Fantasy Football Discussion October 18, 2018

Or roll another week with Winston at home vs. Cleveland?

Corey Davis vs LAC
Wendell Smallwood vs CAR
Ito Smith vs NYG
Keke Coutee vs Jax

In comment 14134429 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 14134414 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 14134412 UConn4523 said: Quote: would you trade away Ingram and Ito Smith for Devante Adams? Depends on the other RB's and how much of an upgrade it would be at WR. I’ve got Green, Hill, Fuller, Godwin at WR. At RB it’s David Johnson, Michel, Ingram, Breida, K Johnson, Ito Smith, Lindsey. I can flex 2 so Adams would be my weekly permanent Flex or WR during BYES.

Given that team, if you have the opportunity to acquire Adams for the said players do it immediately.

Adams may end up being the #1 WR in fantasy this year. He's on a 16 TD pace and I had him for 14 TDs this year prior to the season. Yes I would do it.

Do you guys think Evan Engram will play? I know he "came close" to playing last week, but I fear they're going to keep him out one more game with the bye coming up.

In comment 14134436 Leg of Theismann said:

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Do you guys think Evan Engram will play? I know he "came close" to playing last week, but I fear they're going to keep him out one more game with the bye coming up.

I believe he will play.

In comment 14134431 Motley Two said:

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Or roll another week with Winston at home vs. Cleveland?

I’d go Winston. I’m not starting Brees I don’t think. Going to roll with Goff at San Fran.

In comment 14134417 pjcas18 said:

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in non-ppr. Christian Kirk or Keke Coutee. At this point as just a bench guy but might be pressed into action during bye week

Christian Kirk.

In comment 14134429 UConn4523 said:

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I’ve got Green, Hill, Fuller, Godwin at WR. At RB it’s David Johnson, Michel, Ingram, Breida, K Johnson, Ito Smith, Lindsey.

Was the trade vetoed???

In comment 14134425 Leg of Theismann said:

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(Note: I have Mahomes and Ryan as my QB1s in these two leagues, which is why I'm only asking for help with my QB2 decisions.) League 1 decision... need to pick my QB2 out of: Mayfield @ TB Trubisky v. NE Manning @ ATL In League 2, I need to pick my QB2 out of: Dalton @ KC Winston v. Browns Dalton clearly has a more favorable matchup, but Winston looked awesome in his first start off suspension and is home (was the #1 QB in fantasy in week 6). Need your wise opinions, my brothers!!! Thanks!

Trubisky and Dalton. That KC/Cinci game should be a fantasy point bonanza.

In comment 14134431 Motley Two said:

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Or roll another week with Winston at home vs. Cleveland?

Benching Brees isn't advisable.

In comment 14134433 Mr Brightside said:

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Corey Davis vs LAC Wendell Smallwood vs CAR Ito Smith vs NYG Keke Coutee vs Jax

Ugh. Probably Corey Davis. Could go Ito and hope for a rushing TD.

In comment 14134429 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 14134414 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 14134412 UConn4523 said: Quote: would you trade away Ingram and Ito Smith for Devante Adams? Depends on the other RB's and how much of an upgrade it would be at WR. I’ve got Green, Hill, Fuller, Godwin at WR. At RB it’s David Johnson, Michel, Ingram, Breida, K Johnson, Ito Smith, Lindsey. I can flex 2 so Adams would be my weekly permanent Flex or WR during BYES.

Absolutely, I'd make that trade. Adams hasn't been a portrait of health, but he's still producing.

My opponent is starting Stafford at QB and I'm starting Tate at WR and Golladay at FLEX. Is it a mistake or an advantage to be starting two receivers that your opponent's QB throws to? My other options at FLEX are Ridley, Lindsay, and Breida.

In comment 14134459 Milton said:

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My opponent is starting Stafford at QB and I'm starting Tate at WR and Golladay at FLEX. Is it a mistake or an advantage to be starting two receivers that your opponent's QB throws to? My other options at FLEX are Ridley, Lindsay, and Breida.

No. I've been starting Tate and Golladay all year together and it's been really good for me. That said, Breida is a good flex play this week, that's who I'd probably want.

If you were to pick two in a standard league out of:

Robert Woods @ Niners
Kenny Golladay @ Miami
Golden Tate @ Miami

How would you play that?

I also have Stafford at QB this week in this league.

In comment 14134467 allstarjim said:

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If you were to pick two in a standard league out of: Robert Woods @ Niners Kenny Golladay @ Miami Golden Tate @ Miami How would you play that? I also have Stafford at QB this week in this league.

With Kupp out... Woods because Goff's number 1. Also go with Golladay. He is their number 1 now.

I think both scenarios are coin flips. It's not like Brady is money in the bank. He has his share of clunkers when it comes to fantasy points. And @Chicago fits the profile of a potential clunker. Dalton may not make you feel all warm and fuzzy, but it's gonna be a shoot out in KC.

