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chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 1:41 pm
Herbert thread is what it is.


Daniel Jones on now. Down 14-0 to UVA. He is plagied by drops, but just threw a deep ball into double coverage which led to a pick. Had a very nice run for the 1st on 3rd and 11.

Finley with 16 NC State v. 3 Clemson at 3:30 might be the game of the day.

Lock w/ Mizzou v. Memphis at 4

Of course Herbert plays tonight.
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Jones wasn't getting any help  
AcesUp : 10/20/2018 5:30 pm : link
His throws were on target and he was moving well. I actually liked what I saw in the glimpses I caught.
RE: RE: Not a great half of football for Finley  
crick n NC : 10/20/2018 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14136854 chopperhatch said:
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This game is a huge test for him and he's failing miserably.



Literally none of the QBs have done shit so far today. Although Jones' receivers dropped a ton of balls.


Consider his surroundings. Football is a team sport, right?
Just got back from  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2018 5:34 pm : link
gym. I see Clemson's up 24-0.

How has Finley looked?
Tua is  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 5:36 pm : link
An absolutely extraordinary player. A mix of Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. Perfect pocket presence, accurate, mobile, has a gun....if only he were coming out this year.
RE: Just got back from  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14136861 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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gym. I see Clemson's up 24-0.

How has Finley looked?


He’s making Eli look like Rodgers.
The Irish are not even remotely close to OSU or Bama  
BigBlueCane : 10/20/2018 5:39 pm : link
This Bama team would pummel them worse then the last time they met. OSU would be closer but not much.

Clemson... maybe if they can get to TyLaw, otherwise.. nope.
Haha  
BigBlueShock : 10/20/2018 5:43 pm : link
Finley is trash. Another floating lollipop for an interception
RE: RE: RE: RE: its Bama and Ohio State this year  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 5:43 pm : link
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and maybe Clemson.



Don't forget the Irish!



Agreed. Also, if we get a loss from Clemson or OSU, Michigan would be a tough matchup for Bama in my opinion. They run the ball very well and have a carnivorous defense. Plus Patterson hasmade some plays.

Could be fun.



lol, you cannot be serious.


Very serious. Did you watch the game?
RE: Haha  
markky : 10/20/2018 5:47 pm : link
In comment 14136868 BigBlueShock said:
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Finley is trash. Another floating lollipop for an interception


Finley is not the best QB on the field by a long shot. Clemon's backup Chase Brice is better.
and before anyone brings up Miami  
BigBlueCane : 10/20/2018 5:59 pm : link
Mark Richt is a very narcissistic head coach that is stuck with his 90's era offense and in doing so he's managed to piss off and alienate the fanbase. The banner planes are being funded now and will likely fly again this year, demanding changes be made.
REALLY impressed by Colorado's QB Steven Montez  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 6:00 pm : link
He may end up being my QB2 behind Herbert
Geez, Montez's O-Line blows  
Anakim : 10/20/2018 6:06 pm : link
He gets flushed out of the pocket every freakin' play
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2018 6:10 pm : link
Who the hell is this QB for Colorado? He looks good.
Daniel Jones is a much  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 6:10 pm : link
Better prospect than Findley, Grier or or Lock at this point.
RE: RE: Haha  
markky : 10/20/2018 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14136874 markky said:
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Finley is trash. Another floating lollipop for an interception



Finley is not the best QB on the field by a long shot. Clemon's backup Chase Brice is better.


Brice is now in the game and has made some nice throws.
Finley  
HoustonGiant : 10/20/2018 7:19 pm : link
was not impressive. Lots of bad throws and into coverage.
These Brad Paisley/Peyton Manning  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 7:31 pm : link
Nationeide commercials are so brutal.
RE: Run on first run on 2nd  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14136766 dep026 said:
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Pressure on 3rd

THROW THE BALL ON FIRST FUCKING DOWN JUST ONE TIME!!!

He can’t get fired soon enough.


You really want to fire him? Why? The defense gave up less than 100 yards. The run game got going in the fourth quarter, and Patterson had some nice runs. They dominated time of possession. Is it Harbaugh’s fault that Evans fumbled? They crushed Wisconsin. What exactly do you want Harbaugh to do?

