-Racism
-An anti-Beckham agenda from the media
-A young kid who captured fame too soon and just needed to mature
-Just a passionate guy
-Frustration with losing (even though his only playoff game to date included more idiotic behavior and poor performance)
-It's Eli Manning's fault
I'm sure there will be more.
RE: I find it really funny that we can all criticize the owner Â
If any one of us were the owner of a sports franchise, we would have a hard time just saying " no comment " or absolutely nothing.
Yes this franchise is in a weird place and it sucks but to act like you all could keep your mouth shut is pretty ridiculous.
It's not ridiculous.
Not every owner makes comments like these when their team is playing poorly. It's a matter of understanding how to handle certain situations and realizing that comments like these do nothing but make matters worse.
who should've given a no comment on the odell matter, and odell can be a high maintenance clueless idiot who constantly needs to be managed or checked by his coach and other players on the team. worst of both worlds.
If I'd just backed up the Brinks truck for someone, making them one of the highest paid players in the league, and then only 4 weeks into the season to throw everyone under the bus - I'd have said the same thing.
RE: I find it really funny that we can all criticize the owner Â
If any one of us were the owner of a sports franchise, we would have a hard time just saying " no comment " or absolutely nothing.
Yes this franchise is in a weird place and it sucks but to act like you all could keep your mouth shut is pretty ridiculous.
Maybe if you have no self control, but it’s a problem if you’ve been born into this business and don’t have the self control to not make a bad situation worse with your words. You are signing the checks, you have that conversation with the player and not through the media.
If I'd just backed up the Brinks truck for someone, making them one of the highest paid players in the league, and then only 4 weeks into the season to throw everyone under the bus - I'd have said the same thing.
leaves me to believe one thing and one thing only.
They are laying the groundwork for any future infractions that could lead the Giants to suspend up for conduct detrimental to the team and recoup some of the bonus money.
leaves me to believe one thing and one thing only.
They are laying the groundwork for any future infractions that could lead the Giants to suspend up for conduct detrimental to the team and recoup some of the bonus money.
Or, and stay with me here, I'm just spitballing ideas.......they want him to shut up and play football.
There doesn't need to be some deep motivation here. Odell is great at football. Odell needs to learn how to communicate his concerns or feelings in the right way. STFU and play football, which is what you are paid very well to do. Thats it.
Has he just had a bad few years or he is a poor owner whose ineptitude was covered by the prime years of several great players? I really don't know anymore. I think he's right about Odell. But he has to know what the reaction is going to be when you make something like this public. Also, I hope he realizes he has blame in this mess too, so he opens himself up to public criticism as well when he makes a statement like this.
I don't think there is any doubt anymore that this is as low and bad a point the Giants have been in since the 70s.
to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
so your position is that there's nothing to see here? and it's dumb to care about beckham being fined and held to account by the coach, and by the owner? k then.
No, he needs to clean it up, but the fact that it bothers people so much is funny to me, always will be.
it doesn't bother me "so much," but odell has become on of my least favorite giants. and i fully defended him up through the josh norman debacle. i just don't understand a fan who would concede that odell's bullshit is a problem he needs to clean up, yet also say they think it's funny that his bullshit is annoying to other giants fans. seems dumb to me
It won’t seem dumb when you realize that it’s ok to want X player to be different but not enough for it to bother you. There’s a ton of problems on this team, the focus should be on those. Everything else is just feeding the media.
Blocking, QB play, playcalling, defense, etc are all far larger issues that need attention. I’d rather Odell fix his special teams play than worry about what he says to Lil Wayne.
He’s an influential presence on the team and he misused it, caused divisive instead of unity. This is about to backfire on Odell. He hasn’t played mistake free football either.
taking pot shots at your best player through the media is what players do to each other.
You are his boss. If you want something to change you do it behind closed doors. Or you have the coach to do it or GM. You aren't Jerry Jones and who wants to be Jerry Jones anyway?
he's not the best player anymore and he'll never be able to take that. the more saquon shines the more he'll act out.
He’s an influential presence on the team and he misused it, caused divisive instead of unity. This is about to backfire on Odell. He hasn’t played mistake free football either.
you do realize he defended eli, he didnt throw him under the bus like espn made it seem...
he also said it was his job to get the team up and ready tonj play he didnt name any players...
He’s an influential presence on the team and he misused it, caused divisive instead of unity. This is about to backfire on Odell. He hasn’t played mistake free football either.
Of course what Odell did was wrong. So what better way to try to point out it was wrong than for Mara to go and make that public statement, which was better delivered in person.
