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GiantsUA : 10/17/2018 10:41 am
Looking forward to tonight's game.

Wonder if we will see former Mr. NY State Basketball and section 2 star - Kevin Huerter - 19th pick in NBA draft

Several of the past winners of Mr. New York State Basketball (established in 1986) went to star at major Division I schools and some of them enjoyed extended careers in the NBA — among them Stephon Marbury, Elton Brand, Jamal Mashburn and Kenny Anderson.
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Go New York! Go New York! Go!  
Heisenberg : 10/17/2018 10:44 am : link
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Gonna be a looooong year.  
Keith : 10/17/2018 10:53 am : link
This time next year should be a lot of fun!
RE: Gonna be a looooong year.  
Heisenberg : 10/17/2018 10:56 am : link
In comment 14132586 Keith said:
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This time next year should be a lot of fun!


I don't feel like it will be a long year. The expectations are low. There's fun young players up and down the roster. There will be a lot of games where they play well for 3 out of 4 Q and lose. And there will be games where they win. As long as they play hard, they will be fun to watch, even when they lose. It's much different than watching a roster of average veterans suck with no draft picks in sight.
I'm very excited.  
Beezer : 10/17/2018 11:05 am : link
It seems like a realistic view from the front office. The coach finally seems to get it. Lots of fun things to watch, and if we can believe what we've seen so far, this is a team that will not be short on effort.

Let's Go! (And let's lose a lot of games. lol)
RE: RE: Gonna be a looooong year.  
Keith : 10/17/2018 11:06 am : link
In comment 14132592 Heisenberg said:
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In comment 14132586 Keith said:


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This time next year should be a lot of fun!



I don't feel like it will be a long year. The expectations are low. There's fun young players up and down the roster. There will be a lot of games where they play well for 3 out of 4 Q and lose. And there will be games where they win. As long as they play hard, they will be fun to watch, even when they lose. It's much different than watching a roster of average veterans suck with no draft picks in sight.


Lets talk after 3 months of constant losing and Kanter, Lee, THJR and Lance Thomas getting 30 mins a game. Don't get me wrong, I understand the importance of the development for a few key players, but its gonna get old pretty fast, IMO.
This year should be fun in terms of seeing the young guys develop  
Giantology : 10/17/2018 11:07 am : link
Knox, Mitch, Frank, Trier, etc. That is all I'm hoping for this season- hopefully all these guys see big minutes.
Knicks  
TyreeHelmet : 10/17/2018 11:32 am : link
Are 3.5 pt favorites tonight. You won’t be seeing that too often this year.

I know they are going to be awful and I can’t stand watching THJ and Kanter, but I’m still excited. I really hope Knox and Frank have promising years. I think those 2 proving themselves as solid starters will do wonders for the Knicks outlook going forward.
TH  
GiantsUA : 10/17/2018 11:48 am : link
What don't you like about Kanter?
A season full of development, getting a high pick,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/17/2018 11:59 am : link
& going all out for KD next summer.
RE: TH  
TyreeHelmet : 10/17/2018 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14132723 GiantsUA said:
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What don't you like about Kanter?


Not even as close to the level of THJ. But not a fan of his antics and his defense.
Yeah, Kanter's a bit much. Hate that he's become the team mascot.  
bceagle05 : 10/17/2018 12:27 pm : link
I give him credit for playing through injuries and being a good teammate though.

Let's face it, the only players on this roster who matter are KP, Frank, Knox, Robinson and Trier. If they create more salary cap space by moving Lee, MAYBE Burke or Hezonja could be brought back in a bench role going forward. Add another lottery pick and - hopefully - a legit player in free agency, and we'll actually have something here.
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arcarsenal : 10/17/2018 12:29 pm : link
Looking for the same things from the Knicks as I am the Rangers this year. I want to see a culture change, I want to see guys bust their butts every night. I want to see the young kids develop and improve.

Losing is fine. Both teams need the draft slot.

So far, so good with the Rangers - they've only won a couple of games, but they're competing with some pretty good teams and they're enjoyable to watch. It's refreshing. Hoping to see the same from the Knicks.

Next year forward is when we'll start to hopefully be concerned with the actual winning and losing part.
RE: RE: TH  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2018 12:56 pm : link
In comment 14132772 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 14132723 GiantsUA said:


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What don't you like about Kanter?



