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chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 1:41 pm
Herbert thread is what it is.


Daniel Jones on now. Down 14-0 to UVA. He is plagied by drops, but just threw a deep ball into double coverage which led to a pick. Had a very nice run for the 1st on 3rd and 11.

Finley with 16 NC State v. 3 Clemson at 3:30 might be the game of the day.

Lock w/ Mizzou v. Memphis at 4

Of course Herbert plays tonight.
The Greg Effect  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 1:46 pm : link
Daniel Jones has 23 interceptions in his career. Eight of those (over 34%) have come against Virginia.
RE: The Greg Effect  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14136654 Anakim said:
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Daniel Jones has 23 interceptions in his career. Eight of those (over 34%) have come against Virginia.


Yea not a great decision. If he had a playmaker like Herbert has in Mitchell I would have been okay with it.

You can tell Duke just doesnt have quality at the skill positions to allow Jones to make plays
Tyrell Jackson  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 1:56 pm : link
This guy was a sleeper 1st round choice.

Yikes!
Checking this game out at 3:30est  
Foobarbaz : 10/20/2018 2:06 pm : link
Herbert looks inaccurate, I'm liking Finley and Will Grier more but let's see after tonight
RE: Checking this game out at 3:30est  
BigBlueShock : 10/20/2018 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14136683 Foobarbaz said:
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Herbert looks inaccurate, I'm liking Finley and Will Grier more but let's see after tonight

I don’t think inaccurate means what you think it does
RE: RE: Checking this game out at 3:30est  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14136685 BigBlueShock said:
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Herbert looks inaccurate, I'm liking Finley and Will Grier more but let's see after tonight


I don’t think inaccurate means what you think it does


Maybe he meant his post was inaccurate?
Yea Herbert is plenty accurate.  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 2:11 pm : link
Will Grier on the other hand? He's inaccurately portrayed as a 1dt round prospect.
RE: Yea Herbert is plenty accurate.  
Foobarbaz : 10/20/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 14136690 chopperhatch said:
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Will Grier on the other hand? He's inaccurately portrayed as a 1dt round prospect.


Herbert 62% completions vs Will Grier 71% completions.

Grier looks better to me on the eye test
RE: RE: Yea Herbert is plenty accurate.  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14136694 Foobarbaz said:
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Will Grier on the other hand? He's inaccurately portrayed as a 1dt round prospect.



Herbert 62% completions vs Will Grier 71% completions.

Grier looks better to me on the eye test


Maybe inaccurate was the wrong stat to be critical of for Grier. But he certainly hangs on to the far too long to the tune of 12 sacks the last two weeks from habging to the ball too long.


Jones with a rifle pass down the sideline for a TD out of halftine. 14-7 VA. Quick decision, got it to the receiver in stride and made the throw look easy.
Michigan's defense  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 2:29 pm : link
Is TOUGH. Very fast and they hit.
Rutgers is winning...  
jnoble : 10/20/2018 2:32 pm : link
Oh my God, can you believe it? They might win a game today!
RE: RE: Yea Herbert is plenty accurate.  
Mike in NY : 10/20/2018 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14136694 Foobarbaz said:
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Will Grier on the other hand? He's inaccurately portrayed as a 1dt round prospect.



Herbert 62% completions vs Will Grier 71% completions.

Grier looks better to me on the eye test


Grier plays in a more QB friendly system and is throwing to better players. Oregon maybe has one WR and a bunch of RB's. Seen Herbert being victimized by more drops than a QB at a program like Oregon should have to deal with. I liked Grier more earlier on, but watching him lately he really does not have an internal clock of where the pass rush is (that can be good because he won't throw it away thinking he is under pressure when he isn't, but too often it just means he is taking sacks)
Another stinking drop  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 2:43 pm : link
For Jones on 3rd. He has to have the worst receivers of the group being discussed.
Quinn Nordin  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 2:45 pm : link
Sucks as much as Michigan’s offense.
RE: Another stinking drop  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14136718 chopperhatch said:
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For Jones on 3rd. He has to have the worst receivers of the group being discussed.

Honestly. The guy has dropped some beautiful passes in his WRs hands and they just drop them time after time.
If Jones plus this comeback off  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 3:05 pm : link
He gets extra points from me. His team really has let him down today.
RE: If Jones plus this comeback off  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14136739 GoDeep13 said:
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He gets extra points from me. His team really has let him down today.


