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MadPlaid : 10/18/2018 9:39 am
Hi,

Let's discuss who should we start this week? I'll go first.

Would you bench Brady, and start Dalton in his place? Brady is on the road at Chicago, while Dalton is at KC. I'm leaning towards going with Dalton because almost every QB who has played the Chiefs this year have had great fantasy weeks. Too tempting to resist. Am I insane for benching the GOAT? TD's are 6, and interceptions are -3.

In addition who would you start at my Flex position? Non-PPR league:

P. Barber v. Cle
C. Davis @ LAC
M. Mack v. Buf
C. Godwin v. Cle

Presently, I am starting Barber. RB against a suspect run D makes the most sense to me. Barber broke out last week, and I see good things in his future. I hope.

What do you think? Any feedback is welcome and appreciated.

Best of luck to you all, and thank you.
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I'd start Brady over Dalton  
YAJ2112 : 10/18/2018 9:46 am : link
and sleep like a baby
I'd go Barber over Mack  
YAJ2112 : 10/18/2018 9:49 am : link
for the flex. Should be a lot of points in TB-CLE. I think Mack is startable vs Buf, as Indy should win. But I feel better about Barber.
Thanks, Yaj  
MadPlaid : 10/18/2018 9:58 am : link
That is my feeling too regarding Barber. Helps that they are home for this one. Godwin is very tempting considering he's proving to be a Touchdown Maker.

The QB situation is tough though. Dalton has a tremendous matchup. I could see him throwing for multiple TDs. Brady is Brady, so benching him seems nuts. He did produce a dud against a suspect D in Detroit, so he makes me nervous with his matchup in Chicago. A much better defense. Although, they were just torn up by Osweiler, and Mack is dealing with an ankle injury. I'm probably over thinking this.

Sleep like a baby? I wish I had your confidence. Best
RE: I'd go Barber over Mack  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 10:03 am : link
In comment 14133935 YAJ2112 said:
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for the flex. Should be a lot of points in TB-CLE. I think Mack is startable vs Buf, as Indy should win. But I feel better about Barber.


I agree with YAJ on Barber and Brady.
Thank you, allstar  
MadPlaid : 10/18/2018 10:05 am : link
Yep, I am overthinking this.

Best of luck to you both.
Dalton has 5 games over the last 3 years with 3+ pass TDs  
YAJ2112 : 10/18/2018 10:10 am : link
Brady has 15.

The Bears D is pretty good, but they aren't anywhere near the dominant D that even Jacksonville was last year.

The KC D is really bad, but they are also getting torched on the ground as much as in the air. Mixon could easily run for 150+ and a couple of TDs.
Agree with YAJ and ASJ  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2018 10:25 am : link
PPR flex candidate:

Clement vs CAR
or
Drake vs DET

Have Clement in now, but think they're pretty even.
RE: Agree with YAJ and ASJ  
MadPlaid : 10/18/2018 10:27 am : link
In comment 14134010 pjcas18 said:
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PPR flex candidate:

Clement vs CAR
or
Drake vs DET

Have Clement in now, but think they're pretty even.

I think Clement is the way to go. Safer bet at present.
RB and R/W/T advice, please  
davek3698 : 10/18/2018 10:30 am : link
.5 PPR league.
Two RBs from James White, Dalvin Cook, Mark Ingram, Lamar Miller or Marlin Mack.
One R/W/T from Alshon Jeffrey, Sterling Shepard or one of the leftover RBs above.
Thanks guys….
Alshon Jeffrey  
dep026 : 10/18/2018 10:31 am : link
is a must start.
Who has more value for the rest of the season as FLEX  
Heisenberg : 10/18/2018 10:44 am : link
J. Allen (currently on my bench)

or

Dion Lewis
Robby Anderson
Christian Kirk
RE: RB and R/W/T advice, please  
YAJ2112 : 10/18/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 14134023 davek3698 said:
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.5 PPR league.
Two RBs from James White, Dalvin Cook, Mark Ingram, Lamar Miller or Marlin Mack.
One R/W/T from Alshon Jeffrey, Sterling Shepard or one of the leftover RBs above.
Thanks guys….


