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NFT: 10/19: Knicks (1-0) vs Nets (0-1)

LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/19/2018 8:28 am


Tip Off at 7:30pm

Projected Starters

Burke
Hardaway
Ntilikina
LFT
Kanter

vs

DLo Russell
Joe Harris
LeVert
Hollis-Jefferson
J. Allen


Liked reading this regarding Fizdale:  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/19/2018 8:30 am : link
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David Fizdale played film of only team's mistakes today. "A happy team is a soft team. I told them, "What did you do"? You didn’t do anything. We took care of home. We got into the film and watched a lot of mistakes we made."
Fiz says all the right stuff. Love the guy.  
Heisenberg : 10/19/2018 8:36 am : link
Interesting to see how the young team responds to a taste of success. The Nets are better than the Hawks and have a chip on their shoulder, especially about the Knicks. I think it should be a good game.
If for nothing else this team will be fun to watch because of Fizdale  
Stu11 : 10/19/2018 9:46 am : link
That guy is a character as opposed to Hornacek who's face hasn't changed expression in 3 decades.
has  
Steve in Greenwich : 10/19/2018 10:06 am : link
there been any word on Mitchell Robinson? I would assume he's out for tonight
I think Robinson is available.  
Heisenberg : 10/19/2018 10:18 am : link
He was available to return last game, they said. But Fiz stuck with Vonleh because he was playing so well.
Not a Knicks comment...  
BleedingBlue2 : 10/19/2018 10:20 am : link
but since this is the only basketball thread... is anyone else amazed that Vince Carter is still playing and 23 minutes at that?
i want robinson to get minutes  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:20 am : link
but if vonleh continues to play well kind of hard to juatify not playing him, unless fiz plays them together
RE: Not a Knicks comment...  
TommyWiseau : 10/19/2018 10:26 am : link
In comment 14135413 BleedingBlue2 said:
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but since this is the only basketball thread... is anyone else amazed that Vince Carter is still playing and 23 minutes at that?


What a career he has had. He is what, 42 years old and still running with these 20 year olds
Fizdale seems like a terrific communicator.  
GiantsUA : 10/19/2018 10:50 am : link
Hope it works for him in NY.

I think the Knicks win this game.

I know it is early, but  
Giantology : 10/19/2018 10:56 am : link
I have never been this hyped on a Knicks coach before.
dinwiddle ran his mouth  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 11:09 am : link
i am sure knicks will come out judt fine
Frankie always plays well against the Nets.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 11:30 am : link
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RE: I know it is early, but  
djm : 10/19/2018 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14135482 Giantology said:
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I have never been this hyped on a Knicks coach before.


There’s a certain aura he has in regards to his communication skills and relationship with players and even the media. He just knows how to work with people. Not that prior coaches didn’t, but they didn’t exhibit these excellent skills like Fizdale has.

Dare I say this franchise appears to have gotten shit right. I don’t even necessarily care about how high the next draft pick is. I almost feel like it doesn’t even matter as long as KP comes back 100%. They do need more talent but times aren’t as desperate as they used to be. Just keep this up and I’m not talkng about wins. Just in general keep it up.
I think this is the year that the Nets may have a better record than  
Ira : 10/19/2018 12:23 pm : link
the Knicks. KP is gone most of the season and the Knicks front office are sticking to their plan not to trade young players and picks for veterans.
RE: I think this is the year that the Nets may have a better record than  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/19/2018 1:56 pm : link
In comment 14135634 Ira said:
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the Knicks. KP is gone most of the season and the Knicks front office are sticking to their plan not to trade young players and picks for veterans.


That's fine with me. Everyone pretty much knows the Knicks ceiling this year without KP. Just wanna see growth for the kids.
RE: I think this is the year that the Nets may have a better record than  
BigBlueShock : 10/19/2018 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14135634 Ira said:
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the Knicks. KP is gone most of the season and the Knicks front office are sticking to their plan not to trade young players and picks for veterans.

Isn’t it completely expected by almost every single person that the Nets should have a better record than the Knicks this season?
RE: RE: I think this is the year that the Nets may have a better record than  
adamg : 10/19/2018 5:19 pm : link
In comment 14136117 BigBlueShock said:
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the Knicks. KP is gone most of the season and the Knicks front office are sticking to their plan not to trade young players and picks for veterans.


