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Frank Gore HOFer?

DanMetroMan : 10/19/2018 2:15 pm
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By the end of season, Frank Gore has a chance to move into top 5 all-time in career scrimmage yards. Every player currently ahead of him is in HOF. Simply amazing:

Rice 23,540
E. Smith 21,579
Payton 21,264
Faulk 19,154
Tomlinson 18,456
Sanders 18,190
Gore 18,054
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/19/2018 2:16 pm : link
I don't see how he doesn't get in. #doublenegative
Yes  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 10/19/2018 2:25 pm : link
but Tiki had the better career imo.

Gore has had an amazing career though after the injury he had in college.
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arcarsenal : 10/19/2018 2:28 pm : link
Yes. His longevity has been incredible considering how many of his peers he's outlasted.
I'm torn on this  
Banks : 10/19/2018 2:30 pm : link
I don't think he's great. I think maybe one season he was top in rushing yards or yards from scrimmage. He's been an occasional top 10 back over the years, but outside of 2 years never an elite imo. That said, he's stayed remarkably healthy and acquired the numbers. He'll likely get in
no  
hassan : 10/19/2018 2:30 pm : link
never the top back. product of yardage inflation in modern game and long career. unimpressed with his playoff games.
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arcarsenal : 10/19/2018 2:34 pm : link
He's going to have 15000+ rushing yards by the time he calls it a career. He has 77 career rush TD's. Nine 1000+ seasons. 5 time pro bowler.

The only 3 players with more career rush yards than Frank Gore are Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, and Emmitt Smith - and if Gore were to play one more year, he'd have a great chance at passing Sanders to move up to #3 all time.

He was never an ELITE player - but his consistency was remarkable for his position. He is 14 years into his career now and is still producing.

Frank Gore is a HoFer.
meant "top 5"  
Banks : 10/19/2018 2:34 pm : link
.
His longevity is mighty impressive  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/19/2018 2:36 pm : link
Think about his teammates that were in the league like Portis, and Willis McGahee. They have been long gone, and he blew his ACL out twice in college.
Longevity  
BillT : 10/19/2018 2:37 pm : link
14th season!! 4 seasons over 1200 yds including 1695(!) in '06. 4 more over 1000. Career 4.4 ypc. Not really a great receiver with 3700 yards receiving on 450 catches. Hard to say no to those numbers
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arcarsenal : 10/19/2018 2:39 pm : link
He's averaging 4.9 YPA right now at age 35, too.
He belongs in the  
ATL_Giants : 10/19/2018 2:44 pm : link
Hall of Accumulation.
If you're the type of person who thinks the HoF should  
Brown Recluse : 10/19/2018 2:45 pm : link
be filled with only the truly elite at their position, then no he shouldn't be in it.

If you're the type of person who looks at statistics, then yes, he should be.

The problem is the the HoF is a mixed bag of both.

Personally I say no, but thats just my opinion.
RE: He belongs in the  
arcarsenal : 10/19/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14135927 ATL_Giants said:
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Hall of Accumulation.


Sure, let's make him the ONLY RB in this group to not be in the HoFer. Makes sense.

1. Emmitt Smith+ 18,355 1990-2004 2TM
2 Walter Payton+ 16,726 1975-1987 chi
3 Barry Sanders+ 15,269 1989-1998 det
4 Frank Gore 14,329 2005-2018 3TM
5 Curtis Martin+ 14,101 1995-2005 2TM
6 LaDainian Tomlinson+ 13,684 2001-2011 2TM
7 Jerome Bettis+ 13,662 1993-2005 2TM
8 Eric Dickerson+ 13,259 1983-1993 4TM
9 Tony Dorsett+ 12,739 1977-1988 2TM
10 Adrian Peterson 12,615 2007-2018 4TM
But if Curtis Martin is in..  
ATL_Giants : 10/19/2018 2:47 pm : link
..I'd guess he makes it in.
That's the thing  
widmerseyebrow : 10/19/2018 2:56 pm : link
You basically described Curtis Martin's career.
..  
Dodge : 10/19/2018 2:58 pm : link
I think he's in after probably 4-6 years of being eligible.
He's the Eli of running backs  
SHO'NUFF : 10/19/2018 2:59 pm : link
minus, you know, the rings and all...
curtis martin  
Banks : 10/19/2018 3:04 pm : link
at least had 4-5 years where he was top 5 in rush yards and yards from scrimmage.
RE: curtis martin  
arcarsenal : 10/19/2018 3:06 pm : link
In comment 14135955 Banks said:
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at least had 4-5 years where he was top 5 in rush yards and yards from scrimmage.


Frank Gore has averaged 4.8 yards from scrimmage per touch in his career.

Curtis Marin averaged 4.4.

Try something else.
And he's already passed  
allstarjim : 10/19/2018 3:07 pm : link
Marcus Allen, Curtis Martin, Thurman Thomas, Tony Dorsett and Terrell Owens in scrimmage yards...all HOFers. He has the same number of TDs as Eric Dickerson, and more than Jerome Bettis, Dorsett, Thomas, Jim Taylor and Don Maynard. He will likely end his career with at least 100 TDs, which only 24 other players have done. Everyone of those 24 players are HOFers or sure-fire future HOFers (Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Larry Fitzgerald, and Adrian Peterson), with a lone exception of Shaun Alexander.

