...while I would NEVER call Harry Carson a diva drama queen, there was a time (if memory serves me right) when he got so sick and tired of lousy football that he threatened to leave the Giants and either join some sort of special commando force or some other crazy idea like that.
Of course it never happened, but I mention this because a lot of crazy stuff happens when a team sucks, driving players to do and say stupid shit.
Eventually, the Giants straightened things out and Harry Carson put away his crazy thoughts/statements, and hopefully the same will transpire for out talented WR.
But that requires winning, which requires talent, which requires patience. Does OBJ have any?
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Can we stop painting the picture of Beckham is a victim of losing?
He's also the biggest reason we lost the last playoff game so there's that too.
Can we stop painting the picture of Beckham is a victim of losing?
He's also the biggest reason we lost the last playoff game so there's that too.
He’s also the biggest reason they made the playoffs that year so there’s that too.
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This was a playoff team 2 short years ago.
Can we stop painting the picture of Beckham is a victim of losing?
He's also the biggest reason we lost the last playoff game so there's that too.
He’s also the biggest reason they made the playoffs that year so there’s that too.
Hmmm... I seem to remember the defense playing pretty well that year. The team never scored 30 points.
So, while 1-5 is horrible and I can't stand it, the reality is there are only 18 players from last years team on this current roster. A whole new coaching staff, new offensive system, new defensive system and a entirely new Offensive line. Lots of moving parts. I believe the hope was a competitive team, maybe play offs but I am not sure we were ever going to be a contender.
Either way, OBJ needs to start focusing on the " ny " on the side of his helmet and less on the " Beckham Jr. " on the back of his jersey. Make some plays.
Beckham is the second to last thing that is causing this team to lose every week. He’s a maniac, a pain at times and immature— he needs to manage his emotions when times are down but he’s not the problem with this team.
The nice guys on this team are the problem. Some of the incumbents are way too comfortable with losing or living to fight another day.
The biggest problem with this team is they don't win, not OBJ, unless of course you believe his behavuyiw the reason for the losing
I would think even his biggest distractors, don t believe that
This era, right now, is filled with all sorts of bullshit and annoying crap. But I don't feel all that bad for these millionaires, or young fans who have had some really good football to start their fan lives. My son is a perfect example - First year he really paid attention was 2007. Just a few years later, AGAIN he gets a Super Bowl win ... and he was 13 years old! Crazy.
When I was 13 the Giants had won a combined 10 games in my first 3 seasons as a fan, including seasons with 2 and 3 wins. That was my starter!
In Norm MacDonald fashion, I kinda rambled there and maybe even lost the point, but holy hell, this is nothing, people!
i thought it was a fighter pilot
Beckham is the second to last thing that is causing this team to lose every week. He’s a maniac, a pain at times and immature— he needs to manage his emotions when times are down but he’s not the problem with this team.
The nice guys on this team are the problem. Some of the incumbents are way too comfortable with losing or living to fight another day.
Yep.
Like I said in another thread - I'd rather have the lunatic who can't stand losing than the nice, quiet fellas who just collect their paycheck, go home, and are content with losing.
Beckham needs to grow the fuck up already, but he goes all out on the football field and there's no quit in him. It'd be nice to see more of that from some other players. Particularly on the other side of the ball.
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This was a playoff team 2 short years ago.
Can we stop painting the picture of Beckham is a victim of losing?
He's also the biggest reason we lost the last playoff game so there's that too.
He’s also the biggest reason they made the playoffs that year so there’s that too.
Hmmm... I seem to remember the defense playing pretty well that year. The team never scored 30 points.
Defense for sure played well.
If you take him off that offense they don’t make the playoffs. Thats why i said he was the biggest reason - should have said most important player.
Barkley is not far behind him .
High character guys are wonderful, but this is the NFL and there are going to be eccentric, egotistical guys in every locker room. You get rid of them when they are average or below average talents, and you find a way to manage them when they are elite talents. If that job was easy anyone could do it.