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NFT: 10/19: Knicks (1-0) vs Nets (0-1)

LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/19/2018 8:28 am


Tip Off at 7:30pm

Projected Starters

Burke
Hardaway
Ntilikina
LFT
Kanter

vs

DLo Russell
Joe Harris
LeVert
Hollis-Jefferson
J. Allen


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PRETTY PASS FROM BURKE TO KANTER  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:54 pm : link
There ya go!
Kanter!  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 9:54 pm : link
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Fun game.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:55 pm : link
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I know he's not great defensively  
PetesHereNow : 10/19/2018 9:56 pm : link
but I admire how much Kanter wants to be a Knick and how he gives his all.
I like Kanter  
adamg : 10/19/2018 9:57 pm : link
I would try to keep him and make room for a max deal. I imagine both moves are possible, no?
Shitty D by THJ  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:57 pm : link
And where was the help in the paint?
ANd that out of bounds review changed the game  
adamg : 10/19/2018 9:58 pm : link
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what is clyde talking about?  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:59 pm : link
they can catch and shoot
However it ends  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/19/2018 9:59 pm : link
this Knick team plays harder than in the recent past. Fun to watch.
RE: ANd that out of bounds review changed the game  
Mike in NY : 10/19/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 14136319 adamg said:
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Or the “flagrant” foul
Why is Hardaway covering  
chopperhatch : 10/19/2018 9:59 pm : link
Their best scorer there? Should have been Frank IMO
Game over  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 10:00 pm : link
Disappointing loss
oh well -  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 10:01 pm : link
work in progress ...
RE: Why is Hardaway covering  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14136324 chopperhatch said:
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Their best scorer there? Should have been Frank IMO


I was wondering about that too.
any quesrion knox should start now?  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:01 pm : link
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i thibk robinson should of been in the game  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:02 pm : link
i know he is cold but he would of blocked that...

and give credit where it is due levert hit a prayer 3 and that was a tough shot he hit to win it
RE: any quesrion knox should start now?  
chopperhatch : 10/19/2018 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14136328 nygiants16 said:
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Absolutely. And Rin Baker should be next to Lance Thomas on the end of the bench
Oh well.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 10:03 pm : link
Liked what I saw from Knox. Frank continues to flash some offense. Kanter's playing like an All-Star.
That flagrant foul was  
chopperhatch : 10/19/2018 10:04 pm : link
a piss poor call.
RE: i thibk robinson should of been in the game  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14136329 nygiants16 said:
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i know he is cold but he would of blocked that...

and give credit where it is due levert hit a prayer 3 and that was a tough shot he hit to win it


Robinson may not be 100% yet but I agree we need him. Also given the rebounding disadvantage. We're playing three guards and a small forward most of the time - the C has to be a real rebounder. Vonleh is good but he is another forward.
RE: RE: i thibk robinson should of been in the game  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14136335 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 14136329 nygiants16 said:


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i know he is cold but he would of blocked that...

and give credit where it is due levert hit a prayer 3 and that was a tough shot he hit to win it



Robinson may not be 100% yet but I agree we need him. Also given the rebounding disadvantage. We're playing three guards and a small forward most of the time - the C has to be a real rebounder. Vonleh is good but he is another forward.


i also think trier should be the back up point...

i dont mind vonleh playing center but baker and trier can not be the back court, you need your guards to rebound when you play that small
RE: i thibk robinson should of been in the game  
chopperhatch : 10/19/2018 10:09 pm : link
In comment 14136329 nygiants16 said:
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i know he is cold but he would of blocked that...

and give credit where it is due levert hit a prayer 3 and that was a tough shot he hit to win it


Given the rebound discrepancy, it really couldnt have hurt.
THJ could not hold Levert, Frank would  
GiantsUA : 10/19/2018 10:09 pm : link
have been a better match up.
I would like to see the combined stat line thru 2 games  
GiantsUA : 10/19/2018 10:10 pm : link
Baker and Thomas - 0 points?
RE: THJ could not hold Levert, Frank would  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14136341 GiantsUA said:
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have been a better match up.


they wouldnof just run a pick and roll to get the switch..
this team with kp would be really fun  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:18 pm : link
and i think could compete for a playoff spot
How bout Ronnie Baker  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 10:26 pm : link
passing up that wide open baseline jumper so he could drive into Jarret Allen's chest and turn it over? Awesome work.
Turnovers  
looie : 10/19/2018 10:33 pm : link
Knicks 3, Nets 22. And the Nets still won. Amazing. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a turnover margin that big and the mistake-prone team come out on top.
knicks play celtics tomorrow  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:36 pm : link
are irving and hayward playing back to backs?
RE: Turnovers  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14136350 looie said:
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Knicks 3, Nets 22. And the Nets still won. Amazing. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a turnover margin that big and the mistake-prone team come out on top.


Knicks were +19 on turnovers but Nets were +19 on rebounds. We need Robinson and eventually KP to get more size up front.
RE: knicks play celtics tomorrow  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14136351 nygiants16 said:
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are irving and hayward playing back to backs?


Celts lost at Toronto tonight and they both played.
RE: RE: knicks play celtics tomorrow  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 11:08 pm : link
In comment 14136354 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 14136351 nygiants16 said:


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are irving and hayward playing back to backs?



