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Anybody else keeping an eye on Seattle's run game?

Racer : 10/19/2018 10:28 am
If you listen to Sirius you've heard about how Carroll is trying to get the eye of the tiger back and pound it.

Here's one of those teams that was in the same boat as NYG OL-wise, and they've got 30 carries a game from their RBs the last 3 games and reduced Wilson's carries to under 3 per game in those games. 484y on 91 carries.

Counterpoint; this was against the Raiders, Rams and Cardinals.

Regardless of what you think of PC and his asshole (Retrojint's words, not mine) OL coach Solari, this is the kind of subplot I like to follow in a NYG down year.
I think  
mdthedream : 10/19/2018 10:56 am : link
the Giants know they could pound the rock more with Barkley but they don't want to ruin the kid for no reason. Next year will be a different story.
RE: I think  
Dave in PA : 10/19/2018 11:11 am : link
In comment 14135481 mdthedream said:
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the Giants know they could pound the rock more with Barkley but they don't want to ruin the kid for no reason. Next year will be a different story.
Possibly, but Omameh looks like a liability all around. Fluker definitly helps their run game.
Raiders = 28th in rush D, Cards = 32 in Rush D  
ZogZerg : 10/19/2018 11:58 am : link
re-post when they can run against some good run Ds.
Seattle  
RAIN : 10/19/2018 12:02 pm : link
has no real great threat on the outside, or at TE.

Teams should be able to stack the box against them.

What they have going for them, the Seahawks, is Russell Wilson.

What they do not, is everything else.

Good Thread Racer. Carroll is doing a pretty good job.

Barkley has almost as many touches as a receiver  
Ira : 10/19/2018 12:17 pm : link
as he does as a running back. That's just the best way to use him.
RE: I think  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/19/2018 12:22 pm : link
In comment 14135481 mdthedream said:
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the Giants know they could pound the rock more with Barkley but they don't want to ruin the kid for no reason. Next year will be a different story.


That'd be something else if they were packing in the season six games in. Might as well bench everyone else important too.

I dont think this is about fear of ruining Barkley.
Seattle really had to try this...  
bw in dc : 10/19/2018 12:24 pm : link
because Wilson's career was at stake.

That oline last year was easily the worst in the NFL. It wasn't even close. Yet, Carroll and Bevell should have been arrested for attempted manslaughter for the positions they put Wilson in.

Schottenheimer, as expected, is a lot more committed to running the ball. So that is exactly what you are seeing thus far this season...
RE: Raiders = 28th in rush D, Cards = 32 in Rush D  
Racer : 10/19/2018 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14135597 ZogZerg said:
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re-post when they can run against some good run Ds.


See 'counterpoint' above. Work on your reading comprehension this weekend and we'll try again on Monday.
Barkley  
mdthedream : 10/19/2018 1:13 pm : link
should be used like David Johnson was before injury. Barkley should see 20 carries next season and 6 receptions a game.
RE: Barkley  
Racer : 10/19/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14135737 mdthedream said:
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should be used like David Johnson was before injury. Barkley should see 20 carries next season and 6 receptions a game.


Agree. It's pretty clear NYG are trying to limit the mileage in year 1; he never really gets a chance to get any rhythm going, and all the free defenders in the run lanes don't help that either. They can spell him at the same rate while calling more runs.

More than one person on Sirius has also suggested they put Eli under center a bit more to benefit both the run and the pass. Small sample size, certainly, but I think I heard Kirwan say he'd tracked it season-to-date and he'd want to see less shotgun.
Shurmur, and McAdoo, are stupid  
SHO'NUFF : 10/19/2018 1:38 pm : link
They need to RUN THE BALL. But keep being stubborn, who cares. #HurtforHerbert.
Aikman  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2018 1:39 pm : link
was very complimentary of him during one of the broadcasts
RE: Seattle  
Racer : 10/19/2018 1:52 pm : link
In comment 14135601 RAIN said:
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Good Thread Racer. Carroll is doing a pretty good job.


Thanks. Priority one was definitely to eliminate exposing Wilson so frequently, agree.

As pass happy as the league has become and how much talk there is about QB and OL prospects turning it into glorified NCAA ball, how many teams in these first few weeks have gashed the opponent on the ground and surprised the heck out of all but a few Vegas sharps? The NYG drive charts can't look any worse, and Joey has even mentioned how banging the inside runs will eventually change how defenses scheme against them.
RE: RE: Raiders = 28th in rush D, Cards = 32 in Rush D  
ZogZerg : 10/20/2018 11:09 am : link
In comment 14135714 Racer said:
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In comment 14135597 ZogZerg said:


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re-post when they can run against some good run Ds.



See 'counterpoint' above. Work on your reading comprehension this weekend and we'll try again on Monday.


Go Fuck Yourself and work on posting on posting something useful.
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