Indeed he is very VERY cool throughout all of this. Doesnt get frustrated. Very Eli like and he makes great decisions when he runs for it.
RE: If Jones plus this comeback off  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14136739 GoDeep13 said:
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He gets extra points from me. His team really has let him down today.


This would be two comebacks in a row right?
Haskins at 730p too  
Strahan91 : 10/20/2018 3:23 pm : link
There is apparently some buzz that he may declare after this season. He’s the one qb I’m most intrigued with after Herbert. Definitely need to see more though and against better competition once the schedule picks up.
Smart to eat that one.  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 3:25 pm : link
His line is letting him down now.
THAT sack was on Jones. Held the  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 3:26 pm : link
Ball waaaaaay too long.
Harbaugh  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 3:30 pm : link
Seat must feel like 1000000 degrees right now. Outcoachced once again by D’antoni.
RE: Rutgers is winning...  
jnoble : 10/20/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14136712 jnoble said:
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Oh my God, can you believe it? They might win a game today!


NEEEEEEEEVER MIND
Shea pattrson  
KWhite2250 : 10/20/2018 3:37 pm : link
Fucking sucks. Talk about overhyped
RE: Shea pattrson  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14136757 KWhite2250 said:
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Fucking sucks. Talk about overhyped


Maybe if they let him throw it on another down other the 3rd we could actually know what he can do.
Fucking cursed  
KWhite2250 : 10/20/2018 3:40 pm : link
Against michigan st. Same shit every year
RE: Fucking cursed  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14136761 KWhite2250 said:
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Against michigan st. Same shit every year


Same shit coach. It’s amazing how pathetic of an offense he runs year in and year out.
Run on first run on 2nd  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 3:51 pm : link
Pressure on 3rd

THROW THE BALL ON FIRST FUCKING DOWN JUST ONE TIME!!!

He can’t get fired soon enough.
I know he's not draft-eligible next year, but Tua is amazing.  
PetesHereNow : 10/20/2018 3:53 pm : link
Just such good command of the game.
RE: Run on first run on 2nd  
KWhite2250 : 10/20/2018 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14136766 dep026 said:
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Pressure on 3rd

THROW THE BALL ON FIRST FUCKING DOWN JUST ONE TIME!!!

He can’t get fired soon enough.


There you go!
RE: RE: Run on first run on 2nd  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14136772 KWhite2250 said:
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Pressure on 3rd

THROW THE BALL ON FIRST FUCKING DOWN JUST ONE TIME!!!

He can’t get fired soon enough.



There you go!


Amazing isn’t it?
RE: Yea Herbert is plenty accurate.  
tyrik13 : 10/20/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14136690 chopperhatch said:
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Will Grier on the other hand? He's inaccurately portrayed as a 1dt round prospect.


Facts
Shea patterson  
KWhite2250 : 10/20/2018 4:21 pm : link
Telling me to shut up. Great fakes on those runs
Michigan has been running  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 4:36 pm : link
The ball down MSU's throats this 2nd half.

Why risk chucking it when u can grind it out with that defense.

Geez, man  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 4:38 pm : link
Lawrence can really sling it
D'Antonio is only good  
section125 : 10/20/2018 4:46 pm : link
for trick plays.....
RE: D'Antonio is only good  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14136813 section125 said:
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for trick plays.....


Yea I didnt get the "outcoaching Harbaugh" thing. He has completely controlled this game in the second.
RE: Michigan has been running  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 14136804 chopperhatch said:
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The ball down MSU's throats this 2nd half.

Why risk chucking it when u can grind it out with that defense.


They got control of the game by throwing it.
Finley has a very weak arm  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 4:50 pm : link
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RE: Finley has a very weak arm  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14136819 Anakim said:
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I was just going to post about that lollipop out he threw and almost had picked. I wouldnt say "very week", but he doesnt gun throws like he should.
RE: RE: Finley has a very weak arm  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14136821 chopperhatch said:
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I was just going to post about that lollipop out he threw and almost had picked. I wouldnt say "very week", but he doesnt gun throws like he should.



Very weak. Fuck me.
Geez  
Kyle in NY : 10/20/2018 4:57 pm : link
you Michigan fans sure are quick to turn on your team. Nice win in a tough environment.