And those intentions are up for debate, he was fined by the coach and Odell then doubled down and said he only apologized to keep the peace. Basically throwing the fine back in Shurmur’s face. Odell like everyone needs to do better.
taking pot shots at your best player through the media is what players do to each other.
You are his boss. If you want something to change you do it behind closed doors. Or you have the coach to do it or GM. You aren't Jerry Jones and who wants to be Jerry Jones anyway?
he's not the best player anymore and he'll never be able to take that. the more saquon shines the more he'll act out.
yes lets complete ignore the fact that he doesnt care who shines as long as the team wins, lets ignore that he is friends with barkley and talks up barkley every chance he gets..
lets ignore that thisnis the same player that fscetimed barkley 5 minutes after he was drafted..
lets ignore the same guy who refused an interview with nfl network unless the entire wide receiver core was involved..
this notion that beckham csres about barkley being a better player is laughable..
If any one of us were the owner of a sports franchise, we would have a hard time just saying " no comment " or absolutely nothing.
Yes this franchise is in a weird place and it sucks but to act like you all could keep your mouth shut is pretty ridiculous.
"Odell hates losing. We all hate losing. We are 1-5 and we are going to do everything that we can to win some games. Everyone is frustrated, not just Odell. Its our job to make sure that we start winning some games."
Its not that hard. 1. Say everyone hates losing; 2. acknowledge its frustrating; 3 say we're going to do everything to start winning.
current owner Mara is acting just like his father Wellington did until Â
George Young came aboard and straightened out the entire organization, from comments, to draft, to contracts, etc. I don't think Gettleman can or will do it and Mara is just too immature as an owner to see it yet, and Odell is a major PIA and needs to mature rapidly.
to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
so your position is that there's nothing to see here? and it's dumb to care about beckham being fined and held to account by the coach, and by the owner? k then.
No, he needs to clean it up, but the fact that it bothers people so much is funny to me, always will be.
it doesn't bother me "so much," but odell has become on of my least favorite giants. and i fully defended him up through the josh norman debacle. i just don't understand a fan who would concede that odell's bullshit is a problem he needs to clean up, yet also say they think it's funny that his bullshit is annoying to other giants fans. seems dumb to me
It won’t seem dumb when you realize that it’s ok to want X player to be different but not enough for it to bother you. There’s a ton of problems on this team, the focus should be on those. Everything else is just feeding the media.
Blocking, QB play, playcalling, defense, etc are all far larger issues that need attention. I’d rather Odell fix his special teams play than worry about what he says to Lil Wayne.
no, that doesn't seem dumb. what seems dumb is that you would take pleasure in other fans being annoyed by beckham reverting back to form and airing grievances publicly in stream of consciousness form, or otherwise acting like an idiot, while also making major mistakes on the field (and not just the horrific whiff on the punt).
this was a 3-13 team last year. i understand that it will take time to fix the blocking, the defense, the QB, etc etc. but odell was given a large second contract and is supposed to be part of the solution and one thing we can feel positive about going forward. i definitely don't feel that way about him, and yes, that is annoying to me. but kudos to you for taking pleasure in that, man. i'm sure you're right- whatever crap beckham says about the giants in sit-down interviews in season with popular rappers or the worst that the gossip sports media has to offer isn't the "real" issue here. *eyeroll*
If any one of us were the owner of a sports franchise, we would have a hard time just saying " no comment " or absolutely nothing.
Yes this franchise is in a weird place and it sucks but to act like you all could keep your mouth shut is pretty ridiculous.
No, it's called being an adult and knowing where your responsibility lies. I might not keep my mouth shut behind closed doors but I certainly wouldn't go public.
would not have stood for any of this nonsense. This team always had pride and heritage. It meant something to wear the uniform. The photo of Barkley looking at all the greats gave me chills to think what this kid can do and has not disappointed me yet.
Odell is making this team all about him. Yea he is good but dont let ONE amazing catch define who you are as a player. Now we are defining him for what he does on the sidelines. Get out of the double team situations. Make the plays. Earn the money. Eli is at least trying to do good for the team. Lets try to win some games get back some dignity back and maybe, just MAYBE make a run for it.
everyone associated with franchise needs to shut up and row Â
focus on Atlanta and play a competitive game. This shit with OBJ needs to stop. This shit with Eli needs to be put to bed. If he has another shitty game he needs to sit if for no other reason than the team needs to stop living in the past.
would not have stood for any of this nonsense. This team always had pride and heritage. It meant something to wear the uniform. The photo of Barkley looking at all the greats gave me chills to think what this kid can do and has not disappointed me yet.