Yeah, clearly Jeffrey for your flex.

For the 2 RBs it's clearly between the first 3, the other guys are trash in comparison.

I'd go Ingram and White. I'd love to say Cook over White, but I simply can't trust Cook until I see him get a full workload and there's no need to risk it when you have a guy with White's floor.
RE: Agree with YAJ and ASJ  
YAJ2112 : 10/18/2018 10:47 am : link
In comment 14134010 pjcas18 said:
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PPR flex candidate:

Clement vs CAR
or
Drake vs DET

Have Clement in now, but think they're pretty even.


I'd probably lean slightly to Drake, but I agree they are basically even.
I am going to pay the piper this week  
dep026 : 10/18/2018 10:48 am : link
and for the year. I need wins. I have to stream defenses even though its going to be costly.

I choose Denver over Miami, Dallas, and Indy. Hope it works out.
RE: Who has more value for the rest of the season as FLEX  
YAJ2112 : 10/18/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 14134039 Heisenberg said:
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J. Allen (currently on my bench)

or

Dion Lewis
Robby Anderson
Christian Kirk


PPR? If so, I think Kirk scores the most points and is the most consistent of the options. Also depends on how deep you are at RB though.
Would love to get some thoughts on this possible trade  
Giants in 07 : 10/18/2018 10:57 am : link
Beckham Jr
Smith-Schuster
C. Thompson

for

Antonio Brown
Tyler Lockett
Jordan Howard
RE: Would love to get some thoughts on this possible trade  
UConn4523 : 10/18/2018 10:59 am : link
In comment 14134066 Giants in 07 said:
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Beckham Jr
Smith-Schuster
C. Thompson

for

Antonio Brown
Tyler Lockett
Jordan Howard


Anntonio Brown side is getting jobbed especially in a PPR.
RE: RE: Would love to get some thoughts on this possible trade  
Giants in 07 : 10/18/2018 11:03 am : link
In comment 14134069 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14134066 Giants in 07 said:


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Beckham Jr
Smith-Schuster
C. Thompson

for

Antonio Brown
Tyler Lockett
Jordan Howard



Anntonio Brown side is getting jobbed especially in a PPR.


Thanks, I thought so too. I'm not sure it's veto-able though. I'm generally a fan of letting people do what they want with their teams
yeah thats definitely not vetoable  
UConn4523 : 10/18/2018 11:06 am : link
but Schuster is going to put up similar total points as Brown and Beckham is infinitely better than Lockett. And I'd rather have Thompson than Howard even in a non-PPR - a full PPR and it isn't close.
Fantasy recs inbound  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 11:07 am : link
In comment 14134010 pjcas18 said:
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PPR flex candidate:

Clement vs CAR
or
Drake vs DET

Have Clement in now, but think they're pretty even.


Clement. Really like the way Philly is using him through the air as well as the run game and their offense is very efficient right now.

In comment 14134023 davek3698 said:
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RE: RB and R/W/T advice, please .5 PPR league.
Two RBs from James White, Dalvin Cook, Mark Ingram, Lamar Miller or Marlin Mack.
One R/W/T from Alshon Jeffrey, Sterling Shepard or one of the leftover RBs above.
Thanks guys….


You have to play White despite the matchup. He's so involved in that offense and this is at all a PPR league, he's one of the top PPR fantasy RBs, at #7 on the season, ahead of guys like McCaffrey and Kareem Hunt. And I'd go Ingram on the other one, yes, another terrible matchup but I do trust Drew Brees and his efficiency to open things up for Ingram and he is a threat in the pass game as well a bit. Cook you just have to wait until he's all the way back and trust that Minnesota is going to give him the full complement of snaps. Marlon Mack and Lamar Miller...just not anywhere in the same discussion as the other three guys right now. And I'd also put Jeffery in your flex with confidence.