November 24 looking like a de facto play in game
Thos QB from Indiana Penix  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 5:05 pm : link
Has very nice pocket awareness and a nice zippy ball.
its Bama and Ohio State this year  
BigBlueCane : 10/20/2018 5:10 pm : link
and maybe Clemson.
Finley is absolutely dreadful  
BigBlueShock : 10/20/2018 5:13 pm : link
Maybe he’s just having a rough game, but from what he’s showing today, he makes Kyle Lauletta look like he’s got a howitzer in comparison
Not a great half of football for Finley  
AcesUp : 10/20/2018 5:20 pm : link
This game is a huge test for him and he's failing miserably.
RE: its Bama and Ohio State this year  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2018 5:25 pm : link
In comment 14136842 BigBlueCane said:
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and maybe Clemson.


Don't forget the Irish!
RE: Not a great half of football for Finley  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14136849 AcesUp said:
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This game is a huge test for him and he's failing miserably.


Literally none of the QBs have done shit so far today. Although Jones' receivers dropped a ton of balls.
RE: RE: its Bama and Ohio State this year  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14136853 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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and maybe Clemson.



Don't forget the Irish!


Agreed. Also, if we get a loss from Clemson or OSU, Michigan would be a tough matchup for Bama in my opinion. They run the ball very well and have a carnivorous defense. Plus Patterson hasmade some plays.

Could be fun.
RE: RE: RE: its Bama and Ohio State this year  
mdc1 : 10/20/2018 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14136855 chopperhatch said:
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and maybe Clemson.



Don't forget the Irish!



Agreed. Also, if we get a loss from Clemson or OSU, Michigan would be a tough matchup for Bama in my opinion. They run the ball very well and have a carnivorous defense. Plus Patterson hasmade some plays.

Could be fun.


lol, you cannot be serious.
Jones wasn't getting any help  
AcesUp : 10/20/2018 5:30 pm : link
His throws were on target and he was moving well. I actually liked what I saw in the glimpses I caught.
RE: RE: Not a great half of football for Finley  
crick n NC : 10/20/2018 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14136854 chopperhatch said:
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This game is a huge test for him and he's failing miserably.



Literally none of the QBs have done shit so far today. Although Jones' receivers dropped a ton of balls.


Consider his surroundings. Football is a team sport, right?
Just got back from  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2018 5:34 pm : link
gym. I see Clemson's up 24-0.

How has Finley looked?
Tua is  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 5:36 pm : link
An absolutely extraordinary player. A mix of Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. Perfect pocket presence, accurate, mobile, has a gun....if only he were coming out this year.
RE: Just got back from  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14136861 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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gym. I see Clemson's up 24-0.

How has Finley looked?


He’s making Eli look like Rodgers.
The Irish are not even remotely close to OSU or Bama  
BigBlueCane : 10/20/2018 5:39 pm : link
This Bama team would pummel them worse then the last time they met. OSU would be closer but not much.

Clemson... maybe if they can get to TyLaw, otherwise.. nope.
Haha  
BigBlueShock : 10/20/2018 5:43 pm : link
Finley is trash. Another floating lollipop for an interception
RE: RE: RE: RE: its Bama and Ohio State this year  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 5:43 pm : link
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and maybe Clemson.



Don't forget the Irish!



Agreed. Also, if we get a loss from Clemson or OSU, Michigan would be a tough matchup for Bama in my opinion. They run the ball very well and have a carnivorous defense. Plus Patterson hasmade some plays.

Could be fun.



lol, you cannot be serious.


Very serious. Did you watch the game?
RE: Haha  
markky : 10/20/2018 5:47 pm : link
In comment 14136868 BigBlueShock said:
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Finley is trash. Another floating lollipop for an interception


Finley is not the best QB on the field by a long shot. Clemon's backup Chase Brice is better.
and before anyone brings up Miami  
BigBlueCane : 10/20/2018 5:59 pm : link
Mark Richt is a very narcissistic head coach that is stuck with his 90's era offense and in doing so he's managed to piss off and alienate the fanbase. The banner planes are being funded now and will likely fly again this year, demanding changes be made.
REALLY impressed by Colorado's QB Steven Montez  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 6:00 pm : link
He may end up being my QB2 behind Herbert
Geez, Montez's O-Line blows  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 6:06 pm : link
He gets flushed out of the pocket every freakin' play
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2018 6:10 pm : link
Who the hell is this QB for Colorado? He looks good.
Daniel Jones is a much  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 6:10 pm : link
Better prospect than Findley, Grier or or Lock at this point.
RE: RE: Haha  
markky : 10/20/2018 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14136874 markky said:
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Finley is trash. Another floating lollipop for an interception



Finley is not the best QB on the field by a long shot. Clemon's backup Chase Brice is better.