Isn’t it completely expected by almost every single person that the Nets should have a better record than the Knicks this season?
Yep. We're ranked 2nd to last by virtually everybody.
Knicks Yoots Luneup  
idiotsavant : 10/19/2018 5:31 pm : link
Trier
Knox
Nili
Vohnle
Robinson/Kantor

Could be fun. What the heck.

Lineup  
idiotsavant : 10/19/2018 5:32 pm : link
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Giants or Knicks?  
GiantsUA : 10/19/2018 6:41 pm : link
Who is the first to win two games.

I say the Knicks, tonight.
I really enjoyed watching them  
chopperhatch : 10/19/2018 7:09 pm : link
Play the other night. Ive got to root for them again tonight. Loved what we got out of youngsters Trier and Vonleh. Frank has wonderful defensive square up technique. He moves his feet exceptionally well. I also think he can find a home as a SF as he certainly has the size. Maybe ots early, but he has a game that reminds me of Leandro Barbosa's.

Also have to root for Hardaway Jr to have really nice games to make teams in the hunt who need a potent shooting guard justify the contract. Philly? Lakers? His % was a little low for me, but the whole team got off to a slow start shooting
Kanter beasting early.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 7:58 pm : link
Keeping us in it against an inspired Nets team.
down 9 after 1Q -  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 8:10 pm : link
not playing great so far.
My God the nets commentating crew is awful  
jgambrosio : 10/19/2018 8:11 pm : link
Stuck watching the game pass free preview and the nets team. This woman is horrible.
Knox looks much more comfortable tonight.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 8:20 pm : link
Seven early points on 3/6 shooting, including a beautiful drive where the lay-in just rimmed out.
Levert  
hitdog42 : 10/19/2018 8:21 pm : link
Is pretty much doing whatever he wants out there
Officiating  
hitdog42 : 10/19/2018 8:26 pm : link
Has been pathetic
Not even a physical game and they have been non stop
.  
threeofakind33 : 10/19/2018 8:33 pm : link
Nets got a rotation player in Kurucs. He’s very active on both sides of the court.
Lance misses a lay-in off a beautiful Frank feed.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 8:33 pm : link
I saw him grab a rebound before though.
Frank is so freaking hesitant on offense.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 8:38 pm : link
Shoot it if it's there.
knox needs to start 2nd half over lance  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 8:41 pm : link
lance blows and does nothing out there..
Knicks have shot for shit  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/19/2018 8:43 pm : link
Nets have shot well. And yet the Knicks are still in it.

If things revert to the mean, then the Knicks should win this in the second half. Of course, it's sports.
Nets killing Knicks on the boards  
Eli Wilson : 10/19/2018 8:58 pm : link
32-16 at the moment.
FRANK!!!!  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:04 pm : link
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Frankie with 7 quick points  
PetesHereNow : 10/19/2018 9:04 pm : link
So much better if he trusts his shot.
Frankie with the teardrop!  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:04 pm : link
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Honestly  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:05 pm : link
They should've kept Noah instead of Baker. Baker is an absolute blackhole on offense...and we already have one blackhole already. His name is Lance Thomas.
I bet Fiz had a little halftime chat with Frank.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:05 pm : link
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Lance Thomas is just hilarious to watch  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:07 pm : link
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Culture changed  
dep026 : 10/19/2018 9:14 pm : link
Nets still suck.
Knox!  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:15 pm : link
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RE: Lance Thomas is just hilarious to watch  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14136258 Anakim said:
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he thinks he is a lot better than he really is
Lance Thomas is a top ten player in the game  
adamg : 10/19/2018 9:22 pm : link
Don't @ me
RE: RE: Lance Thomas is just hilarious to watch  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:24 pm : link
In comment 14136261 nygiants16 said:
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he thinks he is a lot better than he really is


Always has
Doesn't help that Knicks brass  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:24 pm : link
talks up Lance like he's the best leader since Willis Reed.
Holy shit  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:25 pm : link
Ron Baker really is terrible. I'd rather see Mudiay
WTF is Ron Baker doing?  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:25 pm : link
Is that basketball?
On the bright side  
adamg : 10/19/2018 9:27 pm : link
Baker should almost surely be gone by next year
RE: Holy shit  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 9:28 pm : link
In comment 14136268 Anakim said:
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Ron Baker really is terrible. I'd rather see Mudiay


You may as time goes on. Mudiay has not been available so far this regular season (ankle).
RE: RE: Holy shit  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:28 pm : link
In comment 14136275 Del Shofner said:
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Ron Baker really is terrible. I'd rather see Mudiay



You may as time goes on. Mudiay has not been available so far this regular season (ankle).