Odell is making this team all about him. Yea he is good but dont let ONE amazing catch define who you are as a player. Now we are defining him for what he does on the sidelines. Get out of the double team situations. Make the plays. Earn the money. Eli is at least trying to do good for the team. Lets try to win some games get back some dignity back and maybe, just MAYBE make a run for it.
Wellington Mara gave serial domestic abuser, multi arrest Tito Wooten to a contract extension.
Yes this franchise is in a weird place and it sucks but to act like you all could keep your mouth shut is pretty ridiculous.
So he thought this was the appropriate medium by which to share his thoughts?! Top to bottom this organization is in trouble!
Getts your up next! What says you?
-Racism
-An anti-Beckham agenda from the media
-A young kid who captured fame too soon and just needed to mature
-Just a passionate guy
-Frustration with losing (even though his only playoff game to date included more idiotic behavior and poor performance)
-It's Eli Manning's fault
I'm sure there will be more.
Yes this franchise is in a weird place and it sucks but to act like you all could keep your mouth shut is pretty ridiculous.
It's not ridiculous.
Not every owner makes comments like these when their team is playing poorly. It's a matter of understanding how to handle certain situations and realizing that comments like these do nothing but make matters worse.
Yes this franchise is in a weird place and it sucks but to act like you all could keep your mouth shut is pretty ridiculous.
Maybe if you have no self control, but it’s a problem if you’ve been born into this business and don’t have the self control to not make a bad situation worse with your words. You are signing the checks, you have that conversation with the player and not through the media.
You’d say something to the media? Why?
They are laying the groundwork for any future infractions that could lead the Giants to suspend up for conduct detrimental to the team and recoup some of the bonus money.
And cue the "well, if he had a QB who could get him the ball..."
They are laying the groundwork for any future infractions that could lead the Giants to suspend up for conduct detrimental to the team and recoup some of the bonus money.
Or, and stay with me here, I'm just spitballing ideas.......they want him to shut up and play football.
There doesn't need to be some deep motivation here. Odell is great at football. Odell needs to learn how to communicate his concerns or feelings in the right way. STFU and play football, which is what you are paid very well to do. Thats it.
I don't think there is any doubt anymore that this is as low and bad a point the Giants have been in since the 70s.
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to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
so your position is that there's nothing to see here? and it's dumb to care about beckham being fined and held to account by the coach, and by the owner? k then.
No, he needs to clean it up, but the fact that it bothers people so much is funny to me, always will be.
it doesn't bother me "so much," but odell has become on of my least favorite giants. and i fully defended him up through the josh norman debacle. i just don't understand a fan who would concede that odell's bullshit is a problem he needs to clean up, yet also say they think it's funny that his bullshit is annoying to other giants fans. seems dumb to me
It won’t seem dumb when you realize that it’s ok to want X player to be different but not enough for it to bother you. There’s a ton of problems on this team, the focus should be on those. Everything else is just feeding the media.
Blocking, QB play, playcalling, defense, etc are all far larger issues that need attention. I’d rather Odell fix his special teams play than worry about what he says to Lil Wayne.
LOL!
That was good one.
Sorry, piece of shit troll says what now?
What was your last handle?
Obvious troll is obvious.
So was Odell about the offense, the QB and this teams heart or lack of it.
you find humorous that people do not give a shit about a players persinality and just root for the name on the front?
did you root for michael boley?
You are his boss. If you want something to change you do it behind closed doors. Or you have the coach to do it or GM. You aren't Jerry Jones and who wants to be Jerry Jones anyway?
he's not the best player anymore and he'll never be able to take that. the more saquon shines the more he'll act out.
you do realize he defended eli, he didnt throw him under the bus like espn made it seem...
he also said it was his job to get the team up and ready tonj play he didnt name any players...
Of course what Odell did was wrong. So what better way to try to point out it was wrong than for Mara to go and make that public statement, which was better delivered in person.
Do as I say, not as I do?
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that a fan can like Odell and also like Barkley And Shepard. They're polar opposites as people. two class acts one piece of shit pussy
you find humorous that people do not give a shit about a players persinality and just root for the name on the front?
did you root for michael boley?
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taking pot shots at your best player through the media is what players do to each other.