Celts lost at Toronto tonight and they both played.


right, my question is are they playing tomorrow? or are there no restrictions
^^^^  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 11:12 pm : link
not sure
Levert and Allen  
hitdog42 : 10/20/2018 7:49 am : link
Are quite a nice combo to watch

Brooklyn has a find in Levert  
dpinzow : 10/20/2018 8:35 am : link
And the Knicks are finally building this thing right, although it is in the very early stages. Knox looked very good last night
Nets also have a find  
hitdog42 : 10/20/2018 8:45 am : link
In kurucs the 2nd round rookie
Long good shooter- aggressive— 11 and 6 last night

Biggest question for the nets will be if russel shows enough to resign—- my guess is no but it’s a long season- he has to shoot above 40 from 3 to be starter caliber and he’s not there

Allen is scary good for his age and 1yr development
Ron Baker  
XBRONX : 10/20/2018 8:45 am : link
really sucks on offense.
Hardaway can opt out after next year?  
arniefez : 10/20/2018 8:52 am : link
That would be wonderful.
RE: Levert and Allen  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2018 8:55 am : link
In comment 14136396 hitdog42 said:
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Are quite a nice combo to watch
Yes they are. I saw you mentioned the Nets could win 38 games or so - seemed like a high number for a team without a fourth quarter "closer," but maybe LeVert will be that guy.
RE: Ron Baker  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2018 8:58 am : link
In comment 14136417 XBRONX said:
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really sucks on offense.

He just keeps getting worse and worse - he had some decent moments here and there as a rookie, and it's been downhill ever since.
Fun game  
TyreeHelmet : 10/20/2018 9:01 am : link
To watch. Things are looking up for both teams.

Baker plays too much. Why not give Dotson some minutes? I think he’s back to the bench once Lee returns.

- That flagrant call was awful.

- Even though he played well, Hardaway kills you on defense and poor shots/decisions.
RE: Fun game  
nygiants16 : 10/20/2018 9:09 am : link
In comment 14136424 TyreeHelmet said:
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To watch. Things are looking up for both teams.

Baker plays too much. Why not give Dotson some minutes? I think he’s back to the bench once Lee returns.

- That flagrant call was awful.

- Even though he played well, Hardaway kills you on defense and poor shots/decisions.


also ball was clearly out on russell
if kanter played just average defense  
nygiants16 : 10/20/2018 9:10 am : link
you could justify keeping him
Not really shocked at  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/20/2018 9:13 am : link
Caris ReVert (Michigan Man) going off.

However I was shocked to see Tim Hardaway guarding him and not Frank.
NBA scoring  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 9:17 am : link
Right now is unreal. Not sure if it will stay like this but these games are like all star games.
RE: Nets also have a find  
Eric on Li : 10/20/2018 9:41 am : link
In comment 14136416 hitdog42 said:
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In kurucs the 2nd round rookie
Long good shooter- aggressive— 11 and 6 last night

Biggest question for the nets will be if russel shows enough to resign—- my guess is no but it’s a long season- he has to shoot above 40 from 3 to be starter caliber and he’s not there

Allen is scary good for his age and 1yr development


The biggest thing for nets this year will be making the right choices beyond Levert/Allen. Decisions on Dinwiddie, Russell, and RHJ could all go either way. Russell has the most scoring potential on the team but Dinwiddie has produced better in the pg role and is a better athlete/defender. To me RHJ is an easier decision just based on $ value vs. his injury risk. Starting PG is a tough call.

Minutes keep getting tougher to find too. Kurocs being ready to play and forcing his way into minutes is an unexpected surprise. Carroll being out may be kind of a blessing in disguise.
Put Carroll in for dudley  
hitdog42 : 10/20/2018 9:46 am : link
And you get 10 plus points with same defense
Maybe less passing
RE: Put Carroll in for dudley  
Eric on Li : 10/20/2018 10:08 am : link
In comment 14136444 hitdog42 said:
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And you get 10 plus points with same defense
Maybe less passing


Sure but beyond those 2, RHJ and Crabbe are going to grab a lot of those minutes as soon as they are healthy. I'd guess the first healthy starting lineup settles into Russell - Levert - Crabbe - RHJ - Allen. With Davis/Faried/Kurocs/Harris (and Dudley/Carroll when healthy) fighting it out for front court minutes beyond them.
RE: RE: Ron Baker  
ColHowPepper : 10/20/2018 1:45 pm : link
In comment 14136423 bceagle05 said:
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In comment 14136417 XBRONX said:
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He just keeps getting worse and worse - he had some decent moments here and there as a rookie, and it's been downhill ever since.
I didn't watch last night, but I did watch a good bit of the Hawks' game. Ron Baker really sucks on defense (too). It's one thing if you're not naturally gifted or athletic, it's another if you have that disadvantage and you don't really stick your nose in your opponent's jersey and stick to him like glue. Not only can Baker not move or slide with whomever he's guarding, he just gives it up and finds himself all alone, out of the play entirely. His PT should really be in question.
Hayward is out tonight for Celts  
BigBlueShock : 10/20/2018 1:54 pm : link
Per ESPN
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