Brice is now in the game and has made some nice throws.
Finley  
HoustonGiant : 10/20/2018 7:19 pm : link
was not impressive. Lots of bad throws and into coverage.
These Brad Paisley/Peyton Manning  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 7:31 pm : link
Nationeide commercials are so brutal.
RE: Run on first run on 2nd  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14136766 dep026 said:
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Pressure on 3rd

THROW THE BALL ON FIRST FUCKING DOWN JUST ONE TIME!!!

He can’t get fired soon enough.


You really want to fire him? Why? The defense gave up less than 100 yards. The run game got going in the fourth quarter, and Patterson had some nice runs. They dominated time of possession. Is it Harbaugh’s fault that Evans fumbled? They crushed Wisconsin. What exactly do you want Harbaugh to do?

The coach who deserves to be fired is Franklin. Up 33-21 today with 4 minutes left and Franklin has McSorley throw the ball three straight times. Now that’s a terrible coach.
RE: Daniel Jones is a much  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14136894 chopperhatch said:
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Better prospect than Findley, Grier or or Lock at this point.
Yep. Waiting to see how Herbert does. If he struggles I might end up having to redo my QB board. Still looking through other guys as well (keeping an eye on UCF v ECU) May even see what the Minshew hype is about.
Come on Purdue  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 7:49 pm : link
Get it done vs Ohio State.
Ive never seen that  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 7:49 pm : link
Happen before. Wow. Horribly unprepared.
RE: Ive never seen that  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14136946 chopperhatch said:
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Happen before. Wow. Horribly unprepared.


Not how you rehearse it for sure.
Jesus!  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 7:56 pm : link
What a run!!
RE: Jesus!  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 14136949 GoDeep13 said:
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What a run!!


The tackling was atrocious on that play.
Purdue drives 98 yards  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 8:19 pm : link
Up 7-0.
Well  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 8:28 pm : link
Maybe if Oregon gets down by enough the coach turns loose Herbert so that we can so when he needs to throw the ball for once.
I guess no one is watching  
Giants34 : 10/20/2018 8:32 pm : link
But Herbert is not playing well right now. And Oregon simply looks overmatched right now.
Oregon’s  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/20/2018 8:38 pm : link
Offense is trash. Run, Run, pass every possession. It’d be nice to see them throw it on 1st and 2nd down and let the qb get in a rhythm
RE: Oregon’s  
Giants34 : 10/20/2018 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14136985 GiantsRage2007 said:
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Offense is trash. Run, Run, pass every possession. It’d be nice to see them throw it on 1st and 2nd down and let the qb get in a rhythm


Agreed completely. It doesn't really matter, though, because the D can't stop anything right now. Herbert has missed throws today, too, but they only have 9 plays all half.
RE: I guess no one is watching  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 8:45 pm : link
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But Herbert is not playing well right now. And Oregon simply looks overmatched right now.


Im definitely watching and I dont think he looks all that bad. The big sack was a result of his lone completely whiffing on an assignment. His two deep throws were right there but his receivers dont have that extra gear. But I think the playcalling is holding him back
RE: RE: Oregon’s  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/20/2018 8:46 pm : link
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Offense is trash. Run, Run, pass every possession. It’d be nice to see them throw it on 1st and 2nd down and let the qb get in a rhythm



Agreed completely. It doesn't really matter, though, because the D can't stop anything right now. Herbert has missed throws today, too, but they only have 9 plays all half.


For sure. Their D is BAD!
ok, Oregon will have the ball now  
markky : 10/20/2018 8:49 pm : link
down 20 and have to start passing. this will be interesting.
Ohio State is in trouble  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 9:15 pm : link
Purdue gets a TD just before the half and it’s 14-3.
Oregon first and goal from around the 6  
markky : 10/20/2018 9:55 pm : link
runs 3 times for -4 yards. No pass attempts inside the 10. Geez.
I guess no one else is watching Purdue/Ohio State?  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 9:55 pm : link
21-6 Purdue now.
Why did Oregon  
mattyblue : 10/20/2018 9:56 pm : link
just run 3 times from the 5?
Not wTching  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 9:57 pm : link
But is Herbert playing? Stats saying someone else is in?
RE: Why did Oregon  
Giants34 : 10/20/2018 9:58 pm : link
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just run 3 times from the 5?