Right. Mudiay, as shitty as he is, is more competent than Baker.
if they ever called that foul on Oak in the 90s  
PetesHereNow : 10/19/2018 9:28 pm : link
He would have shoved the ball up the ref's ass.
I like Vonleh but he should not take  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 9:29 pm : link
outside shots.
Knox!  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:31 pm : link
He'll be a starter in no time.
Why is Baker still in the game?  
PetesHereNow : 10/19/2018 9:32 pm : link
Why, Fiz, why?
Lance thomas plays basketball like he's wearing sandals  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/19/2018 9:33 pm : link
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Get the fuck out Baker  
slickwilly : 10/19/2018 9:33 pm : link
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no reason for baker to still be in the game  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:34 pm : link
and knox better finish this game..
it's Hardaway hero ball time  
PetesHereNow : 10/19/2018 9:37 pm : link
Holy shit, Timmy, enough.
Flagrant my ass.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:37 pm : link
Hit his biceps for fuck's sake.
what a fucking joke  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:38 pm : link
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is he supposed to let him make the layup?  
PetesHereNow : 10/19/2018 9:38 pm : link
Holy shit.
LeVert's constant bitching paid dividends.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:39 pm : link
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Courtney Lee is coming into the game?  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:40 pm : link
NOW!?! With 4 minutes left? When we're tied?
Knox  
Mike in NY : 10/19/2018 9:40 pm : link
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KNOX!  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:40 pm : link
Have a night!
Knox!  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 9:40 pm : link
he called for it and he sank it
leave him the fuck in fizdale  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:41 pm : link
put lance back on the bench
Knox is gonna be really good  
PetesHereNow : 10/19/2018 9:41 pm : link
The shot is nice.
RE: Courtney Lee is coming into the game?  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14136293 Anakim said:
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NOW!?! With 4 minutes left? When we're tied?


no lance thomas is
RE: RE: Courtney Lee is coming into the game?  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:43 pm : link
In comment 14136299 nygiants16 said:
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NOW!?! With 4 minutes left? When we're tied?



no lance thomas is


Oh. Ian Eagle (I'm watching Yes Network. Figured I'd switch things up a bit) said Lee was checking in.
we need a go fund me  
PetesHereNow : 10/19/2018 9:43 pm : link
to fund two things:
1) find out what Tom Quinn has on Giants' ownership
2) find out what Lance Thomas has on the Knicks.
RE: it's Hardaway hero ball time  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14136288 PetesHereNow said:
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Holy shit, Timmy, enough.


him and kanter have carried the offense
RE: RE: it's Hardaway hero ball time  
PetesHereNow : 10/19/2018 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14136302 nygiants16 said:
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Holy shit, Timmy, enough.



him and kanter have carried the offense


I know and I'm fine with him, but those two drives in between 3 defenders wasn't necessary. He's fine if he doesn't try to be his father.
If I was a Nets fan, I would become a fan of another team  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:47 pm : link
just so I wouldn't have to watch Sarah and Ian on a regular basis
Oh no. Lance is hurt.  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:51 pm : link
Sure would suck if he had to come out...
Is this the NFL?  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:52 pm : link
These refs suck.
how is that not a foul?  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:53 pm : link
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that is clearly off russell  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:53 pm : link
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PRETTY PASS FROM BURKE TO KANTER  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:54 pm : link
There ya go!
Kanter!  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 9:54 pm : link
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Fun game.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 9:55 pm : link
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I know he's not great defensively  
PetesHereNow : 10/19/2018 9:56 pm : link
but I admire how much Kanter wants to be a Knick and how he gives his all.
I like Kanter  
adamg : 10/19/2018 9:57 pm : link
I would try to keep him and make room for a max deal. I imagine both moves are possible, no?
Shitty D by THJ  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 9:57 pm : link
And where was the help in the paint?
ANd that out of bounds review changed the game  
adamg : 10/19/2018 9:58 pm : link
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what is clyde talking about?  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 9:59 pm : link
they can catch and shoot
However it ends  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/19/2018 9:59 pm : link
this Knick team plays harder than in the recent past. Fun to watch.
RE: ANd that out of bounds review changed the game  
Mike in NY : 10/19/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 14136319 adamg said:
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Or the “flagrant” foul
Why is Hardaway covering  
chopperhatch : 10/19/2018 9:59 pm : link
Their best scorer there? Should have been Frank IMO
Game over  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 10:00 pm : link
Disappointing loss
oh well -  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 10:01 pm : link
work in progress ...
RE: Why is Hardaway covering  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14136324 chopperhatch said:
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Their best scorer there? Should have been Frank IMO