In comment 14134039 Heisenberg said:
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Who has more value for the rest of the season as FLEX: J. Allen (currently on my bench)

or

Dion Lewis
Robby Anderson
Christian Kirk


Christian Kirk, actually. He's the clear #1 target for Rosen and he is a dynamic playmaker. I actually drafted Kirk in a deep league based on what I saw in preseason. Guy I think is going to be a star, and he's really developing that chemistry with Rosen early. Cards also have a pretty favorable schedule.
RE: yeah thats definitely not vetoable  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 14134084 UConn4523 said:
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but Schuster is going to put up similar total points as Brown and Beckham is infinitely better than Lockett. And I'd rather have Thompson than Howard even in a non-PPR - a full PPR and it isn't close.


Exactly this. The team getting Beckham, JSS, and Thompson wins that trade by a lot.
Any Chubb owners still hanging on?  
Eli Wilson : 10/18/2018 11:16 am : link
I've kept him on my team and they keep threatening to play him more, but it hasn't happened yet.
RE: Any Chubb owners still hanging on?  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 11:23 am : link
In comment 14134095 Eli Wilson said:
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I've kept him on my team and they keep threatening to play him more, but it hasn't happened yet.


I would still do so if possible. I had to let him go because of bye week problems. However, if he's still available on the other side of them, I'm going to look to pick him back up.
I waived Chubb  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2018 11:24 am : link
last week when I had 2 Saints and 2 Lions on byes.

he's still available

it's a keeper league, so I may add him back soon. If he has a good second half, he'd be keepable for an 8th round pick should that be my best option.
RE: RE: Who has more value for the rest of the season as FLEX  
Heisenberg : 10/18/2018 12:00 pm : link
In comment 14134047 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 14134039 Heisenberg said:


Quote:


J. Allen (currently on my bench)

or

Dion Lewis
Robby Anderson
Christian Kirk



PPR? If so, I think Kirk scores the most points and is the most consistent of the options. Also depends on how deep you are at RB though.


Pretty deep: Gurley, DJohnson, Carson/MDavis, Ito Smith.
RE: RE: RE: Who has more value for the rest of the season as FLEX  
YAJ2112 : 10/18/2018 12:56 pm : link
In comment 14134187 Heisenberg said:
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In comment 14134047 YAJ2112 said:


Quote:


In comment 14134039 Heisenberg said:


Quote:


J. Allen (currently on my bench)

or

Dion Lewis
Robby Anderson
Christian Kirk



PPR? If so, I think Kirk scores the most points and is the most consistent of the options. Also depends on how deep you are at RB though.



Pretty deep: Gurley, DJohnson, Carson/MDavis, Ito Smith.


Well then Scotty, beam up Captain Kirk!
In a .5 PPR  
UConn4523 : 10/18/2018 2:06 pm : link
would you trade away Ingram and Ito Smith for Devante Adams?
RE: In a .5 PPR  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2018 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14134412 UConn4523 said:
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would you trade away Ingram and Ito Smith for Devante Adams?


Depends on the other RB's and how much of an upgrade it would be at WR.

Who would you prefer  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2018 2:08 pm : link
in non-ppr.

Christian Kirk or Keke Coutee.

At this point as just a bench guy but might be pressed into action during bye week
Hey, guys need some help, I'm in two separate 2 QB leagues...  
Leg of Theismann : 10/18/2018 2:16 pm : link
(Note: I have Mahomes and Ryan as my QB1s in these two leagues, which is why I'm only asking for help with my QB2 decisions.)

League 1 decision... need to pick my QB2 out of:

Mayfield @ TB
Trubisky v. NE
Manning @ ATL

In League 2, I need to pick my QB2 out of:

Dalton @ KC
Winston v. Browns

Dalton clearly has a more favorable matchup, but Winston looked awesome in his first start off suspension and is home (was the #1 QB in fantasy in week 6).

Need your wise opinions, my brothers!!! Thanks!
RE: RE: In a .5 PPR  
UConn4523 : 10/18/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14134414 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14134412 UConn4523 said:


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would you trade away Ingram and Ito Smith for Devante Adams?