You are his boss. If you want something to change you do it behind closed doors. Or you have the coach to do it or GM. You aren't Jerry Jones and who wants to be Jerry Jones anyway?
he's not the best player anymore and he'll never be able to take that. the more saquon shines the more he'll act out.
yes lets complete ignore the fact that he doesnt care who shines as long as the team wins, lets ignore that he is friends with barkley and talks up barkley every chance he gets..
lets ignore that thisnis the same player that fscetimed barkley 5 minutes after he was drafted..
lets ignore the same guy who refused an interview with nfl network unless the entire wide receiver core was involved..
this notion that beckham csres about barkley being a better player is laughable..
Piece of shit pussy? Dude, step away from the keyboard and get some help
Yes this franchise is in a weird place and it sucks but to act like you all could keep your mouth shut is pretty ridiculous.
"Odell hates losing. We all hate losing. We are 1-5 and we are going to do everything that we can to win some games. Everyone is frustrated, not just Odell. Its our job to make sure that we start winning some games."
Its not that hard. 1. Say everyone hates losing; 2. acknowledge its frustrating; 3 say we're going to do everything to start winning.
Seriously. Amazing point.
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to sign him to a second contract, despite his talents, he's a pouty babyman with a crazy streak. can't wait to see 10 more weeks of him yelling into a fan and banging his head on things on the sideline. oh wait, i'm just being duped by the evil media and am tricked by their agenda, that's right..
I hope it keeps happening so I can laugh at guys like you who actually care about it.
so your position is that there's nothing to see here? and it's dumb to care about beckham being fined and held to account by the coach, and by the owner? k then.
No, he needs to clean it up, but the fact that it bothers people so much is funny to me, always will be.
it doesn't bother me "so much," but odell has become on of my least favorite giants. and i fully defended him up through the josh norman debacle. i just don't understand a fan who would concede that odell's bullshit is a problem he needs to clean up, yet also say they think it's funny that his bullshit is annoying to other giants fans. seems dumb to me
It won’t seem dumb when you realize that it’s ok to want X player to be different but not enough for it to bother you. There’s a ton of problems on this team, the focus should be on those. Everything else is just feeding the media.
Blocking, QB play, playcalling, defense, etc are all far larger issues that need attention. I’d rather Odell fix his special teams play than worry about what he says to Lil Wayne.
no, that doesn't seem dumb. what seems dumb is that you would take pleasure in other fans being annoyed by beckham reverting back to form and airing grievances publicly in stream of consciousness form, or otherwise acting like an idiot, while also making major mistakes on the field (and not just the horrific whiff on the punt).
this was a 3-13 team last year. i understand that it will take time to fix the blocking, the defense, the QB, etc etc. but odell was given a large second contract and is supposed to be part of the solution and one thing we can feel positive about going forward. i definitely don't feel that way about him, and yes, that is annoying to me. but kudos to you for taking pleasure in that, man. i'm sure you're right- whatever crap beckham says about the giants in sit-down interviews in season with popular rappers or the worst that the gossip sports media has to offer isn't the "real" issue here. *eyeroll*
Although reality TV is loved by a lot of people.
It reminds me of the old SNL skit, "Bad Idea Jeans"...
Guy #2: You’re renting, right?
Guy #1: Yeah.
Guy #3: Well, he’s an ex free-base addict, and he’s trying to turn around, and he needs a place to stay for a couple of months.
Guy #4: Now that I have kids, I feel a lot better having a gun in the house.
Guy #3: I thought about it, and even though it’s over, I’m going to tell my wife about the affair.
Guy #5: I don’t know the guy, but I’ve got two kidneys and he needs one, so I figured..
Guy #2: Normally I wear protection, but then I thought, “When am I gonna make it back to Haiti?”
NFL owner: the guy's a pain in the ass and I'm not sure I can trust him, but I figure I'll pay him $90M.
Bad idea.
Yes this franchise is in a weird place and it sucks but to act like you all could keep your mouth shut is pretty ridiculous.
No, it's called being an adult and knowing where your responsibility lies. I might not keep my mouth shut behind closed doors but I certainly wouldn't go public.
Odell is making this team all about him. Yea he is good but dont let ONE amazing catch define who you are as a player. Now we are defining him for what he does on the sidelines. Get out of the double team situations. Make the plays. Earn the money. Eli is at least trying to do good for the team. Lets try to win some games get back some dignity back and maybe, just MAYBE make a run for it.
Odell is making this team all about him. Yea he is good but dont let ONE amazing catch define who you are as a player. Now we are defining him for what he does on the sidelines. Get out of the double team situations. Make the plays. Earn the money. Eli is at least trying to do good for the team. Lets try to win some games get back some dignity back and maybe, just MAYBE make a run for it.
Wellington Mara gave serial domestic abuser, multi arrest Tito Wooten to a contract extension.