I was wondering about that too.
any quesrion knox should start now?  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:01 pm : link
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i thibk robinson should of been in the game  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:02 pm : link
i know he is cold but he would of blocked that...

and give credit where it is due levert hit a prayer 3 and that was a tough shot he hit to win it
RE: any quesrion knox should start now?  
chopperhatch : 10/19/2018 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14136328 nygiants16 said:
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Absolutely. And Rin Baker should be next to Lance Thomas on the end of the bench
Oh well.  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 10:03 pm : link
Liked what I saw from Knox. Frank continues to flash some offense. Kanter's playing like an All-Star.
That flagrant foul was  
chopperhatch : 10/19/2018 10:04 pm : link
a piss poor call.
RE: i thibk robinson should of been in the game  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14136329 nygiants16 said:
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i know he is cold but he would of blocked that...

and give credit where it is due levert hit a prayer 3 and that was a tough shot he hit to win it


Robinson may not be 100% yet but I agree we need him. Also given the rebounding disadvantage. We're playing three guards and a small forward most of the time - the C has to be a real rebounder. Vonleh is good but he is another forward.
RE: RE: i thibk robinson should of been in the game  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14136335 Del Shofner said:
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i know he is cold but he would of blocked that...

and give credit where it is due levert hit a prayer 3 and that was a tough shot he hit to win it



Robinson may not be 100% yet but I agree we need him. Also given the rebounding disadvantage. We're playing three guards and a small forward most of the time - the C has to be a real rebounder. Vonleh is good but he is another forward.


i also think trier should be the back up point...

i dont mind vonleh playing center but baker and trier can not be the back court, you need your guards to rebound when you play that small
RE: i thibk robinson should of been in the game  
chopperhatch : 10/19/2018 10:09 pm : link
In comment 14136329 nygiants16 said:
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i know he is cold but he would of blocked that...

and give credit where it is due levert hit a prayer 3 and that was a tough shot he hit to win it


Given the rebound discrepancy, it really couldnt have hurt.
THJ could not hold Levert, Frank would  
GiantsUA : 10/19/2018 10:09 pm : link
have been a better match up.
I would like to see the combined stat line thru 2 games  
GiantsUA : 10/19/2018 10:10 pm : link
Baker and Thomas - 0 points?
RE: THJ could not hold Levert, Frank would  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14136341 GiantsUA said:
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have been a better match up.


they wouldnof just run a pick and roll to get the switch..
this team with kp would be really fun  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:18 pm : link
and i think could compete for a playoff spot
How bout Ronnie Baker  
bceagle05 : 10/19/2018 10:26 pm : link
passing up that wide open baseline jumper so he could drive into Jarret Allen's chest and turn it over? Awesome work.
Turnovers  
looie : 10/19/2018 10:33 pm : link
Knicks 3, Nets 22. And the Nets still won. Amazing. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a turnover margin that big and the mistake-prone team come out on top.
knicks play celtics tomorrow  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 10:36 pm : link
are irving and hayward playing back to backs?
RE: Turnovers  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14136350 looie said:
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Knicks 3, Nets 22. And the Nets still won. Amazing. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a turnover margin that big and the mistake-prone team come out on top.


Knicks were +19 on turnovers but Nets were +19 on rebounds. We need Robinson and eventually KP to get more size up front.
RE: knicks play celtics tomorrow  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14136351 nygiants16 said:
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are irving and hayward playing back to backs?


Celts lost at Toronto tonight and they both played.
RE: RE: knicks play celtics tomorrow  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2018 11:08 pm : link
In comment 14136354 Del Shofner said:
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are irving and hayward playing back to backs?