He is a lock.

RE: .  
Tuckrule : 10/19/2018 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14135907 arcarsenal said:
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He's going to have 15000+ rushing yards by the time he calls it a career. He has 77 career rush TD's. Nine 1000+ seasons. 5 time pro bowler.

The only 3 players with more career rush yards than Frank Gore are Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, and Emmitt Smith - and if Gore were to play one more year, he'd have a great chance at passing Sanders to move up to #3 all time.

He was never an ELITE player - but his consistency was remarkable for his position. He is 14 years into his career now and is still producing.

Frank Gore is a HoFer.


Well said
The last 7 years of Tiki's career is better than any 7 year stretch  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/19/2018 3:12 pm : link
of Gore's career and is at the very least equal to the best 7 year stretch of Curtis Martin's career.
Tiki  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/19/2018 3:23 pm : link
was better than Gore. Tiki decided to retire in his prime (for health reasons as well as what he thought were other lucrative professional opportunities). Had Tiki played until the wheels fell off, his numbers would be incredible.
RE: .  
AcidTest : 10/19/2018 3:28 pm : link
In comment 14135907 arcarsenal said:
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He's going to have 15000+ rushing yards by the time he calls it a career. He has 77 career rush TD's. Nine 1000+ seasons. 5 time pro bowler.

The only 3 players with more career rush yards than Frank Gore are Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, and Emmitt Smith - and if Gore were to play one more year, he'd have a great chance at passing Sanders to move up to #3 all time.

He was never an ELITE player - but his consistency was remarkable for his position. He is 14 years into his career now and is still producing.

Frank Gore is a HoFer.


^This. His longevity is amazing.
RE: He belongs in the  
Les in TO : 10/19/2018 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14135927 ATL_Giants said:
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Hall of Accumulation.
this.
I mean...  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/19/2018 3:50 pm : link
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By the end of season, Frank Gore has a chance to move into top 5 all-time in career scrimmage yards.


The convo begins and ends with that statement. He absolutely is.
Playing RB for that long...  
bw in dc : 10/19/2018 3:51 pm : link
and at a quality level of production is damn impressive. This is exactly the type of position where you reward longevity.

RB is a grueling position with the pounding you take. Furthermore, Gore has been a productive receiver as he starts to close in on 500 catches. And he's close to 100 total TDs.

I vote Gore in - no problem.
And this isn't baseball  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/19/2018 3:52 pm : link
The notion that a running back gets labeled a compiler is ludicrous and borderline ignorant. Being a so called compiler at that position in the NFL should be a badge of honor, not a detriment. Playing in the NFL and succeeding for that long is an accomplishment even without the great stats. This isn't some 22 year 275 hitter in baseball who cracked the top 25 in hits at the end of his career. We're talking about a guy who might have literally the 5th most yards ever.

He is a first ballot hall of famer.
RE: I mean...  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 10/19/2018 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14136019 Mike in Long Beach said:
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By the end of season, Frank Gore has a chance to move into top 5 all-time in career scrimmage yards.



The convo begins and ends with that statement. He absolutely is.


Adrian Peterson: 27th in YDS from Scrimmage
Fraqnk Gore: 7th in YDS from Scrimmage

Who do you think is more HOF-worthy at this moment?
RE: RE: I mean...  
bw in dc : 10/19/2018 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14136033 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Adrian Peterson: 27th in YDS from Scrimmage
Fraqnk Gore: 7th in YDS from Scrimmage

Who do you think is more HOF-worthy at this moment?


That's not the point. It's whether Gore is worthy of the HoF. Not whether Gore is more or less worthy vis-a-vis Peterson...
Gore  
Thegratefulhead : 10/19/2018 4:06 pm : link
Is certainly going to get in the HoF.
RE: RE: RE: I mean...  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/19/2018 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14136047 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14136033 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:


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Adrian Peterson: 27th in YDS from Scrimmage
Fraqnk Gore: 7th in YDS from Scrimmage

Who do you think is more HOF-worthy at this moment?



That's not the point. It's whether Gore is worthy of the HoF. Not whether Gore is more or less worthy vis-a-vis Peterson...


Exactly. That's precisely how I would've answered you.
In the watered down HoF, sure  
JonC : 10/19/2018 4:08 pm : link
He's got rare stats mostly because of his longevity and durability at a position where many of the greatest ever were toast by 30.

Got respect for him, but he was not a great player. HoF is getting watered down by such an inclusion.
Edge James isn't in the Hall yet btw  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 10/19/2018 4:08 pm : link
Surprised the hell out of me. He belongs over Gore easily. 15th all-time in YDS from scrimmage with a clearly higher peak.
RE: Edge James isn't in the Hall yet btw  
bw in dc : 10/19/2018 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14136054 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Surprised the hell out of me. He belongs over Gore easily. 15th all-time in YDS from scrimmage with a clearly higher peak.


