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QB Justin Herbert Watch: #12 Oregon @ #25 Washington State

Anakim : 10/20/2018 9:21 am
7:30 PM on Fox.


Herbert faces another tough test. Wazzu has beaten Oregon the last three times they've met (Herbert missed last year's game with a broken collarbone). Also, Wazzu has won 10 straight at home, so we'll see if Herbert can help break that streak.


S Jalen Thompson is the leader of Wazzu's secondary and will likely be a Day 2 pick in April if he declares.
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Good Lord  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:08 pm : link
What a rifle to Herbert. That was an incredible throw.
*by  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:08 pm : link
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RE: No Thanks  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14137002 WillVAB said:
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The Giants can get shut out and lose by 30 with a QB already on the roster.


And now Oregon is down by 10...
The kid is showing  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 10:14 pm : link
A ton of arm and moxie right now. The playcalling has been adjusted and he is showing off his talent.


He comes back to win this one after being down 27 and that will be a big statement.
I dunno the kid is putting the offense on his back  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/20/2018 10:16 pm : link
He's running throwing making plays any way he can. Isn't that what you want in a franchise QB?
RE: Emil  
Emil : 10/20/2018 10:17 pm : link
In comment 14137049 Joey in VA said:
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It's season long and play to play, you watch the guy and you see the traits and you know this. I see people claiming he's #1 overall then this week a bunch of pass because he's not winning against a very good defense. It's just unreal. It's a year long process of play and ups and downs, combine, workouts, interviews and everything else that matters. It's not one throw or one run or one half that makes or breaks anyone and if it was Eli would have won zero games in this league. It's about a body of work and the knee jerk idiocy I see here just fries my circuits. This isn't emotional, watching your team IS, this is fair evaluation and I see none of it here. I know you know your stuff, but go back and read the dopeyness, it's rampant.


Joey, I hear you and agree. We arenít even in November yet and some have made up their minds. My questions about Herbert have nothing to do with ability. I am concerned when I hear him described as an introvert. The Giants need a leader. Hopefully his full personality comes out in an interview. I also want to see what he does when he needs to put his team in his back. Thankfully this 2nd half is nothing like the first half.

Have to say the young man is impressing the heck out of me right now. Iím seeing what I was hoping to see. Heís responding to adversity, heís leading, heís cool and decisive under pressure. Everything else is burning down around him and he is ballin at the moment. If this is the QB he is, then heís worth the #1 pick.
RE: I dunno the kid is putting the offense on his back  
Joey in VA : 10/20/2018 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14137062 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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He's running throwing making plays any way he can. Isn't that what you want in a franchise QB?
No Larry he had a bad half of football, he can't be good.
RE: RE: I dunno the kid is putting the offense on his back  
Emil : 10/20/2018 10:20 pm : link
In comment 14137065 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 14137062 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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He's running throwing making plays any way he can. Isn't that what you want in a franchise QB?

Clearly the second half is a mirage.

No Larry he had a bad half of football, he can't be good.
That WR for Oregon  
Joey in VA : 10/20/2018 10:21 pm : link
#9, no idea what his prospects are but that kid is a tough SOB.
RE: RE: Emil  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14137064 Emil said:
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In comment 14137049 Joey in VA said:


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It's season long and play to play, you watch the guy and you see the traits and you know this. I see people claiming he's #1 overall then this week a bunch of pass because he's not winning against a very good defense. It's just unreal. It's a year long process of play and ups and downs, combine, workouts, interviews and everything else that matters. It's not one throw or one run or one half that makes or breaks anyone and if it was Eli would have won zero games in this league. It's about a body of work and the knee jerk idiocy I see here just fries my circuits. This isn't emotional, watching your team IS, this is fair evaluation and I see none of it here. I know you know your stuff, but go back and read the dopeyness, it's rampant.



Joey, I hear you and agree. We arenít even in November yet and some have made up their minds. My questions about Herbert have nothing to do with ability. I am concerned when I hear him described as an introvert. The Giants need a leader. Hopefully his full personality comes out in an interview. I also want to see what he does when he needs to put his team in his back. Thankfully this 2nd half is nothing like the first half.

