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Sean : 10/20/2018 8:16 am
The Jets are getting a ton of praise for drafting Darnold, but a few months earlier they were offering Kirk Cousins the richest QB contract in NFL history. Would that have been smart? The Vikings bailed out the Jets & are getting worse results this year for it. The point is, sometimes the right decision is made later or teams fall back to the right decision.

I bring this up with regards to Barkley & the Giants. If you think QB should have been the play, you can still acknowledge how well Barkley has played in addition to being a grown up in the locker room. What if Lauletta fits Shurmurs scheme and runs an efficient offense similar to Keemun last year? If Lauletta doesnt cut it, then we go QB in 2020.

I totally get the argument that the Giants are wasting time right now, but Rosen is getting pounded & Allen is already hurt. Darnold looks good & his demeanor/attitude fit NYG franchise QB. But, Barkleys demeanor/attitude is pretty damn impressive as well.

I do think Lauletta needs to start ASAP though. Barring being 3-5 at the bye, I would encourage the Giants to give Lauletta the reigns @SF in a few weeks. That is a full half season of playing time.
It just depends on what the Giants do from here on out  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/20/2018 8:23 am : link
thats basically it re "the right move"

But this is a message board, all we can do is speculate. And complain about speculating.
You're wasting your  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/20/2018 8:37 am : link
Time. The goal is to win a Super Bowl. The top
3 QBs for the last 10 years and still Today are. Brees Brady and Rodgers. Taken. Brady out and Brees and Rodgers have the same amount ofnSB wins as Eli.

If Barkley busts they can shit on the Giants. But he looks every bit as goood as advertised. The same assholes wanted Laquan Treadwell two years ago.

You need it all. Great coaching great players and a bit of luck. Darnold may be a great QB but the Giants were broken in every facet. The mantra that at least some of theses teams who drafted are better off just for having one is moronic. If Winston and Marriota were here last draft they'd have gone Just as early. 3 years later are those two teams fans feeling better s a young QB

AGAIN this place has devolved into ranting and useless stat posts by too many people
Vikings are ready to win now....  
Tark10 : 10/20/2018 8:56 am : link
That is why they went after Cousins. AND... He is having a great year so far. Vikes made the right decision.
RE: Vikings are ready to win now....  
superspynyg : 10/20/2018 9:34 am : link
In comment 14136422 Tark10 said:
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That is why they went after Cousins. AND... He is having a great year so far. Vikes made the right decision.


If only there Def would wake the fuck up and start playing like a champ caliber def.
Too many annoying troll bbi'ers  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2018 10:18 am : link
Think the Jets are the gold standard hallowed franchise QB factory. Same old annoying crap with Sanchez and Ryan around.

A fish rots from the head, like our NY Browns.
Yeah, Cousins is 30 years old, on pace for over 5000 yards  
shyster : 10/20/2018 10:19 am : link
completing 71 percent, 12 TDS, only 3 INTS, QB rating of 102.

Some "bail out."

Jets, to all current appearances, made two right decisions, one of which they were able to follow through on.

I'm not sure what the Jets wanting Cousins  
ZogZerg : 10/20/2018 11:16 am : link
Loosing out on him and taking a top QB prospect in the draft have anything to do with Giants taking Barkley?

Is your point that it is a QB league and you need a really good on to have a shot?
Yeah, I wouldn't have been advocating to pay Cousins that money  
jcn56 : 10/20/2018 11:36 am : link
myself, but it's hard to point at him and say it was a bad idea.
RE: Too many annoying troll bbi'ers  
ajr2456 : 10/20/2018 11:38 am : link
In comment 14136468 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Think the Jets are the gold standard hallowed franchise QB factory. Same old annoying crap with Sanchez and Ryan around.

A fish rots from the head, like our NY Browns.


Youre unbearable. Nobody thinks this.
To be fair  
ajr2456 : 10/20/2018 11:40 am : link
Free agency happens before the draft, and the Jets didnt know whether they would be in a position to draft Darnold.

They traded up to third two days after Cousins signed, which still didnt guarantee them the QB that they coveted.
RE: You're wasting your  
kcgiants : 10/20/2018 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14136413 LauderdaleMatty said:
[quote] Time. The goal is to win a Super Bowl. The top
3 QBs for the last 10 years and still Today are. Brees Brady and Rodgers. Taken. Brady out and Brees and Rodgers have the same amount ofnSB wins as Eli.

