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chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 1:41 pm
Herbert thread is what it is.


Daniel Jones on now. Down 14-0 to UVA. He is plagied by drops, but just threw a deep ball into double coverage which led to a pick. Had a very nice run for the 1st on 3rd and 11.

Finley with 16 NC State v. 3 Clemson at 3:30 might be the game of the day.

Lock w/ Mizzou v. Memphis at 4

Of course Herbert plays tonight.
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The Greg Effect  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 1:46 pm : link
Daniel Jones has 23 interceptions in his career. Eight of those (over 34%) have come against Virginia.
RE: The Greg Effect  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14136654 Anakim said:
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Daniel Jones has 23 interceptions in his career. Eight of those (over 34%) have come against Virginia.


Yea not a great decision. If he had a playmaker like Herbert has in Mitchell I would have been okay with it.

You can tell Duke just doesnt have quality at the skill positions to allow Jones to make plays
Tyrell Jackson  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 1:56 pm : link
This guy was a sleeper 1st round choice.

Yikes!
Checking this game out at 3:30est  
Foobarbaz : 10/20/2018 2:06 pm : link
Herbert looks inaccurate, I'm liking Finley and Will Grier more but let's see after tonight
RE: Checking this game out at 3:30est  
BigBlueShock : 10/20/2018 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14136683 Foobarbaz said:
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Herbert looks inaccurate, I'm liking Finley and Will Grier more but let's see after tonight

I don’t think inaccurate means what you think it does
RE: RE: Checking this game out at 3:30est  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14136685 BigBlueShock said:
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Herbert looks inaccurate, I'm liking Finley and Will Grier more but let's see after tonight


I don’t think inaccurate means what you think it does


Maybe he meant his post was inaccurate?
Yea Herbert is plenty accurate.  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 2:11 pm : link
Will Grier on the other hand? He's inaccurately portrayed as a 1dt round prospect.
RE: Yea Herbert is plenty accurate.  
Foobarbaz : 10/20/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 14136690 chopperhatch said:
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Will Grier on the other hand? He's inaccurately portrayed as a 1dt round prospect.


Herbert 62% completions vs Will Grier 71% completions.

Grier looks better to me on the eye test
RE: RE: Yea Herbert is plenty accurate.  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14136694 Foobarbaz said:
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In comment 14136690 chopperhatch said:


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Will Grier on the other hand? He's inaccurately portrayed as a 1dt round prospect.



Herbert 62% completions vs Will Grier 71% completions.

Grier looks better to me on the eye test


Maybe inaccurate was the wrong stat to be critical of for Grier. But he certainly hangs on to the far too long to the tune of 12 sacks the last two weeks from habging to the ball too long.


Jones with a rifle pass down the sideline for a TD out of halftine. 14-7 VA. Quick decision, got it to the receiver in stride and made the throw look easy.
Michigan's defense  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 2:29 pm : link
Is TOUGH. Very fast and they hit.
Rutgers is winning...  
jnoble : 10/20/2018 2:32 pm : link
Oh my God, can you believe it? They might win a game today!
RE: RE: Yea Herbert is plenty accurate.  
Mike in NY : 10/20/2018 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14136694 Foobarbaz said:
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Will Grier on the other hand? He's inaccurately portrayed as a 1dt round prospect.



Herbert 62% completions vs Will Grier 71% completions.

Grier looks better to me on the eye test


Grier plays in a more QB friendly system and is throwing to better players. Oregon maybe has one WR and a bunch of RB's. Seen Herbert being victimized by more drops than a QB at a program like Oregon should have to deal with. I liked Grier more earlier on, but watching him lately he really does not have an internal clock of where the pass rush is (that can be good because he won't throw it away thinking he is under pressure when he isn't, but too often it just means he is taking sacks)
Another stinking drop  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 2:43 pm : link
For Jones on 3rd. He has to have the worst receivers of the group being discussed.
Quinn Nordin  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 2:45 pm : link
Sucks as much as Michigan’s offense.
RE: Another stinking drop  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14136718 chopperhatch said:
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For Jones on 3rd. He has to have the worst receivers of the group being discussed.

Honestly. The guy has dropped some beautiful passes in his WRs hands and they just drop them time after time.
If Jones plus this comeback off  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 3:05 pm : link
He gets extra points from me. His team really has let him down today.
RE: If Jones plus this comeback off  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14136739 GoDeep13 said:
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He gets extra points from me. His team really has let him down today.


Indeed he is very VERY cool throughout all of this. Doesnt get frustrated. Very Eli like and he makes great decisions when he runs for it.
RE: If Jones plus this comeback off  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14136739 GoDeep13 said:
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He gets extra points from me. His team really has let him down today.


This would be two comebacks in a row right?
Haskins at 730p too  
Strahan91 : 10/20/2018 3:23 pm : link
There is apparently some buzz that he may declare after this season. He’s the one qb I’m most intrigued with after Herbert. Definitely need to see more though and against better competition once the schedule picks up.
Smart to eat that one.  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 3:25 pm : link
His line is letting him down now.
THAT sack was on Jones. Held the  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 3:26 pm : link
Ball waaaaaay too long.
Harbaugh  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 3:30 pm : link
Seat must feel like 1000000 degrees right now. Outcoachced once again by D’antoni.
RE: Rutgers is winning...  
jnoble : 10/20/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14136712 jnoble said:
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Oh my God, can you believe it? They might win a game today!


