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Barkley vs QBs

mdthedream : 10/19/2018 11:29 am
I am not all that impressed by Rosen or Allen. Darnell looks good but who knows for sure yet. I do like Mayfield and he is the guy I liked most of all. Deep down I wanted Barkley and I have to say I am happy we have one of the best RBs in the league. I hope Kyle is the guy and if not at least the Rookie QB will have a top RB to take the load off of him. Watching Rosen yesterday made me appreciate Barkley even more.
Thanks.  
Anakim : 10/19/2018 11:33 am : link
This hasn't been discussed in 8 minutes
Darnold  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/19/2018 11:34 am : link
His name is Darnold
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FranchiseQB : 10/19/2018 11:34 am : link
I still like Rosen. You can see when he has a chance to view the field that he wants to get the ball down field and he can do so with zip and accuracy. I think there is a good chance he will be very good in a few years.
Good thread.  
RottenApple : 10/19/2018 11:39 am : link
Luckily, Eli was pretty much on point as soon as he replaced Warner. Just ask Baltimore, they'll tell you.
Darnell Dinkins?  
Banks : 10/19/2018 11:42 am : link
JFC  
HomerJones45 : 10/19/2018 11:43 am : link
this shit again.

Well sit tight, dream because you very likely to see our own version of Allen, Rosen and "Darnell" next season.

There are a couple of way to build: you can pick qb #1 and then go get a rb or a wideout like the Browns and Bills or you can get a rb and then pick a qb #1 like the Rams. We are following the Rams plan.
I like  
mdthedream : 10/19/2018 11:48 am : link
the Rams plan better esp seeing Barkley is a stud.
Who the hell is "Darnell?"  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/19/2018 11:48 am : link
Get lost.
Remember when Mr. Glass  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/19/2018 11:48 am : link
Swore vengeance on Denver, the Giants and everyone who passes him over lolroflmao!

I wonder if Denver coaches used it as motivation to transform Denver into the 85 Bears last night.
RE: Darnold  
Big Blue '56 : 10/19/2018 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14135552 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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His name is Darnold


Lauderdale. His name is Larry in Lauderdale
None of the qbs from 2018 are of the omg can’t miss variety  
djm : 10/19/2018 12:22 pm : link
And that’s just a fact. Doesn’t mean one or two won’t develop into a legendary player but that’s not the point here and some fans refuse to acknowledge this simple fact.

Barkley was can’t miss and he’s practically exceeded expectations. For the love of Christ move the fuck on. This franchise has done about 5 things correctly the last year. Barkley was one of them.
Some Fans are so annoying with this shit  
djm : 10/19/2018 12:24 pm : link
There are no do overs in the draft. You don’t get to go back and pick again. You pick the guy you feel is the best and safest bet. You can’t be wishy washy or pick for need or worry about the fan base. Pick the best fucking player.

Fans have the luxury of second guessing.
I defended Reese at times  
djm : 10/19/2018 12:31 pm : link
Because I had to believe he was picking the best player on the board. At times he probably was but some of the failed picks sure look like reaches or need picks. Then he goes and takes Engram over Ramchyk. Wtf.

Giants suck balls. I know DG said they expected to compete this year but I don’t care about that lip service crap. They need another year to draft and weed out the shit here. Another FA or two. If they can nail this next draft they will be in much better shape. That’s all I got. Make it stop.
I dont know how long this whole thing will last for  
gmen9892 : 10/19/2018 12:32 pm : link
Every time a QB that we passed on has a good game, you have the "draft a QB" crowd throwing it in everyone elses face. Every time they have a bad game, you have the "draft Barkley" crowd throwing it in the draft a QB crowd's face.

On and on we go. Can we just accept that what's done is done. Will this convo never end until the Giants come up with their QB of the future? It's exhausting.
RE: Some Fans are so annoying with this shit  
Go Terps : 10/19/2018 12:34 pm : link
In comment 14135637 djm said:
[quote] There are no do overs in the draft. You don’t get to go back and pick again. You pick the guy you feel is the best and safest bet. You can’t be wishy washy or pick for need or worry about the fan base. Pick the best fucking player.