Because they have the worst coaching staff in the nation. Down 20 they ran three times to put themselves down 17.
Purdue's OL  
HoustonGiant : 10/20/2018 10:25 pm : link
Looks good, especially their LT.
RE: Tua is  
mittenedman : 10/20/2018 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14136862 chopperhatch said:
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An absolutely extraordinary player. A mix of Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. Perfect pocket presence, accurate, mobile, has a gun....if only he were coming out this year.


Agreed. I can't believe how good he is.
Purdue with a fantastic draw play  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 10:42 pm : link
Gashes Ohio State for a TD. 28-6 now w/11:39 left.

I’m so happy right now.
Herbert has looked better  
tyrik13 : 10/20/2018 10:43 pm : link
This second half but he definitely needs to learn to read the defense better. He's staring down his recievers too much, but overall looks better. Daniel Jones will be moving up draft boards rapidly soon. As I said before, if he had a better recieving core, he'd look much better. He's my dark horse QB pick! Findley laid a huge egg today and his stock took a hit.
RE: RE: Tua is  
tyrik13 : 10/20/2018 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14137090 mittenedman said:
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An absolutely extraordinary player. A mix of Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. Perfect pocket presence, accurate, mobile, has a gun....if only he were coming out this year.



Agreed. I can't believe how good he is.


Agree as well. His command of the offense for such a young player is extraordinary! He literally has everything you want in a QB
RE: RE: RE: Tua is  
Giants34 : 10/20/2018 10:52 pm : link
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An absolutely extraordinary player. A mix of Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. Perfect pocket presence, accurate, mobile, has a gun....if only he were coming out this year.



Agreed. I can't believe how good he is.



Agree as well. His command of the offense for such a young player is extraordinary! He literally has everything you want in a QB


Except draft eligibility. Herbert has looked very good in the second half. He plays in a juvenile offense, but you can see he is still making reads.
RE: Herbert has looked better  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 10:54 pm : link
In comment 14137097 tyrik13 said:
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This second half but he definitely needs to learn to read the defense better. He's staring down his recievers too much, but overall looks better. Daniel Jones will be moving up draft boards rapidly soon. As I said before, if he had a better recieving core, he'd look much better. He's my dark horse QB pick! Findley laid a huge egg today and his stock took a hit.


Agreed. Every QBs warts were shown today. Out of it all I think Jones performed the best of the potential draft eligible guys. Like you said. Had Jones’s receivers caught their passes today he’d look a lot better stat wise.
To me this draft class looks pretty weak  
nyjuggernaut2 : 10/20/2018 11:11 pm : link
may be best for Giants to go BPA in round 1, and then take a QB with 2nd round pick. Sucks Tua is still a year away from eligibility.
49-20 Purdue!!!  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 11:18 pm : link
With 2 minutes left.

Wow
Man OSU  
montanagiant : 10/20/2018 11:23 pm : link
Looks like shit
RE: To me this draft class looks pretty weak  
Giants34 : 10/20/2018 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14137124 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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may be best for Giants to go BPA in round 1, and then take a QB with 2nd round pick. Sucks Tua is still a year away from eligibility.


Herbert did not light the world on fire today, but that dude can play. We would be lucky to be in a position to draft that guy.
Michigan wins and Ohio State loses  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 11:44 pm : link
What an awesome day!
Doesn’t really change much  
Kyle in NY : 10/21/2018 12:27 am : link
barring another loss before, the winner of OSU/Michigan is likely in the playoff

But good lord that was a putrid performance by the Buckeyes. And it’s been coming, hopefully a wake up call
RE: Doesn’t really change much  
chopperhatch : 10/21/2018 1:59 am : link
In comment 14137143 Kyle in NY said:
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barring another loss before, the winner of OSU/Michigan is likely in the playoff

But good lord that was a putrid performance by the Buckeyes. And it’s been coming, hopefully a wake up call


Haskins threw the ball 73 times....THATS FUCKING INSANE! He threw a few good balls that wound up going incomplete in the end zone, but a top quarterback with the kind of talent he has playing with him should be able to get his team more than 20 points against a .500 team.
Ohio state  
B in ALB : 10/21/2018 2:02 am : link
Hahahahaha. Fuck off pretenders.