Have to say the young man is impressing the heck out of me right now. Iím seeing what I was hoping to see. Heís responding to adversity, heís leading, heís cool and decisive under pressure. Everything else is burning down around him and he is ballin at the moment. If this is the QB he is, then heís worth the #1 pick.


Darnold is an introvert too. Darnold's boring, man, and you know what? That's fine. I don't need a Baker Mayfield or a Cam Newton.
RE: RE: RE: Emil  
Emil : 10/20/2018 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14137069 Anakim said:
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In comment 14137064 Emil said:


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In comment 14137049 Joey in VA said:


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It's season long and play to play, you watch the guy and you see the traits and you know this. I see people claiming he's #1 overall then this week a bunch of pass because he's not winning against a very good defense. It's just unreal. It's a year long process of play and ups and downs, combine, workouts, interviews and everything else that matters. It's not one throw or one run or one half that makes or breaks anyone and if it was Eli would have won zero games in this league. It's about a body of work and the knee jerk idiocy I see here just fries my circuits. This isn't emotional, watching your team IS, this is fair evaluation and I see none of it here. I know you know your stuff, but go back and read the dopeyness, it's rampant.



Joey, I hear you and agree. We arenít even in November yet and some have made up their minds. My questions about Herbert have nothing to do with ability. I am concerned when I hear him described as an introvert. The Giants need a leader. Hopefully his full personality comes out in an interview. I also want to see what he does when he needs to put his team in his back. Thankfully this 2nd half is nothing like the first half.

Have to say the young man is impressing the heck out of me right now. Iím seeing what I was hoping to see. Heís responding to adversity, heís leading, heís cool and decisive under pressure. Everything else is burning down around him and he is ballin at the moment. If this is the QB he is, then heís worth the #1 pick.



Darnold is an introvert too. Darnold's boring, man, and you know what? That's fine. I don't need a Baker Mayfield or a Cam Newton.


Boring is ok with me, I love boring. Itís one of the reasons why I love Eli. I just donít want timid. It really all depends what they mean by introvert.

Tell you what, heís certainly not playing timid at the moment.
Herbert's coming up big  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:34 pm : link
Very cool making those third and fourth down throws
Good Lord  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:35 pm : link
What a laser by Herbert
RE: Good Lord  
Joey in VA : 10/20/2018 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14137081 Anakim said:
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What a laser by Herbert
Dude people didn't like his first half how can you argue with that based on improved play? You so crazy.
SHit  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:36 pm : link
Herbert's hurt. He got drilled in the stomach.
That was gorgeous  
Emil : 10/20/2018 10:37 pm : link
What a throw.

Great body position by #9
This kid has  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 10:37 pm : link
A fucking HOSE.
One possession game  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:38 pm : link
Herbert may have the chance to play hero
RE: One possession game  
Emil : 10/20/2018 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14137089 Anakim said:
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Herbert may have the chance to play hero


So...if introvert = Iceman under pressure, then Iím good with it.
RE: RE: I dunno the kid is putting the offense on his back  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/20/2018 10:40 pm : link
In comment 14137065 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 14137062 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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He's running throwing making plays any way he can. Isn't that what you want in a franchise QB?

No Larry he had a bad half of football, he can't be good.


Ok Joey let's pack it up he sux
RE: RE: One possession game  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14137091 Emil said:
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Herbert may have the chance to play hero



So...if introvert = Iceman under pressure, then Iím good with it.


He's a unique dude. He wants to be a doctor after his football career is over. He has a 4.0 GPA as a biology major. He volunteered in Uganda to help build a basketball court.
The kid sucks  
micky : 10/20/2018 10:42 pm : link
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Heís sold me  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2018 10:43 pm : link
He doesnít have a lot to work with but he has risen to the occasion. He has some SERIOUS skills! Plus heís tough. He got blasted on that second down play. Picked his ass up and went back to work.Hes got the whole package and will keep getting better.
RE: RE: Good Lord  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/20/2018 10:44 pm : link
In comment 14137083 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 14137081 Anakim said:


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What a laser by Herbert

Dude people didn't like his first half how can you argue with that based on improved play? You so crazy.