Not even as close to the level of THJ. But not a fan of his antics and his defense.


his defense was actually not bad during preseason, will never be a shot blocker but his positioning was good..
i thought it was interesting  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2018 12:57 pm : link
last night durant did an interview with chris haynes, same chris haynes who said knicks have a real shot at durant...

normally when a reporter says something about durant and it is wrong durant immediately shuns them and calls them a liar...

may mean absolutrly nothing but it was interesting to me
RE: Yeah, Kanter's a bit much. Hate that he's become the team mascot.  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2018 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14132813 bceagle05 said:
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I give him credit for playing through injuries and being a good teammate though.

Let's face it, the only players on this roster who matter are KP, Frank, Knox, Robinson and Trier. If they create more salary cap space by moving Lee, MAYBE Burke or Hezonja could be brought back in a bench role going forward. Add another lottery pick and - hopefully - a legit player in free agency, and we'll actually have something here.


if they get extra space i could see them bringing back kanter...

i also think the hope is to keep hezonja as well
I'm probably one of the few around here  
Beezer : 10/17/2018 1:01 pm : link
who actually likes Kanter a lot.
Durant randomly liked an Instagram post  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/17/2018 1:03 pm : link
where Ntilkina is getting the start at SF.
Kanter basically kept the offense  
Enzo : 10/17/2018 1:14 pm : link
functioning at an above average level in the first half of last season via his offensive rebounding and put-backs. I think he can help a lot of teams. If he develops 3 pt range, he can help even more.
RE: Kanter basically kept the offense  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2018 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14132898 Enzo said:
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functioning at an above average level in the first half of last season via his offensive rebounding and put-backs. I think he can help a lot of teams. If he develops 3 pt range, he can help even more.


he had a 20-20 game it basically 1 half of work in preseason this year
Kanter is fine for this team. I find him pretty watchable because he  
Heisenberg : 10/17/2018 1:26 pm : link
is such a good post scorer (flashback to the NBA of old) and a high effort guy. I just try to close my eyes when he is defending a pick and roll or he's needed for help defense.
I think it may have been a 20-29 game.  
Beezer : 10/17/2018 1:27 pm : link
:)
538 predicts the Knicks will be the worst team in the East,  
Del Shofner : 10/17/2018 4:10 pm : link
and tied with the Kings for worst in the NBA, with 23 wins.

Tonight may be one of the 23, so let's roll!
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DanMetroMan : 10/17/2018 4:19 pm : link
30. New York Knicks: 19.15

Starters: Trey Burke, Tim Hardaway Jr., Lance Thomas, Kevin Knox, Enes Kanter

Net Rating Together in 2017-18: N/A

This lineup could change massively throughout the season. Maybe the coaching staff turns to Frank Ntilikina as the starting point guard and gives him the long leash he deserves. Perhaps Mario Hezonja and Mitchell Robinson work their way into more prominent roles. Kristaps Porzingis could even return from his ACL tear, rather than sitting out the entirety of the 2018-19 campaign.

But only that final possibility would make a significant impact on these rankings. The Knicks are devoid of established high-end talent, instead turning to veteran castoffs and stat-stuffers such as Enes Kanter to fill the glaring hole left by the Latvian 7-footer. Still, throw Porzingis into the mix at the expense of Knox (who's struggled during the preseason), and the score rises to 23.37, pushing New York out of the basement and into the No. 27 position.
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if we could get  
Enzo : 10/17/2018 4:21 pm : link
Hardaway and Kanter off the team we'd be looking at a 15 win season. They're obviously not great players but Hardaway is going to have those random games where he makes a bunch of threes and Kanter is a handful if you don't have quality bigs.
fake trades I just made up:  
Enzo : 10/17/2018 4:31 pm : link
Kanter/Lee to Philly for Bayless/Chandler/Muscala (all expiring).

Downside for Philly is that Lee eats into their cap space for next summer.

Kanter/Lee to Wizards for Markieff Morris/Jason Smith/Austin Rivers (all expiring)

Wizards are capped out anyway so adding Lee's 19/20 money doesn't hurt.

Wouldnt Hardaway be kind of a good  
chopperhatch : 10/17/2018 5:12 pm : link
fit for Philly? Arent they in desperate need of another shooter?
Aren’t the 3 worst records evenly weighted now?  
Dave in PA : 10/17/2018 5:29 pm : link
They should find one of those draft spots pretty easily this year
KP  
TyreeHelmet : 10/17/2018 6:11 pm : link
I would be shocked if he played this year. I really don't see him risking injury without the extension and honestly I don't blame him.
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adamg : 10/17/2018 6:17 pm : link
In comment 14133194 DanMetroMan said:
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30. New York Knicks: 19.15

Starters: Trey Burke, Tim Hardaway Jr., Lance Thomas, Kevin Knox, Enes Kanter

Net Rating Together in 2017-18: N/A

This lineup could change massively throughout the season. Maybe the coaching staff turns to Frank Ntilikina as the starting point guard and gives him the long leash he deserves. Perhaps Mario Hezonja and Mitchell Robinson work their way into more prominent roles. Kristaps Porzingis could even return from his ACL tear, rather than sitting out the entirety of the 2018-19 campaign.