NEEEEEEEEVER MIND
Shea pattrson  
KWhite2250 : 10/20/2018 3:37 pm : link
Fucking sucks. Talk about overhyped
RE: Shea pattrson  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14136757 KWhite2250 said:
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Fucking sucks. Talk about overhyped


Maybe if they let him throw it on another down other the 3rd we could actually know what he can do.
Fucking cursed  
KWhite2250 : 10/20/2018 3:40 pm : link
Against michigan st. Same shit every year
RE: Fucking cursed  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14136761 KWhite2250 said:
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Against michigan st. Same shit every year


Same shit coach. It’s amazing how pathetic of an offense he runs year in and year out.
Run on first run on 2nd  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 3:51 pm : link
Pressure on 3rd

THROW THE BALL ON FIRST FUCKING DOWN JUST ONE TIME!!!

He can’t get fired soon enough.
I know he's not draft-eligible next year, but Tua is amazing.  
PetesHereNow : 10/20/2018 3:53 pm : link
Just such good command of the game.
RE: Run on first run on 2nd  
KWhite2250 : 10/20/2018 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14136766 dep026 said:
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Pressure on 3rd

THROW THE BALL ON FIRST FUCKING DOWN JUST ONE TIME!!!

He can’t get fired soon enough.


There you go!
RE: RE: Run on first run on 2nd  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14136772 KWhite2250 said:
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Pressure on 3rd

THROW THE BALL ON FIRST FUCKING DOWN JUST ONE TIME!!!

He can’t get fired soon enough.



There you go!


Amazing isn’t it?
RE: Yea Herbert is plenty accurate.  
tyrik13 : 10/20/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14136690 chopperhatch said:
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Will Grier on the other hand? He's inaccurately portrayed as a 1dt round prospect.


Facts
Shea patterson  
KWhite2250 : 10/20/2018 4:21 pm : link
Telling me to shut up. Great fakes on those runs
Michigan has been running  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 4:36 pm : link
The ball down MSU's throats this 2nd half.

Why risk chucking it when u can grind it out with that defense.

Geez, man  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 4:38 pm : link
Lawrence can really sling it
D'Antonio is only good  
section125 : 10/20/2018 4:46 pm : link
for trick plays.....
RE: D'Antonio is only good  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14136813 section125 said:
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for trick plays.....


Yea I didnt get the "outcoaching Harbaugh" thing. He has completely controlled this game in the second.
RE: Michigan has been running  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 14136804 chopperhatch said:
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The ball down MSU's throats this 2nd half.

Why risk chucking it when u can grind it out with that defense.


They got control of the game by throwing it.
Finley has a very weak arm  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 4:50 pm : link
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RE: Finley has a very weak arm  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14136819 Anakim said:
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I was just going to post about that lollipop out he threw and almost had picked. I wouldnt say "very week", but he doesnt gun throws like he should.
RE: RE: Finley has a very weak arm  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14136821 chopperhatch said:
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I was just going to post about that lollipop out he threw and almost had picked. I wouldnt say "very week", but he doesnt gun throws like he should.



Very weak. Fuck me.
Geez  
Kyle in NY : 10/20/2018 4:57 pm : link
you Michigan fans sure are quick to turn on your team. Nice win in a tough environment.

November 24 looking like a de facto play in game
Thos QB from Indiana Penix  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 5:05 pm : link
Has very nice pocket awareness and a nice zippy ball.
its Bama and Ohio State this year  
BigBlueCane : 10/20/2018 5:10 pm : link
and maybe Clemson.
Finley is absolutely dreadful  
BigBlueShock : 10/20/2018 5:13 pm : link
Maybe he’s just having a rough game, but from what he’s showing today, he makes Kyle Lauletta look like he’s got a howitzer in comparison
Not a great half of football for Finley  
AcesUp : 10/20/2018 5:20 pm : link
This game is a huge test for him and he's failing miserably.
RE: its Bama and Ohio State this year  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2018 5:25 pm : link
In comment 14136842 BigBlueCane said:
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and maybe Clemson.


Don't forget the Irish!
RE: Not a great half of football for Finley  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14136849 AcesUp said:
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This game is a huge test for him and he's failing miserably.


Literally none of the QBs have done shit so far today. Although Jones' receivers dropped a ton of balls.
RE: RE: its Bama and Ohio State this year  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14136853 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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and maybe Clemson.



Don't forget the Irish!


Agreed. Also, if we get a loss from Clemson or OSU, Michigan would be a tough matchup for Bama in my opinion. They run the ball very well and have a carnivorous defense. Plus Patterson hasmade some plays.

Could be fun.
RE: RE: RE: its Bama and Ohio State this year  
mdc1 : 10/20/2018 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14136855 chopperhatch said:
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and maybe Clemson.



Don't forget the Irish!



Agreed. Also, if we get a loss from Clemson or OSU, Michigan would be a tough matchup for Bama in my opinion. They run the ball very well and have a carnivorous defense. Plus Patterson hasmade some plays.

Could be fun.


lol, you cannot be serious.
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