Sorry there are no more QBs to draft and no more halves of football left to evaluate
Nice throw by Minshew  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:48 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: One possession game  
Emil : 10/20/2018 10:49 pm : link
In comment 14137093 Anakim said:
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In comment 14137089 Anakim said:


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Herbert may have the chance to play hero



So...if introvert = Iceman under pressure, then Iím good with it.



He's a unique dude. He wants to be a doctor after his football career is over. He has a 4.0 GPA as a biology major. He volunteered in Uganda to help build a basketball court.


All good things! Well grounded
Give it up for the Wazzu QB  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 10:49 pm : link
Nice drive there
Oregonís defense looks like the Giants defense  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2018 10:51 pm : link
He should feel right at home next year.
His Receivers and Defense  
Emil : 10/20/2018 11:03 pm : link
Did him no favors in this game. He played far better than last week. I was impressed.
That Jalen Thompson has incredible range  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 11:04 pm : link
Really impressed with what I saw from him tonight.
RE: Nice throw by Minshew  
EricJ : 10/20/2018 11:11 pm : link
In comment 14137106 Anakim said:
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Minshew looks like a porn star from the 70s. From now on, I am calling him Boogie Nights
Is Mishnew even a top prospect?  
bradshaw44 : 10/20/2018 11:11 pm : link
He sure seems like he believes he is.
He also looks  
bradshaw44 : 10/20/2018 11:12 pm : link
Like heís 43 years old. Uncle Rico.
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Go Terps : 10/21/2018 1:03 am : link
You can tell who is going to be making excuses for Herbert all the way to the draft as a function of justifying the Barkley pick.
RE: .  
Strahan91 : 10/21/2018 1:29 am : link
In comment 14137156 Go Terps said:
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You can tell who is going to be making excuses for Herbert all the way to the draft as a function of justifying the Barkley pick.

Give it a rest. This thread has nothing to do with the 2018 draft but since you decided to make it about that, I suggest you go check out Darnoldís game against the same team last year.
Herbert didnt  
chopperhatch : 10/21/2018 1:47 am : link
Have a great number of botched opportunities. The Oregon offensive gameplan is fucking gross. Like, I really hate it. That said, there were several times where he gunned the ball to make something happen and badly overthrew his receiver. Yes, it may have been because he wanted to try and throw the ball where only his guy could possibly get it otherwise its just an incompletion. But the really good QBs find a way to throw their receivers open by putting some loft on the ball and sending it up the sideline a piece.

I do like how he moves when chased or when the pocket is folding. I think his scrambling ability is very overrated. He may have good speed for a QB, but he seems to take half measures when he is pushed to run.

I liked what Jones showed quite a bitmore. More decisive, throws with more touch and when he decides to run, he knows how to move the chains. I think he is built more solid and I think he makes quicker decisions.
Barring some type of monumental movement  
dep026 : 10/21/2018 7:50 am : link
Herbert May be the only QB taken in the first round.

The other may be way too risky to take in the first round.
RE: No Thanks  
Mike from Ohio : 10/21/2018 9:03 am : link
In comment 14137002 WillVAB said:
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The Giants can get shut out and lose by 30 with a QB already on the roster.


This is just way beyond stupid, even given your history of clueless talent evaluation.
Yes long way to go watching Herbert  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/21/2018 9:05 am : link
The other prospects donít seem as clean. Giants should not force a QB this year if he isnít there.
RE: .  
Mike from Ohio : 10/21/2018 9:10 am : link
In comment 14137156 Go Terps said:
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You can tell who is going to be making excuses for Herbert all the way to the draft as a function of justifying the Barkley pick.


And you can tell who drops into these threads to continue selling their narrative and opinions with a mind shut as tightly as possible to any new or contrary information.

I used to enjoy your posts, but this ďfollow me or all is lostĒ mantra is tired and uninteresting.
RE: RE: .  
crick n NC : 10/21/2018 9:16 am : link
In comment 14137269 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 14137156 Go Terps said:


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You can tell who is going to be making excuses for Herbert all the way to the draft as a function of justifying the Barkley pick.



I used to enjoy your posts, but this ďfollow me or all is lostĒ mantra is tired and uninteresting.


