it's dumb to care about beckham being fined and held to account by the coach, and by the owner? k then.
No, he needs to clean it up, but the fact that it bothers people so much is funny to me, always will be.
...OBJ is trying to get primetime replay with his head-butting on the sideline because he ain't getting any primetime replay for his (lack of) TD catches.
Really, none of what is being said is wrong - it's that it needs to stop being aired out in the open and needs to be handled in-house.
Beckham is right to be frustrated. He's right to see the way PIT, HOU, ATL, etc. get the ball to their star WR's while we can't do anything but throw him bubble screens or quick slants expecting him to take it to the house.
But Beckham needs to fucking stop with the public comments, the tantrums, the childish behavior. Enough is enough.
Mara is right about that. But again - this isn't something Mara should be opining on in public. It basically undermines the coach and it creates even more of a shitshow.
It's just all bad for the Giants right now. It's pretty infuriating.
Spot on. Sure, OBJ could shut up, but regardless, nobody wins a war of words in the media between owner and WR
...OBJ is trying to get primetime replay with his head-butting on the sideline because he ain't getting any primetime replay for his (lack of) TD catches.
Who isn't frustrated by the stats bbn of this team. The franchise has been bad since 2012.
to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
so your position is that there's nothing to see here? and it's dumb to care about beckham being fined and held to account by the coach, and by the owner? k then.
No, he needs to clean it up, but the fact that it bothers people so much is funny to me, always will be.
it doesn't bother me "so much," but odell has become on of my least favorite giants. and i fully defended him up through the josh norman debacle. i just don't understand a fan who would concede that odell's bullshit is a problem he needs to clean up, yet also say they think it's funny that his bullshit is annoying to other giants fans. seems dumb to me
taking pot shots at your best player through the media is what players do to each other.
You are his boss. If you want something to change you do it behind closed doors. Or you have the coach to do it or GM. You aren't Jerry Jones and who wants to be Jerry Jones anyway?
"There is an Odell problem. It is a problem. It is a problem when you keep losing, and Fox is zooming in on him ...and I saw Martellus Bennett who I follow on Twitter, he's like 'don't blame it all on Odell' and he thought that Joe and Troy and the Fox broadcast were way too focused on his antics and not on Eli Mannings inability to play the quarterback position at a high level anymore. And in that regard I think Martellus is right...but its also, what have you built up in the respect bank, in the National Football League? And at this point it appears that Odell has insufficient funds in that bank."
And cue the "well, if he had a QB who could get him the ball..."
Love it!!!
He's the idiot that gave the idiot a huge contract.
2. John Mara needs to shut the fuck up. He's majorly responsible for the massive downturn this franchise has taken.
He isn't wrong about Beckham at all, but this is Jerry Jones stuff. Let the coach handle it.
Once the owner comes out and starts making comments like this, it doesn't end well.
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
He isn't wrong about Beckham at all, but this is Jerry Jones stuff. Let the coach handle it.
Once the owner comes out and starts making comments like this, it doesn't end well.
Yep - and unlike Odell, Mara's track record has been shit for some time now.
What he did was about his own ego to make himself look like the big man in charge to the public. You give non-answers to questions about that topic and say everything that has needed to be said has been said and it's an internal issue. Boom, no sound bytes.
Seriously questioning Mara's judgement here.
Think about that.
Overall people are stupid.. they make a big deal of what OBJ is saying.. when in reality the big deal is our record.. regardless of all this drama we are still the worst team in the league.. The losing caused this drama not the other way around.. Fix the losing and no one will care about the drama..
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to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
so your position is that there's nothing to see here? and it's dumb to care about beckham being fined and held to account by the coach, and by the owner? k then.
Beckham is right to be frustrated. He's right to see the way PIT, HOU, ATL, etc. get the ball to their star WR's while we can't do anything but throw him bubble screens or quick slants expecting him to take it to the house.
But Beckham needs to fucking stop with the public comments, the tantrums, the childish behavior. Enough is enough.
Mara is right about that. But again - this isn't something Mara should be opining on in public. It basically undermines the coach and it creates even more of a shitshow.
It's just all bad for the Giants right now. It's pretty infuriating.
I think we should blame that pathetic clown show of a muffed punt for a TD on Eli as well!
Or maybe is was the sun's fault? Or maybe it was Jenkins' fault?
Anyone but Odell!
And you do that...internally. Publicly, you are exacerbating the situation which is a bad move for the organization. Is your duty to the health and success of the organization or is your duty to feed your ego by seeing your name in the paper?
It doesn't matter if his sentiment is right (and it is right), what matters is being above the tit for tat and putting your franchise first. This was a controversy that was pretty much over. Now it's not going to be, and it has the potential to become a toxic situation with one of your best players. There was no need for this.
BTW..not John Mara one of the major reasons we are back in the 70's
Mara should have listened to my sagely advice to trade him this summer.
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to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
so your position is that there's nothing to see here? and it's dumb to care about beckham being fined and held to account by the coach, and by the owner? k then.
No, he needs to clean it up, but the fact that it bothers people so much is funny to me, always will be.
...OBJ is trying to get primetime replay with his head-butting on the sideline because he ain't getting any primetime replay for his (lack of) TD catches.
A passive aggressive Instragram post, followed by gentle sobbing on Josina Anderson's shoulder.
Beckham is right to be frustrated. He's right to see the way PIT, HOU, ATL, etc. get the ball to their star WR's while we can't do anything but throw him bubble screens or quick slants expecting him to take it to the house.
But Beckham needs to fucking stop with the public comments, the tantrums, the childish behavior. Enough is enough.
Mara is right about that. But again - this isn't something Mara should be opining on in public. It basically undermines the coach and it creates even more of a shitshow.
It's just all bad for the Giants right now. It's pretty infuriating.
Spot on. Sure, OBJ could shut up, but regardless, nobody wins a war of words in the media between owner and WR
...OBJ is trying to get primetime replay with his head-butting on the sideline because he ain't getting any primetime replay for his (lack of) TD catches.
Who isn't frustrated by the stats bbn of this team. The franchise has been bad since 2012.
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to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
so your position is that there's nothing to see here? and it's dumb to care about beckham being fined and held to account by the coach, and by the owner? k then.
No, he needs to clean it up, but the fact that it bothers people so much is funny to me, always will be.
it doesn't bother me "so much," but odell has become on of my least favorite giants. and i fully defended him up through the josh norman debacle. i just don't understand a fan who would concede that odell's bullshit is a problem he needs to clean up, yet also say they think it's funny that his bullshit is annoying to other giants fans. seems dumb to me
What a clusterf*ck of an organization right now.
You are his boss. If you want something to change you do it behind closed doors. Or you have the coach to do it or GM. You aren't Jerry Jones and who wants to be Jerry Jones anyway?
"There is an Odell problem. It is a problem. It is a problem when you keep losing, and Fox is zooming in on him ...and I saw Martellus Bennett who I follow on Twitter, he's like 'don't blame it all on Odell' and he thought that Joe and Troy and the Fox broadcast were way too focused on his antics and not on Eli Mannings inability to play the quarterback position at a high level anymore. And in that regard I think Martellus is right...but its also, what have you built up in the respect bank, in the National Football League? And at this point it appears that Odell has insufficient funds in that bank."