Fans have the luxury of second guessing. [quote]

It isn't second guessing when the discussion has been going on since March.

Want to know what I texted my Giants fan buddies the moment we announced our pick?

"Fucking assholes."

RE: I dont know how long this whole thing will last for  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/19/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 14135650 gmen9892 said:
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Every time a QB that we passed on has a good game, you have the "draft a QB" crowd throwing it in everyone elses face. Every time they have a bad game, you have the "draft Barkley" crowd throwing it in the draft a QB crowd's face.

On and on we go. Can we just accept that what's done is done. Will this convo never end until the Giants come up with their QB of the future? It's exhausting.


It's been going on here for 20+ years. Why should this be any different. You've always had one group of people vs another dug in to their point of view since the dawn of BBI.
It happens every draft, QB, Free Agency, everything. It makes somewhat interesting
Darnold is a Jet  
Ron Johnson : 10/19/2018 1:16 pm : link
he has absolutely no idea how much professional misery he is in for.
Giants  
PaulN : 10/19/2018 2:29 pm : link
Need a QB, period, how we get one is the challenge now, we had an opportunity, but passed on it because of the other opportunity to draft a great talent, nobody can complain about Barkley, he is everything that was advertised and more. I think the Giants need to focus completely on obtaining the next QB, and scrap the stupid idea that Eli has one more run in him. That was ruined by Jerry Reese and his incompetence, and John Mara and his incompetence. They could not put their heads together and put a competitive offensive line and team on the field with Eli when he still could have given us another run, that ship has sailed and if they still can not see it and admit they fucked up, then we are all going to suffer with a horrible team for years to come, this needs to be fixed as soon as possible. Good college QB's can succeed in the NFL now because of the new rules.
Darnell?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/19/2018 2:29 pm : link
Did that just happen?
When you have a  
Josh in the City : 10/19/2018 2:32 pm : link
37 year old QB who hasn't played well in 6 years and you're drafting at #2 overall in one of the most highly regarded QB classes of all time, YOU. DO. NOT. PASS. ON. A. QB.

We can try and make ourselves feed better all we want. There isn't even a legitimate argument to do so. It was a terrible decision and that's it. Now we have to pray that Herbert continues to improve and that we end up in a position to draft him b/c honestly, I don't see any other legitimate options.
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arcarsenal : 10/19/2018 2:35 pm : link
Holy shit. How many more threads do we need on this?
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Josh in the City : 10/19/2018 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14135911 arcarsenal said:
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Holy shit. How many more threads do we need on this?

Buckle up. If Darnold continues to play well then it's going to be like this around here until we find the true heir to Eli. And quite honestly, if we don't land Herbert, that could be a while.
RE: RE: Some Fans are so annoying with this shit  
Jerry in DC : 10/19/2018 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14135653 Go Terps said:
Quote:
In comment 14135637 djm said:
[quote] There are no do overs in the draft. You don’t get to go back and pick again. You pick the guy you feel is the best and safest bet. You can’t be wishy washy or pick for need or worry about the fan base. Pick the best fucking player.

Fans have the luxury of second guessing. [quote]

It isn't second guessing when the discussion has been going on since March.

Want to know what I texted my Giants fan buddies the moment we announced our pick?

"Fucking assholes."


I was the same. I had judo class during the beginning of the draft. Checked my phone around 9. Completely unintentionally I just said, "motherfucker motherfucker" way louder than I should have. And I dont even use that word. It just burst out.

The whole thing is still so infuriating. We could've been building something. Now we're just killing time.
We did  
Thegratefulhead : 10/19/2018 3:23 pm : link
Draft a QB, play him already.
What are people going to bitch about  
Jay on the Island : 10/19/2018 8:24 pm : link
if the Giants select Justin Herbert in the draft?
I was hoping this was going to be some kind of cage match  
NoGainDayne : 10/19/2018 8:48 pm : link
To the death. I’d expect Barkley to fair well. Allen as the dark horse.
RE: RE: Some Fans are so annoying with this shit  
djm : 10/20/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 14135653 Go Terps said:
Quote:
In comment 14135637 djm said:
[quote] There are no do overs in the draft. You don’t get to go back and pick again. You pick the guy you feel is the best and safest bet. You can’t be wishy washy or pick for need or worry about the fan base. Pick the best fucking player.