👍
RE: Emil  
Thegratefulhead : 10/21/2018 10:15 am : link
In comment 14137049 Joey in VA said:
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It's season long and play to play, you watch the guy and you see the traits and you know this. I see people claiming he's #1 overall then this week a bunch of pass because he's not winning against a very good defense. It's just unreal. It's a year long process of play and ups and downs, combine, workouts, interviews and everything else that matters. It's not one throw or one run or one half that makes or breaks anyone and if it was Eli would have won zero games in this league. It's about a body of work and the knee jerk idiocy I see here just fries my circuits. This isn't emotional, watching your team IS, this is fair evaluation and I see none of it here. I know you know your stuff, but go back and read the dopeyness, it's rampant.
People are stupid. This is rule number 1. I guess a QB that plays a bad half or game the week after a big OT win against a long time rival is officially terrible. This IS equally as stupid as claiming a declining and aging QB that plays 2 decent games out 23 is still divine. THE STUPID IS STRONG.
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Go Terps : 10/21/2018 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14137269 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 14137156 Go Terps said:


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You can tell who is going to be making excuses for Herbert all the way to the draft as a function of justifying the Barkley pick.



And you can tell who drops into these threads to continue selling their narrative and opinions with a mind shut as tightly as possible to any new or contrary information.

I used to enjoy your posts, but this ďfollow me or all is lostĒ mantra is tired and uninteresting.


I'm not trying to get anyone to follow me. I'm just trying to understand the BS narratives that are generated by the people that think the Giants can do no wrong despite the avalanche of evidence to the contrary.
blah  
Banks : 10/21/2018 1:24 pm : link
I bet the chargers to cover -1.5. With the Giants sucking, my only entertainment is doing some parlays
whoops  
Banks : 10/21/2018 1:25 pm : link
wrong thread
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BigBlueShock : 10/21/2018 1:52 pm : link
In comment 14137269 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 14137156 Go Terps said:


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You can tell who is going to be making excuses for Herbert all the way to the draft as a function of justifying the Barkley pick.



And you can tell who drops into these threads to continue selling their narrative and opinions with a mind shut as tightly as possible to any new or contrary information.

I used to enjoy your posts, but this ďfollow me or all is lostĒ mantra is tired and uninteresting.

Itís a well known fact that there are posters on this site that would rather be ďrightĒ, than wrong. They will never admit it, but itís absolutely the case. GoTerps is the leader of that pack. His arrogance knows no bounds. There is no doubt that he is hoping Herbert sucks. Heís busting on others, but heís not exactly watching with an unbiased mind either. For the opposite reason as heís accusing others.

The best part is, heís often admitted to not watching much college football. Yet heís continuously the expert on the matter. Iíve never come across anyone thatís thought so highly of themselves in my life. Itís incredibly comical, really. The bottom line for him is, if the Giants land a QB in the next draft and he turns out to be the goods, Terps knows heís spent an insane amount of hours on here bitching moaning and complaining, telling everyone how screwed the Giants are for the rest of eternity, and it would be all an incredible waste of time. Heís invested at this point. His monsterously inflated ego depends on Herbert sucking and the Giants being stuck in QB hell forever
I've got no reason to hope Herbert sucks  
Go Terps : 10/21/2018 2:50 pm : link
I just think there's a narrative being put together that props up Herbert as a function of justifying the Barkley pick as though it was part of the Giants' grand plan.

There are posters on BBI that can't accept the possibility that the Giants don't know what the hell they're doing. Any move the Giants make will be supported by these posters.

I've said it before: the Giants could draft an inanimate carbon rod and there would be posters here saying it was the right move.
I donít want Herbert at this point..  
Sean : 10/21/2018 2:54 pm : link
Start Lauletta next year, trade Beckham & build up the lines.
RE: I donít want Herbert at this point..  
Go Terps : 10/21/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14137576 Sean said:
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Start Lauletta next year, trade Beckham & build up the lines.


Bortles just got benched in Jacksonville. If ever there were a time to call them about Eli, it's now.
RE: RE: I donít want Herbert at this point..  
FStubbs : 10/21/2018 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14137591 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14137576 Sean said:


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Start Lauletta next year, trade Beckham & build up the lines.



Bortles just got benched in Jacksonville. If ever there were a time to call them about Eli, it's now.


I don't think Eli wants to be reunited with Ereck Flowers.
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