As for the Winston side of it, he had a great game last week, but it's too early to know what you have in him. Was last week a harbinger or does he come back down to earth now that teams have more film on him with this year's set of tools to work with? Personally, I don't like the guy as a person and it prejudices my opinion of him as a football player, so I'll "recuse" myself from giving advice.

In comment 14134444 allstarjim said:

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In comment 14134425 Leg of Theismann said: Quote: (Note: I have Mahomes and Ryan as my QB1s in these two leagues, which is why I'm only asking for help with my QB2 decisions.) League 1 decision... need to pick my QB2 out of: Mayfield @ TB Trubisky v. NE Manning @ ATL In League 2, I need to pick my QB2 out of: Dalton @ KC Winston v. Browns Dalton clearly has a more favorable matchup, but Winston looked awesome in his first start off suspension and is home (was the #1 QB in fantasy in week 6). Need your wise opinions, my brothers!!! Thanks! Trubisky and Dalton. That KC/Cinci game should be a fantasy point bonanza.

Exactly what I have in my lineup, perfect. I'll leave it as is. Thanks, man!

Trey Burton vs NE or OJ Howard vs TB. Thanks.

In comment 14134548 davek3698 said:

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Trey Burton vs NE or OJ Howard vs TB. Thanks.

OJ Howard vs Cleveland you mean of course. Cleveland has been a little tougher on tight ends this year but I think you have to play Howard due to his speed and big play potential. Both Burton and Howard have just 15 catches this year, but Howard has turned those catches into 284 yards vs just 199 for Burton.

I'm a Burton guy, too, but I'd go Howard this time.

If you can get your hands on Njoku, the Buccaneers have been extraordinarily bad against the TE position, allowing 486 yards and 3 TDs to TEs in just 5 games. Ertz, Vance McDonald, Burton, and Austin Hooper have all burned them.

In comment 14134477 dep026 said:

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In comment 14134467 allstarjim said: Quote: If you were to pick two in a standard league out of: Robert Woods @ Niners Kenny Golladay @ Miami Golden Tate @ Miami How would you play that? I also have Stafford at QB this week in this league. With Kupp out... Woods because Goff's number 1. Also go with Golladay. He is their number 1 now.

That's what I have in there. I think I'll keep it.

might not be worthy enough to switch him to Tate, but I think Golladay's upside could be limited this week. A TD would still likely make him better than Tate though.

In comment 14134615 YAJ2112 said:

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might not be worthy enough to switch him to Tate, but I think Golladay's upside could be limited this week. A TD would still likely make him better than Tate though.

Where do you see that Howard will shadow Golladay?

In comment 14134619 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 14134615 YAJ2112 said: Quote: might not be worthy enough to switch him to Tate, but I think Golladay's upside could be limited this week. A TD would still likely make him better than Tate though. Where do you see that Howard will shadow Golladay?

I don't know that he's going to shadow him for sure, but he will be on Golladay/Jones and not Tate.

In comment 14134620 YAJ2112 said:

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In comment 14134619 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 14134615 YAJ2112 said: Quote: might not be worthy enough to switch him to Tate, but I think Golladay's upside could be limited this week. A TD would still likely make him better than Tate though. Where do you see that Howard will shadow Golladay? I don't know that he's going to shadow him for sure, but he will be on Golladay/Jones and not Tate.

Right, Fitzptrick will be on Tate I believe.

Detroit is interesting to defend because they have three quality WR's.

I am debating Kerryon Johnson or Golladay as my flex.

I was hoping McTyer mostly covered Golladay. Howard is better, but if it's Howard I think it will be single coverage. Safety help going to cover Jones IMO.

In comment 14134568 allstarjim said:

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In comment 14134548 davek3698 said: Quote: Trey Burton vs NE or OJ Howard vs TB. Thanks. OJ Howard vs Cleveland you mean of course. Cleveland has been a little tougher on tight ends this year but I think you have to play Howard due to his speed and big play potential. Both Burton and Howard have just 15 catches this year, but Howard has turned those catches into 284 yards vs just 199 for Burton. I'm a Burton guy, too, but I'd go Howard this time. If you can get your hands on Njoku, the Buccaneers have been extraordinarily bad against the TE position, allowing 486 yards and 3 TDs to TEs in just 5 games. Ertz, Vance McDonald, Burton, and Austin Hooper have all burned them.

Allstarjim, just a follow up on the TE question. Was all over Njoku this week, but I have Kittle and Engram. Like the potential in Atlanta on Monday night. How would you rank them this week??? Njoku, Kittle and Engram that is....