James get dinged because he had his best years with the Colts when they were loaded offensively. Theory being Manning's passing brilliance made James's job immensely easier.

Personally, I think he was fantastic, too.
I still don't understand  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/19/2018 4:19 pm : link
why RB are still viewed so heavily on rushing yards over combined rushing/receiving yards.
After the pounding he’s taken  
Hammer : 10/19/2018 4:26 pm : link
I hope he is healthy long enough to enjoy the induction ceremony.
the Colts were certainly loaded  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 10/19/2018 4:27 pm : link
which meant you couldn't stack the box against Edge, but dude was a hell of a talent. They spent a top 5 pick on him for reason. I think it's a little unfair to him that he's still waiting because of a sort of Peyton-tax the committee is putting on him.

I think Gore is deserving, but I do think he's an extreme case of longevity being the main reason they make the hall.

For example, would you rather Barkley ended up having the career of Tiki or Frank Gore?

Give me Tiki’s career because those 5 years of elite play made a bigger difference in winning games than those extra seasons of above-average accumulation.
100%  
BigBluesman : 10/19/2018 5:09 pm : link
A player not of his time.
When you guys say an RB dies after 30....  
NINEster : 10/19/2018 7:04 pm : link
think of Gore and let him be in the HoF.

The guy was an animal pre-Harbaugh and managed to stay relevant for so long.

He was questionable after leaving the Niners, but since then he's proven his worth.
RE: Yes  
NINEster : 10/19/2018 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14135888 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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but Tiki had the better career imo.

Gore has had an amazing career though after the injury he had in college.


Many RBs had better seasons here and there.

Doesn't matter.

Gore 2006-2010 was legit top 3 RB in the NFL playing with out a star QB, no star skill position WRs, OC, etc. and still producing. If Harbaugh arrived to the 49ers a year or two earlier, Gore signlehandedly would have carried Smith or Kaepernick to a Lombardi or two. Easily, the way Lynch carried Wilson.

The fact that he continues to produce is a sign of his legit talent with his vision and knowledge of how to play the RB position.

I'll concede the Peterson was the better talent. But no guarantee he will outpace Gore in yards. For that reason alone, gotta give respect.

He belongs in the HOF  
Jay on the Island : 10/19/2018 7:27 pm : link
his consistency and career numbers are enough to get in. I remember when he entered the draft and he fell to the 3rd round because of injuries. It's ironic that teams didn't think he would stay healthy in the NFL.
First ballot...  
EricJ : 10/19/2018 7:31 pm : link
Not only for what he achieved on the field but he has the ultimate respect from the other players around the league as well as from those who will be voting.
Yes, he’s going in  
Leg of Theismann : 10/19/2018 9:31 pm : link
People seem to have a particular concept of who they think should get into the HOF, but in reality, it’s 5 dudes every single year and that results in certain players getting in. I personally don’t agree with Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis going in, but that’s how it goes and there’s no way I’m keeping Gore out if those guys are in.
The most quiet  
giantsFC : 10/19/2018 9:59 pm : link
Trip to 15k yards ever.

Where did the years go? And where did he get all these yards?

What a low key careeer this guy snuck in.

Def hall of fame for his durability. Too bad the giants didn’t sign him instead of Shane Vereeniging or no-nothing Stewart.
It’s the NFL and he’s a running back  
trueblueinpw : 10/19/2018 11:24 pm : link
Accumulation counts.
but of course  
uconngiant : 10/19/2018 11:43 pm : link
He has the yards and longevity which puts him in without a doubt.
edge james is better  
hassan : 10/19/2018 11:54 pm : link
so is AP. So is Tiki. Tiki’s last three years were bonkers.

the problem is he gets in if Curtis Martin does.

Meanwhile players like Torry Holt who was a more dominant player in his prime does not. As well as the backs mentioned.

The hall has become very arbitrary.
100% yes -  
rdt288 : 10/20/2018 10:12 am : link
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Does the Keenan McCardell argument apply here ?  
TommytheElephant : 10/20/2018 10:18 am : link
...
Who’s left a bigger mark on the nfl these last 10-15 years  
djm : 10/20/2018 10:43 am : link
Eli Manning
Frank gore

Take your time.
RE: First ballot...  
djm : 10/20/2018 10:44 am : link
In comment 14136212 EricJ said:
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Not only for what he achieved on the field but he has the ultimate respect from the other players around the league as well as from those who will be voting.


First ballot???? No way.

RE: Tiki  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 10/20/2018 10:55 am : link
In comment 14135978 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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was better than Gore. Tiki decided to retire in his prime (for health reasons as well as what he thought were other lucrative professional opportunities). Had Tiki played until the wheels fell off, his numbers would be incredible.


Yet, it was no accident that the Giants finally returned to the Super Bowl the year after Tiki retired. (And they also won that game against the previously undefeated Patriots with Shockey in the stands drinking an adult beverage.) It's a team game, and there can be players who you are better off without!
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