Lemme guess. Urb had a headache during the game and couldn't remember the calls. Then his chest hurt. Went to BW3 for some plain wings and water last night. Game over.
RE: Doesn’t really change much  
Bramton1 : 10/21/2018 2:30 am : link
In comment 14137143 Kyle in NY said:
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barring another loss before, the winner of OSU/Michigan is likely in the playoff

But good lord that was a putrid performance by the Buckeyes. And it’s been coming, hopefully a wake up call


Ohio State got knocked out of the playoff last year because they got demolished by Iowa. This one was worse. Alabama, Clemson, and Note Dame are in if they win out, and a 1-loss Big 12 team gets in over an Ohio State team that just let Purdue put 49 on them.
RE: RE: Doesn’t really change much  
chopperhatch : 10/21/2018 2:43 am : link
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barring another loss before, the winner of OSU/Michigan is likely in the playoff

But good lord that was a putrid performance by the Buckeyes. And it’s been coming, hopefully a wake up call



Ohio State got knocked out of the playoff last year because they got demolished by Iowa. This one was worse. Alabama, Clemson, and Note Dame are in if they win out, and a 1-loss Big 12 team gets in over an Ohio State team that just let Purdue put 49 on them.


That LSU/Bama game is so MASSIVE now. Yes, OSU/Mich at the end of the year was always huge, but OSU losing opens the door for LSU or Michigan. LSU wins against Bama at home, and they are obviously the favorite to take a seat in the top 4. But it also could make that Michigan/OSU game a play in game if Bama wins and the other 3 win out. Awesome drama if it holds.

As a Michigan fan but one who also roots for ND, You cant beat that drama if they both make it.
Herbert  
ajr2456 : 10/21/2018 6:49 am : link
Justin Herbert's situational accuracy numbers against Washington St-
3 drops (2 first downs)
10/15 on 3rd downs; 6/11 beyond the marker
16/19 on throws from 0-10 yards
1/9 beyond 20 yards
4/10 outside of the pocket
RE: RE: Doesn’t really change much  
dep026 : 10/21/2018 7:29 am : link
In comment 14137171 Bramton1 said:
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In comment 14137143 Kyle in NY said:


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barring another loss before, the winner of OSU/Michigan is likely in the playoff

But good lord that was a putrid performance by the Buckeyes. And it’s been coming, hopefully a wake up call



Ohio State got knocked out of the playoff last year because they got demolished by Iowa. This one was worse. Alabama, Clemson, and Note Dame are in if they win out, and a 1-loss Big 12 team gets in over an Ohio State team that just let Purdue put 49 on them.


Purdue is much better than people are giving them credit for. And there’s no fucking way a big 12 team gets in over OSU if they run the table.
RE: Geez  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/21/2018 7:49 am : link
In comment 14136829 Kyle in NY said:
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you Michigan fans sure are quick to turn on your team. Nice win in a tough environment.

November 24 looking like a de facto play in game


You mean Dep. The King of knee jerk reactions.
RE: RE: Geez  
dep026 : 10/21/2018 8:02 am : link
In comment 14137209 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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you Michigan fans sure are quick to turn on your team. Nice win in a tough environment.

November 24 looking like a de facto play in game



You mean Dep. The King of knee jerk reactions.


Excuse me. I demanded a first down throw, called up Jimbo and said it’s time. Next first down was a 78 yard TD pass to take control of the game.

Even Harbaugh needs a little dep in his game plan.
RE: Herbert  
markky : 10/21/2018 8:35 am : link
In comment 14137194 ajr2456 said:
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Justin Herbert's situational accuracy numbers against Washington St-
3 drops (2 first downs)
10/15 on 3rd downs; 6/11 beyond the marker
16/19 on throws from 0-10 yards
1/9 beyond 20 yards
4/10 outside of the pocket


I didn't see any accurate long throws by Herbert. He did impress me with his ability to throw on the run, especially to the right.
Ohio State still has to go to E Lansing  
RobCarpenter : 10/21/2018 8:38 am : link
And Purdue just gave them a blueprint on how to beat Ohio State.
RE: RE: Herbert  
shyster : 10/21/2018 9:00 am : link
In comment 14137239 markky said:
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Justin Herbert's situational accuracy numbers against Washington St-
3 drops (2 first downs)
10/15 on 3rd downs; 6/11 beyond the marker
16/19 on throws from 0-10 yards
1/9 beyond 20 yards
4/10 outside of the pocket



I didn't see any accurate long throws by Herbert. He did impress me with his ability to throw on the run, especially to the right.