Depends on the other RB's and how much of an upgrade it would be at WR.


I’ve got Green, Hill, Fuller, Godwin at WR. At RB it’s David Johnson, Michel, Ingram, Breida, K Johnson, Ito Smith, Lindsey.

I can flex 2 so Adams would be my weekly permanent Flex or WR during BYES.
Back to Brees @ Baltimore  
Motley Two : 10/18/2018 2:20 pm : link
Or roll another week with Winston at home vs. Cleveland?
Need a flex...0.5 PPR  
Mr Brightside : 10/18/2018 2:21 pm : link
Corey Davis vs LAC
Wendell Smallwood vs CAR
Ito Smith vs NYG
Keke Coutee vs Jax
RE: RE: RE: In a .5 PPR  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 2:21 pm : link
In comment 14134429 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14134414 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


In comment 14134412 UConn4523 said:


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would you trade away Ingram and Ito Smith for Devante Adams?



Depends on the other RB's and how much of an upgrade it would be at WR.




I’ve got Green, Hill, Fuller, Godwin at WR. At RB it’s David Johnson, Michel, Ingram, Breida, K Johnson, Ito Smith, Lindsey.

I can flex 2 so Adams would be my weekly permanent Flex or WR during BYES.


Given that team, if you have the opportunity to acquire Adams for the said players do it immediately.

Adams may end up being the #1 WR in fantasy this year. He's on a 16 TD pace and I had him for 14 TDs this year prior to the season. Yes I would do it.
Also,  
Leg of Theismann : 10/18/2018 2:21 pm : link
Do you guys think Evan Engram will play? I know he "came close" to playing last week, but I fear they're going to keep him out one more game with the bye coming up.
RE: Also,  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14134436 Leg of Theismann said:
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Do you guys think Evan Engram will play? I know he "came close" to playing last week, but I fear they're going to keep him out one more game with the bye coming up.


I believe he will play.
RE: Back to Brees @ Baltimore  
UConn4523 : 10/18/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14134431 Motley Two said:
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Or roll another week with Winston at home vs. Cleveland?


I’d go Winston. I’m not starting Brees I don’t think. Going to roll with Goff at San Fran.
RE: Who would you prefer  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14134417 pjcas18 said:
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in non-ppr.

Christian Kirk or Keke Coutee.

At this point as just a bench guy but might be pressed into action during bye week


Christian Kirk.
RE: RE: RE: In a .5 PPR  
Milton : 10/18/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 14134429 UConn4523 said:
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I’ve got Green, Hill, Fuller, Godwin at WR. At RB it’s David Johnson, Michel, Ingram, Breida, K Johnson, Ito Smith, Lindsey.

Was the trade vetoed???
RE: Hey, guys need some help, I'm in two separate 2 QB leagues...  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 14134425 Leg of Theismann said:
Quote:
(Note: I have Mahomes and Ryan as my QB1s in these two leagues, which is why I'm only asking for help with my QB2 decisions.)

League 1 decision... need to pick my QB2 out of:

Mayfield @ TB
Trubisky v. NE
Manning @ ATL

In League 2, I need to pick my QB2 out of:

Dalton @ KC
Winston v. Browns

Dalton clearly has a more favorable matchup, but Winston looked awesome in his first start off suspension and is home (was the #1 QB in fantasy in week 6).

Need your wise opinions, my brothers!!! Thanks!


Trubisky and Dalton. That KC/Cinci game should be a fantasy point bonanza.
RE: Back to Brees @ Baltimore  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14134431 Motley Two said:
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Or roll another week with Winston at home vs. Cleveland?