I know everyone wants to bash Eli but he won more SBs than Brees and Rogers. And head to head, Eli is 2-0 against Brady and I will always be grateful but it is time to move on just like Montana, willfully or unwillfully. All Giants fans should and will always to be grateful to him
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Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2018 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14136537 ajr2456 said:
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Think the Jets are the gold standard hallowed franchise QB factory. Same old annoying crap with Sanchez and Ryan around.

A fish rots from the head, like our NY Browns.



Youre unbearable. Nobody thinks this.

But but but Gettleman fuk'd up! I saw Darnell mic'd up where he put the dagger in the hearts of powerhouse Colts defense!
Matty  
joeinpa : 10/20/2018 12:31 pm : link
Very impressive, "devolved " I was thinking more along the lines of evolved, but well played. 👍
Not sure  
mdthedream : 10/20/2018 12:33 pm : link
what you are talking about Cousins is better than Darnold. Plus they than could have added another piece or two in the draft.
Cousins and Barkley would have made a nice combo for the Giants  
wgenesis123 : 10/20/2018 5:43 pm : link
if you were willing to just dump Eli Manning. I am glad the Giants didn't go down that road and I hope Eli retires before someone shows him the door. This team is years away from competing at a high level. The Giants can wait as long as they like to get their QB right now. If a QB they view as really special (like Barkley was) is there next draft, they will take him. If not they focus on the O-line and D-line and wait another year for a QB. This is an old-fashioned 3 year rebuild.
RE: Cousins and Barkley would have made a nice combo for the Giants  
JOrthman : 10/20/2018 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14136870 wgenesis123 said:
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if you were willing to just dump Eli Manning. I am glad the Giants didn't go down that road and I hope Eli retires before someone shows him the door. This team is years away from competing at a high level. The Giants can wait as long as they like to get their QB right now. If a QB they view as really special (like Barkley was) is there next draft, they will take him. If not they focus on the O-line and D-line and wait another year for a QB. This is an old-fashioned 3 year rebuild.


That couldn't of happened due to Eli's contract and would of stopped them from signing anyone based on what Cousins wanted.
Cousins  
fanofthejets : 10/21/2018 12:29 am : link
Getting Cousins would've changed our approach to 2018 and beyond. And I like Cousins. Think he would've done well with us, but you would've definitely see Mac go for a more aggressive and risky win now approach in terms of signing free agents if we had gotten Cousins.

Now that we have Darnold on such a cheap contract (for now) we can set ourselves up for more lasting long term success. With Cousins you would be looking at hopefully a 3 year window and a lot of uncertainty after that.

Luck had something to do with it. The Jets loved Darnold from the start but never thought he'd be there considering the franchises ahead of them that desperately needed a QB
RE: Too many annoying troll bbi'ers  
fanofthejets : 10/21/2018 12:32 am : link
In comment 14136468 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Think the Jets are the gold standard hallowed franchise QB factory. Same old annoying crap with Sanchez and Ryan around.

A fish rots from the head, like our NY Browns.


This is nothing like Rex and Sanchez. Darnold is light years ahead of Sanchez in his development. At a younger age too.
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fanofthejets : 10/21/2018 12:35 am : link
In comment 14136571 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14136468 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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Think the Jets are the gold standard hallowed franchise QB factory. Same old annoying crap with Sanchez and Ryan around.

A fish rots from the head, like our NY Browns.



Youre unbearable. Nobody thinks this.


But but but Gettleman fuk'd up! I saw Darnell mic'd up where he put the dagger in the hearts of powerhouse Colts defense!


Darnold can't choose his opponents. But it was nice to see him go in there and win a game for us when the Jets played like crap.
The Jets knew the draft order when they considered paying Cousins  
Go Terps : 10/21/2018 5:21 am : link
They may not have thought we'd be dumb enough to pass on Darnold.

Well, our "algorithm" proved otherwise.
RE: The Jets knew the draft order when they considered paying Cousins  
ajr2456 : 10/21/2018 6:37 am : link
In comment 14137183 Go Terps said:
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They may not have thought we'd be dumb enough to pass on Darnold.

Well, our "algorithm" proved otherwise.


They didnt know they be picking third yet though
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