The one completion in the 1/9 stat beyond 20 yards was the deep crossing pattern for 28 yards late in the game. And that was a nice dart.

But otherwise, yes, the long passes did seem to be a hope and a prayer. There were a couple of flags on long passes where the receiver was held up.
Ohio State’s LBs were terrible  
RobCarpenter : 10/21/2018 9:09 am : link
Repeatedly gashed in the run game.

Bama will be in the playoff  
BigBlueCane : 10/21/2018 10:28 am : link
unless they drop 2 games.

RE: Bama will be in the playoff  
RobCarpenter : 10/21/2018 11:27 am : link
In comment 14137356 BigBlueCane said:
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unless they drop 2 games.


Not if they lose to LSU.
RE: RE: Doesn’t really change much  
Kyle in NY : 10/22/2018 9:16 am : link
In comment 14137171 Bramton1 said:
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In comment 14137143 Kyle in NY said:


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barring another loss before, the winner of OSU/Michigan is likely in the playoff

But good lord that was a putrid performance by the Buckeyes. And it’s been coming, hopefully a wake up call



Ohio State got knocked out of the playoff last year because they got demolished by Iowa. This one was worse. Alabama, Clemson, and Note Dame are in if they win out, and a 1-loss Big 12 team gets in over an Ohio State team that just let Purdue put 49 on them.


But last year the Iowa loss was their second loss of the season. So it became a two loss conference champ OSU against a one loss non conference champ Alabama.

If OSU wins out and has one loss I think they get in. But they were rightfully dropped substantially in the polls. So they may have to build some style points up between now and then. Something is just missing with this year's team
Purdue  
dep026 : 10/22/2018 9:27 am : link
is also much better than people think.... They lost their first 3 games by 8 points, and outplayed NW and a few fluke plays beat them. E. Michigan was a bad loss and lost to Missouri at Missouri by 3.

They have been handling teams since. One of them being Boston College who was a hot team. And of course OSU.
Agreed  
Kyle in NY : 10/22/2018 9:32 am : link
Nobody should be surprised they pulled the upset. Now dominating the way they did was a bit of surprise, but they have a good team. They could be an 8 or 9 win team by the time the season is done.

Only way a one loss big ten champ could be in some trouble is if Alabama loses a close game to either LSU or in the SEC championship game. Plus Clemson and Notre Dame go undefeated. Then they may get jumped again by non conference champion Alabama.

But there will be other losses we don't expect before the season is up. Always happens
RE: Agreed  
dep026 : 10/22/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 14138539 Kyle in NY said:
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Nobody should be surprised they pulled the upset. Now dominating the way they did was a bit of surprise, but they have a good team. They could be an 8 or 9 win team by the time the season is done.

Only way a one loss big ten champ could be in some trouble is if Alabama loses a close game to either LSU or in the SEC championship game. Plus Clemson and Notre Dame go undefeated. Then they may get jumped again by non conference champion Alabama.

But there will be other losses we don't expect before the season is up. Always happens


If Michigan or OSU win out - one of them will be in. Especially Michigan with their only loss to a top 3 team.
Even in the scenario I prposed?  
Kyle in NY : 10/22/2018 9:45 am : link
You think they'd really leave out Alabama?
RE: Even in the scenario I prposed?  
dep026 : 10/22/2018 9:49 am : link
In comment 14138563 Kyle in NY said:
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You think they'd really leave out Alabama?


We were told yes by BBi before.... so I am going to say yes now.
RE: Ohio state  
Greg from LI : 10/22/2018 10:04 am : link
In comment 14137167 B in ALB said:
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Urb had a headache during the game and couldn't remember the calls. Then his chest hurt. Went to BW3 for some plain wings and water last night. Game over.


It's the big one!

RE: Even in the scenario I prposed?  
mdc1 : 10/22/2018 11:52 am : link
In comment 14138563 Kyle in NY said:
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You think they'd really leave out Alabama?


With the margin of performance over other teams, really hard to believe they would leave Alabama out of the playoffs. Think about it, Purdue lost to Mizz, Alabama stomped them out. If Alabama beats LSU by 2-3 scores, I think even a rivalry loss to Auburn might not have that much sway, provided they make it to SEC championship and deliver the goods. Alabama's biggest threat is themselves.
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