Benching Brees isn't advisable.
RE: Need a flex...0.5 PPR  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 2:27 pm : link
In comment 14134433 Mr Brightside said:
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Corey Davis vs LAC
Wendell Smallwood vs CAR
Ito Smith vs NYG
Keke Coutee vs Jax


Ugh. Probably Corey Davis. Could go Ito and hope for a rushing TD.
RE: RE: RE: In a .5 PPR  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2018 2:30 pm : link
In comment 14134429 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14134414 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


In comment 14134412 UConn4523 said:


Quote:


would you trade away Ingram and Ito Smith for Devante Adams?



Depends on the other RB's and how much of an upgrade it would be at WR.




I’ve got Green, Hill, Fuller, Godwin at WR. At RB it’s David Johnson, Michel, Ingram, Breida, K Johnson, Ito Smith, Lindsey.

I can flex 2 so Adams would be my weekly permanent Flex or WR during BYES.


Absolutely, I'd make that trade. Adams hasn't been a portrait of health, but he's still producing.
In a 12-team PPR league...  
Milton : 10/18/2018 2:31 pm : link
My opponent is starting Stafford at QB and I'm starting Tate at WR and Golladay at FLEX. Is it a mistake or an advantage to be starting two receivers that your opponent's QB throws to? My other options at FLEX are Ridley, Lindsay, and Breida.
RE: In a 12-team PPR league...  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14134459 Milton said:
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My opponent is starting Stafford at QB and I'm starting Tate at WR and Golladay at FLEX. Is it a mistake or an advantage to be starting two receivers that your opponent's QB throws to? My other options at FLEX are Ridley, Lindsay, and Breida.


No. I've been starting Tate and Golladay all year together and it's been really good for me. That said, Breida is a good flex play this week, that's who I'd probably want.
Speaking of Golladay and Tate  
allstarjim : 10/18/2018 2:36 pm : link
If you were to pick two in a standard league out of:

Robert Woods @ Niners
Kenny Golladay @ Miami
Golden Tate @ Miami

How would you play that?

I also have Stafford at QB this week in this league.
RE: Speaking of Golladay and Tate  
dep026 : 10/18/2018 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14134467 allstarjim said:
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If you were to pick two in a standard league out of:

Robert Woods @ Niners
Kenny Golladay @ Miami
Golden Tate @ Miami

How would you play that?

I also have Stafford at QB this week in this league.


With Kupp out... Woods because Goff's number 1. Also go with Golladay. He is their number 1 now.
As for the Dalton vs Brady and Dalton vs Winston  
Milton : 10/18/2018 2:47 pm : link
I think both scenarios are coin flips. It's not like Brady is money in the bank. He has his share of clunkers when it comes to fantasy points. And @Chicago fits the profile of a potential clunker. Dalton may not make you feel all warm and fuzzy, but it's gonna be a shoot out in KC.

As for the Winston side of it, he had a great game last week, but it's too early to know what you have in him. Was last week a harbinger or does he come back down to earth now that teams have more film on him with this year's set of tools to work with? Personally, I don't like the guy as a person and it prejudices my opinion of him as a football player, so I'll "recuse" myself from giving advice.
RE: RE: Hey, guys need some help, I'm in two separate 2 QB leagues...  
Leg of Theismann : 10/18/2018 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14134444 allstarjim said:
Quote:
In comment 14134425 Leg of Theismann said:


Quote:


(Note: I have Mahomes and Ryan as my QB1s in these two leagues, which is why I'm only asking for help with my QB2 decisions.)

League 1 decision... need to pick my QB2 out of:

Mayfield @ TB
Trubisky v. NE
Manning @ ATL

In League 2, I need to pick my QB2 out of:

Dalton @ KC
Winston v. Browns

Dalton clearly has a more favorable matchup, but Winston looked awesome in his first start off suspension and is home (was the #1 QB in fantasy in week 6).

Need your wise opinions, my brothers!!! Thanks!



Trubisky and Dalton. That KC/Cinci game should be a fantasy point bonanza.


Exactly what I have in my lineup, perfect. I'll leave it as is. Thanks, man!
TE advice, please  
davek3698 : 10/18/2018 3:33 pm : link
Trey Burton vs NE or OJ Howard vs TB. Thanks.
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