Thanks

Lindsey, Ito Smith and Fuller for Hopkins and Lynch was vetoed so I ended up making that above deal, Ingram and Ito Smith for Adams. I feel good about it, still have 5 RBs that I’m comfortable starting and get a huge upgrade at WR.

In comment 14134637 UConn4523 said:

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Lindsey, Ito Smith and Fuller for Hopkins and Lynch was vetoed so I ended up making that above deal, Ingram and Ito Smith for Adams. I feel good about it, still have 5 RBs that I’m comfortable starting and get a huge upgrade at WR.

I wouldn't be in that league another year. Why would they veto that? You should see some of the trade in my league.

We have some dumb owners.

that no matter what happens, if I’m involved they will collectively argue the opposite. I’m convinced if it was 2 other people making that trade it would be “ehh, that’s lopsided but whatever”.

I won’t leave the league, it’s all my good friends, but they can get very petty if a good team wins a trade. Generally it doesn’t result in vetos (probably because I rarely trade) but this time they all went apeshit.

In comment 14134637 UConn4523 said:

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Lindsey, Ito Smith and Fuller for Hopkins and Lynch was vetoed so I ended up making that above deal, Ingram and Ito Smith for Adams. I feel good about it, still have 5 RBs that I’m comfortable starting and get a huge upgrade at WR.

Still a steal, maybe every bit the steal that the original trade was. The love affair with Ingram is based upon one game back that I don't believe was indicative of what the Ingram-Kamara timeshare will be going forward. And you went from Deshaun Watson's #1 target to Aaron Rodgers's #1 target and you get to keep Lindsay. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Lindsay is putting up more points than Ingram come December. One is sharing snaps with Kamara, the other with Royce Freeman (and occasionally Booker).

Ingram probably gets 15 touches per game if I had to guess. The kicker is he becomes an elite RB if Kamara ever goes down but you can’t back on that of course.

I love that I’m keeping Lindsay, fun player to watch and he’s the guy on the field more when they play from behind and also gets goal line work. If they finally stop giving carries to Booker he’d be a weekly Flex option, possibly an RB2.

if Reddick is out I think I’m playing him.

In comment 14134635 OBJRoyal said:

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In comment 14134568 allstarjim said: Quote: In comment 14134548 davek3698 said: Quote: Trey Burton vs NE or OJ Howard vs TB. Thanks. OJ Howard vs Cleveland you mean of course. Cleveland has been a little tougher on tight ends this year but I think you have to play Howard due to his speed and big play potential. Both Burton and Howard have just 15 catches this year, but Howard has turned those catches into 284 yards vs just 199 for Burton. I'm a Burton guy, too, but I'd go Howard this time. If you can get your hands on Njoku, the Buccaneers have been extraordinarily bad against the TE position, allowing 486 yards and 3 TDs to TEs in just 5 games. Ertz, Vance McDonald, Burton, and Austin Hooper have all burned them. Allstarjim, just a follow up on the TE question. Was all over Njoku this week, but I have Kittle and Engram. Like the potential in Atlanta on Monday night. How would you rank them this week??? Njoku, Kittle and Engram that is.... Thanks

Even though I like Engram as a fantasy TE and a good matchup with a defense starting 2 second string safeties and 2nd string MLB, I still think he should be benched out of that group for the following reasons:

He's at best the #3 passing game target in that offense.
The Giants passing game and offense in general is very inefficient and they struggle to sustain drives and score points most of the time. I do think this week could be a good one for the offense, but...

Kittle has been very consistent all year as a target for Beathard and Jimmy G. He's the #5 fantasy TE thus far. On the flip side, even though the Rams have allowed some decent yardage to TEs (401 yards through 6 games), they have yet to allow a TD, and I like that defensive front's ability to severely disrupt Beathard and that Niner offense this weekend.

Then there is Njoku. The Tampa defense has been an absolute sieve to all pass-catchers, including tight ends, and combine that with the fact that Njoku has led the Browns with 22 targets in the last two weeks...I think this is going to be a big game for Njoku this week. Definitely high end fantasy TE #1.

In comment 14134734 allstarjim said:

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In comment 14134635 OBJRoyal said: Quote: In comment 14134568 allstarjim said: Quote: In comment 14134548 davek3698 said: Quote: Trey Burton vs NE or OJ Howard vs TB. Thanks. OJ Howard vs Cleveland you mean of course. Cleveland has been a little tougher on tight ends this year but I think you have to play Howard due to his speed and big play potential. Both Burton and Howard have just 15 catches this year, but Howard has turned those catches into 284 yards vs just 199 for Burton. I'm a Burton guy, too, but I'd go Howard this time. If you can get your hands on Njoku, the Buccaneers have been extraordinarily bad against the TE position, allowing 486 yards and 3 TDs to TEs in just 5 games. Ertz, Vance McDonald, Burton, and Austin Hooper have all burned them. Allstarjim, just a follow up on the TE question. Was all over Njoku this week, but I have Kittle and Engram. Like the potential in Atlanta on Monday night. How would you rank them this week??? Njoku, Kittle and Engram that is.... Thanks Even though I like Engram as a fantasy TE and a good matchup with a defense starting 2 second string safeties and 2nd string MLB, I still think he should be benched out of that group for the following reasons: He's at best the #3 passing game target in that offense. The Giants passing game and offense in general is very inefficient and they struggle to sustain drives and score points most of the time. I do think this week could be a good one for the offense, but... Kittle has been very consistent all year as a target for Beathard and Jimmy G. He's the #5 fantasy TE thus far. On the flip side, even though the Rams have allowed some decent yardage to TEs (401 yards through 6 games), they have yet to allow a TD, and I like that defensive front's ability to severely disrupt Beathard and that Niner offense this weekend. Then there is Njoku. The Tampa defense has been an absolute sieve to all pass-catchers, including tight ends, and combine that with the fact that Njoku has led the Browns with 22 targets in the last two weeks...I think this is going to be a big game for Njoku this week. Definitely high end fantasy TE #1.

Much thanks!! Njoku it is

I see your all in on Brees, saying to “trust your stars”. Most of the websites I use for rankings have him 10 and lower. Not that I would bench Brees, but this seems to be a difficult matchup. He’s on the road and playing the #1 defense against QB’s, even though they haven’t faced many good QBs.

What’s your thoughts as to why play him??

In comment 14134753 OBJRoyal said:

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I see your all in on Brees, saying to “trust your stars”. Most of the websites I use for rankings have him 10 and lower. Not that I would bench Brees, but this seems to be a difficult matchup. He’s on the road and playing the #1 defense against QB’s, even though they haven’t faced many good QBs. What’s your thoughts as to why play him??

I'm starting Brees over Rivers. The Ravens shut down Roethlisberger but were lit up by Dalton.

Like you, the "experts" I trust most have Rivers ahead of Brees. For me the tie-breaker was Rivers playing in London at 6:30AM California time.

In comment 14134763 Milton said:

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In comment 14134753 OBJRoyal said: Quote: I see your all in on Brees, saying to “trust your stars”. Most of the websites I use for rankings have him 10 and lower. Not that I would bench Brees, but this seems to be a difficult matchup. He’s on the road and playing the #1 defense against QB’s, even though they haven’t faced many good QBs. What’s your thoughts as to why play him?? I'm starting Brees over Rivers. The Ravens shut down Roethlisberger but were lit up by Dalton.

Thanks Milton. Outside of those two, the rest of the QBs to face the Ravens are garbage. I kinda like Brees and SP coming off the bye with extra time to prepare.

Just wondering, always looking for extra insight!!

which was also on the road. They have the #1 pass defense and Brees on the road against them is worrisome. I’m starting Goff at San Fran over him.

I’ve got to play either Kerryon Johnson at Miami or Lindsay tonight at Arizona. Not really sure what to do. I’ve already got David Johnson tonight and multiple players on short rest is annoying. The kicker is it will make me watch the game...

In comment 14134793 UConn4523 said:

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which was also on the road. They have the #1 pass defense and Brees on the road against them is worrisome. I’m starting Goff at San Fran over him.

Great point!! Hmmmm

In comment 14134796 UConn4523 said:

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I’ve got to play either Kerryon Johnson at Miami or Lindsay tonight at Arizona. Not really sure what to do. I’ve already got David Johnson tonight and multiple players on short rest is annoying. The kicker is it will make me watch the game...

That’s a tough one, Denver loves Lindsay tho

In comment 14134793 UConn4523 said:

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which was also on the road. They have the #1 pass defense and Brees on the road against them is worrisome. I’m starting Goff at San Fran over him.

I have Winston on standby, he has the Browns at home.

it’s gong to be low 50’s and sunny so I doubt the weather is a factor. It’s just one of if not the worst matchup for him on the season. If you were ever going to bench him, this week would be it. The rest of his schedule is a joke for fantasy purposes.

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Glad I picked them up!! Keep throwing pick 6’s Rosen!!

In comment 14134045 dep026 said:

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and for the year. I need wins. I have to stream defenses even though its going to be costly. I choose Denver over Miami, Dallas, and Indy. Hope it works out.

Boo-ya

In comment 14134887 dep026 said:

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In comment 14134045 dep026 said: Quote: and for the year. I need wins. I have to stream defenses even though its going to be costly. I choose Denver over Miami, Dallas, and Indy. Hope it works out. Boo-ya

Oh yeah, Boo-ya

We're three quarters into the game and DJ has received only one target. And it's not like it was unsuccessful, it went for 9 yards.

Meanwhile I have Lindsay sitting on my bench today.