But only that final possibility would make a significant impact on these rankings. The Knicks are devoid of established high-end talent, instead turning to veteran castoffs and stat-stuffers such as Enes Kanter to fill the glaring hole left by the Latvian 7-footer. Still, throw Porzingis into the mix at the expense of Knox (who's struggled during the preseason), and the score rises to 23.37, pushing New York out of the basement and into the No. 27 position. Link - ( New Window )
Thought they said Frank is at the 3 and Thomas at the 4?
RE: Yeah, Kanter's a bit much. Hate that he's become the team mascot.  
adamg : 10/17/2018 6:18 pm : link
In comment 14132813 bceagle05 said:
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I give him credit for playing through injuries and being a good teammate though.

Let's face it, the only players on this roster who matter are KP, Frank, Knox, Robinson and Trier. If they create more salary cap space by moving Lee, MAYBE Burke or Hezonja could be brought back in a bench role going forward. Add another lottery pick and - hopefully - a legit player in free agency, and we'll actually have something here.
Not a Dotson fan?
RE: KP  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2018 6:23 pm : link
In comment 14133316 TyreeHelmet said:
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I would be shocked if he played this year. I really don't see him risking injury without the extension and honestly I don't blame him.


i think it depends, if the mnicks completely suck which is most likely case i think he plays maybe last 10 games...

if the knicks are somehow competing for a playoff spot i can see him coming back a little earlier
I like Dotson - I guess you could throw him in, too.  
bceagle05 : 10/17/2018 6:34 pm : link
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Del Shofner : 10/17/2018 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14133318 adamg said:
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Thought they said Frank is at the 3 and Thomas at the 4?


The quoted article is out of date. Frank is starting and Knox is not. Whether Frank is at the 3 or the 2 is not clear - it's been reported both ways. And it may not matter under Fiz's system.
Knicks starting lineup is the youngest opening night lineup in the NBA  
Del Shofner : 10/17/2018 7:11 pm : link
this year - 24 years and 155 days.
Fuck Lance Thomas  
B in ALB : 10/17/2018 7:20 pm : link
No one cares about your pregame chat with Cigarette Harlow.
^^^^  
Del Shofner : 10/17/2018 7:27 pm : link
haha...

Trey Burke covering Trae Young ... I dunno about that.
RE: Knicks starting lineup is the youngest opening night lineup in the NBA  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2018 7:28 pm : link
In comment 14133383 Del Shofner said:
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this year - 24 years and 155 days.


their entire roster is the youngest, with courtney lee on the roster
Season is finally here.  
bceagle05 : 10/17/2018 7:30 pm : link
And I kinda hope it flies by.
"We all in this together"  
GiantsUA : 10/17/2018 7:36 pm : link
"This Time it's gonna work"

Coach Fizz
RE: Season is finally here.  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2018 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14133403 bceagle05 said:
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And I kinda hope it flies by.


championship
Listening to Al trip all over himself  
B in ALB : 10/17/2018 7:41 pm : link
trying to run the propaganda game on fans is both hilarious and sad. They're gonna be Fucking Atrocious.
Lance Thomas gets introduced last. That's...sad.  
bceagle05 : 10/17/2018 7:44 pm : link
Godspeed, KP.
Clyde's first mispronunciation (Blazemore)  
bceagle05 : 10/17/2018 7:48 pm : link
And Timmy's first one-on-five break and brick - basketball is back!
THJ leading the tank  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/17/2018 7:52 pm : link
at maximum effort.
Trey Burke fucking sucks  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2018 7:52 pm : link
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Knicks an offensive juggernaut!  
Del Shofner : 10/17/2018 7:52 pm : link
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Nice if the Knicks could  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/17/2018 7:54 pm : link
make a shot....
It will be a very happy day  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2018 7:54 pm : link
when Hardaway, Burke, and Thomas are just bad memories.
Hardaway is a tough player to watch..  
Sean : 10/17/2018 7:55 pm : link
jacking up bricks left and right.
Michigan Men!  
B in ALB : 10/17/2018 7:56 pm : link
Puke.
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