Celts lost at Toronto tonight and they both played.


right, my question is are they playing tomorrow? or are there no restrictions
^^^^  
Del Shofner : 10/19/2018 11:12 pm : link
not sure
Levert and Allen  
hitdog42 : 10/20/2018 7:49 am : link
Are quite a nice combo to watch

Brooklyn has a find in Levert  
dpinzow : 10/20/2018 8:35 am : link
And the Knicks are finally building this thing right, although it is in the very early stages. Knox looked very good last night
Nets also have a find  
hitdog42 : 10/20/2018 8:45 am : link
In kurucs the 2nd round rookie
Long good shooter- aggressive— 11 and 6 last night

Biggest question for the nets will be if russel shows enough to resign—- my guess is no but it’s a long season- he has to shoot above 40 from 3 to be starter caliber and he’s not there

Allen is scary good for his age and 1yr development
Ron Baker  
XBRONX : 10/20/2018 8:45 am : link
really sucks on offense.
Hardaway can opt out after next year?  
arniefez : 10/20/2018 8:52 am : link
That would be wonderful.
RE: Levert and Allen  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2018 8:55 am : link
In comment 14136396 hitdog42 said:
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Are quite a nice combo to watch
Yes they are. I saw you mentioned the Nets could win 38 games or so - seemed like a high number for a team without a fourth quarter "closer," but maybe LeVert will be that guy.
RE: Ron Baker  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2018 8:58 am : link
In comment 14136417 XBRONX said:
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really sucks on offense.

He just keeps getting worse and worse - he had some decent moments here and there as a rookie, and it's been downhill ever since.
Fun game  
TyreeHelmet : 10/20/2018 9:01 am : link
To watch. Things are looking up for both teams.

Baker plays too much. Why not give Dotson some minutes? I think he’s back to the bench once Lee returns.

- That flagrant call was awful.

- Even though he played well, Hardaway kills you on defense and poor shots/decisions.
RE: Fun game  
nygiants16 : 10/20/2018 9:09 am : link
In comment 14136424 TyreeHelmet said:
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To watch. Things are looking up for both teams.

Baker plays too much. Why not give Dotson some minutes? I think he’s back to the bench once Lee returns.

- That flagrant call was awful.

- Even though he played well, Hardaway kills you on defense and poor shots/decisions.


also ball was clearly out on russell
if kanter played just average defense  
nygiants16 : 10/20/2018 9:10 am : link
you could justify keeping him
Not really shocked at  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/20/2018 9:13 am : link
Caris ReVert (Michigan Man) going off.

However I was shocked to see Tim Hardaway guarding him and not Frank.
NBA scoring  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 9:17 am : link
Right now is unreal. Not sure if it will stay like this but these games are like all star games.
RE: Nets also have a find  
Eric on Li : 10/20/2018 9:41 am : link
In comment 14136416 hitdog42 said:
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In kurucs the 2nd round rookie
Long good shooter- aggressive— 11 and 6 last night

Biggest question for the nets will be if russel shows enough to resign—- my guess is no but it’s a long season- he has to shoot above 40 from 3 to be starter caliber and he’s not there

Allen is scary good for his age and 1yr development


The biggest thing for nets this year will be making the right choices beyond Levert/Allen. Decisions on Dinwiddie, Russell, and RHJ could all go either way. Russell has the most scoring potential on the team but Dinwiddie has produced better in the pg role and is a better athlete/defender. To me RHJ is an easier decision just based on $ value vs. his injury risk. Starting PG is a tough call.

Minutes keep getting tougher to find too. Kurocs being ready to play and forcing his way into minutes is an unexpected surprise. Carroll being out may be kind of a blessing in disguise.
Put Carroll in for dudley  
hitdog42 : 10/20/2018 9:46 am : link
And you get 10 plus points with same defense
Maybe less passing
RE: Put Carroll in for dudley  
Eric on Li : 10/20/2018 10:08 am : link
In comment 14136444 hitdog42 said:
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And you get 10 plus points with same defense
Maybe less passing


Sure but beyond those 2, RHJ and Crabbe are going to grab a lot of those minutes as soon as they are healthy. I'd guess the first healthy starting lineup settles into Russell - Levert - Crabbe - RHJ - Allen. With Davis/Faried/Kurocs/Harris (and Dudley/Carroll when healthy) fighting it out for front court minutes beyond them.
RE: RE: Ron Baker  
ColHowPepper : 10/20/2018 1:45 pm : link
In comment 14136423 bceagle05 said:
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He just keeps getting worse and worse - he had some decent moments here and there as a rookie, and it's been downhill ever since.
I didn't watch last night, but I did watch a good bit of the Hawks' game. Ron Baker really sucks on defense (too). It's one thing if you're not naturally gifted or athletic, it's another if you have that disadvantage and you don't really stick your nose in your opponent's jersey and stick to him like glue. Not only can Baker not move or slide with whomever he's guarding, he just gives it up and finds himself all alone, out of the play entirely. His PT should really be in question.
Hayward is out tonight for Celts  
BigBlueShock : 10/20/2018 1:54 pm : link
Per ESPN
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