Fans have the luxury of second guessing. [quote]

It isn't second guessing when the discussion has been going on since March.

Want to know what I texted my Giants fan buddies the moment we announced our pick?

"Fucking assholes."


What if they get a better or equally talented qb next April? Are they still assholes? I guess the pats and Steelers are assholes too. They both passed on Jackson despite possessing older QBs.

RE: When you have a  
djm : 10/20/2018 10:52 am : link
In comment 14135904 Josh in the City said:
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37 year old QB who hasn't played well in 6 years and you're drafting at #2 overall in one of the most highly regarded QB classes of all time, YOU. DO. NOT. PASS. ON. A. QB.

We can try and make ourselves feed better all we want. There isn't even a legitimate argument to do so. It was a terrible decision and that's it. Now we have to pray that Herbert continues to improve and that we end up in a position to draft him b/c honestly, I don't see any other legitimate options.


What??? Eli made the pro bowl in 2015. That’s 2 years prior to that draft. And what if you don’t love the qbs but love Barkley? Then what?

You guys do realize the giants would be 0-6 with darnold here right?

Barkley isn’t the problem.
How is Chubb doing?  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2018 10:56 am : link
?
RE: RE: When you have a  
markky : 10/20/2018 10:56 am : link
In comment 14136493 djm said:
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In comment 14135904 Josh in the City said:


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37 year old QB who hasn't played well in 6 years and you're drafting at #2 overall in one of the most highly regarded QB classes of all time, YOU. DO. NOT. PASS. ON. A. QB.

We can try and make ourselves feed better all we want. There isn't even a legitimate argument to do so. It was a terrible decision and that's it. Now we have to pray that Herbert continues to improve and that we end up in a position to draft him b/c honestly, I don't see any other legitimate options.



What??? Eli made the pro bowl in 2015. That’s 2 years prior to that draft. And what if you don’t love the qbs but love Barkley? Then what?

You guys do realize the giants would be 0-6 with darnold here right?

Barkley isn’t the problem.


Barkley isn't the problem. He's part of the solution.

But I don't think we're 0-6 with Darnold.

And it isn't wins this year that's the measure of the decision.
RE: RE: When you have a  
micky : 10/20/2018 11:06 am : link
In comment 14136493 djm said:
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In comment 14135904 Josh in the City said:


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37 year old QB who hasn't played well in 6 years and you're drafting at #2 overall in one of the most highly regarded QB classes of all time, YOU. DO. NOT. PASS. ON. A. QB.

We can try and make ourselves feed better all we want. There isn't even a legitimate argument to do so. It was a terrible decision and that's it. Now we have to pray that Herbert continues to improve and that we end up in a position to draft him b/c honestly, I don't see any other legitimate options.



What??? Eli made the pro bowl in 2015. That’s 2 years prior to that draft. And what if you don’t love the qbs but love Barkley? Then what?

You guys do realize the giants would be 0-6 with darnold here right?

Barkley isn’t the problem.


Refresh my memory..what game Barkley won game this year..just wondering
RE: Darnold  
mdc1 : 10/20/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14135552 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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His name is Darnold


BTW, you do realize that mobile devices will change the name with autocorrect and some folks cannot fix it in time?
RE: When you have a  
mdc1 : 10/20/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14135904 Josh in the City said:
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37 year old QB who hasn't played well in 6 years and you're drafting at #2 overall in one of the most highly regarded QB classes of all time, YOU. DO. NOT. PASS. ON. A. QB.

We can try and make ourselves feed better all we want. There isn't even a legitimate argument to do so. It was a terrible decision and that's it. Now we have to pray that Herbert continues to improve and that we end up in a position to draft him b/c honestly, I don't see any other legitimate options.


this and folks won't realize it until Barkley gets nicked.

Our future really looks bright with an old age QB.
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