The coach who deserves to be fired is Franklin. Up 33-21 today with 4 minutes left and Franklin has McSorley throw the ball three straight times. Now that’s a terrible coach.
RE: Daniel Jones is a much  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14136894 chopperhatch said:
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Better prospect than Findley, Grier or or Lock at this point.
Yep. Waiting to see how Herbert does. If he struggles I might end up having to redo my QB board. Still looking through other guys as well (keeping an eye on UCF v ECU) May even see what the Minshew hype is about.
Come on Purdue  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 7:49 pm : link
Get it done vs Ohio State.
Ive never seen that  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 7:49 pm : link
Happen before. Wow. Horribly unprepared.
RE: Ive never seen that  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14136946 chopperhatch said:
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Happen before. Wow. Horribly unprepared.


Not how you rehearse it for sure.
Jesus!  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 7:56 pm : link
What a run!!
RE: Jesus!  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 7:59 pm : link
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What a run!!


The tackling was atrocious on that play.
Purdue drives 98 yards  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 8:19 pm : link
Up 7-0.
Well  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 8:28 pm : link
Maybe if Oregon gets down by enough the coach turns loose Herbert so that we can so when he needs to throw the ball for once.
I guess no one is watching  
Giants34 : 10/20/2018 8:32 pm : link
But Herbert is not playing well right now. And Oregon simply looks overmatched right now.
Oregon’s  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/20/2018 8:38 pm : link
Offense is trash. Run, Run, pass every possession. It’d be nice to see them throw it on 1st and 2nd down and let the qb get in a rhythm
RE: Oregon’s  
Giants34 : 10/20/2018 8:45 pm : link
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Offense is trash. Run, Run, pass every possession. It’d be nice to see them throw it on 1st and 2nd down and let the qb get in a rhythm


Agreed completely. It doesn't really matter, though, because the D can't stop anything right now. Herbert has missed throws today, too, but they only have 9 plays all half.
RE: I guess no one is watching  
chopperhatch : 10/20/2018 8:45 pm : link
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But Herbert is not playing well right now. And Oregon simply looks overmatched right now.


Im definitely watching and I dont think he looks all that bad. The big sack was a result of his lone completely whiffing on an assignment. His two deep throws were right there but his receivers dont have that extra gear. But I think the playcalling is holding him back
RE: RE: Oregon’s  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/20/2018 8:46 pm : link
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Offense is trash. Run, Run, pass every possession. It’d be nice to see them throw it on 1st and 2nd down and let the qb get in a rhythm



Agreed completely. It doesn't really matter, though, because the D can't stop anything right now. Herbert has missed throws today, too, but they only have 9 plays all half.


For sure. Their D is BAD!
ok, Oregon will have the ball now  
markky : 10/20/2018 8:49 pm : link
down 20 and have to start passing. this will be interesting.
Ohio State is in trouble  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 9:15 pm : link
Purdue gets a TD just before the half and it’s 14-3.
Oregon first and goal from around the 6  
markky : 10/20/2018 9:55 pm : link
runs 3 times for -4 yards. No pass attempts inside the 10. Geez.
I guess no one else is watching Purdue/Ohio State?  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 9:55 pm : link
21-6 Purdue now.
Why did Oregon  
mattyblue : 10/20/2018 9:56 pm : link
just run 3 times from the 5?
Not wTching  
dep026 : 10/20/2018 9:57 pm : link
But is Herbert playing? Stats saying someone else is in?
RE: Why did Oregon  
Giants34 : 10/20/2018 9:58 pm : link
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just run 3 times from the 5?


Because they have the worst coaching staff in the nation. Down 20 they ran three times to put themselves down 17.
Purdue's OL  
HoustonGiant : 10/20/2018 10:25 pm : link
Looks good, especially their LT.
RE: Tua is  
mittenedman : 10/20/2018 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14136862 chopperhatch said:
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An absolutely extraordinary player. A mix of Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. Perfect pocket presence, accurate, mobile, has a gun....if only he were coming out this year.


Agreed. I can't believe how good he is.
Purdue with a fantastic draw play  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 10:42 pm : link
Gashes Ohio State for a TD. 28-6 now w/11:39 left.

I’m so happy right now.
Herbert has looked better  
tyrik13 : 10/20/2018 10:43 pm : link
This second half but he definitely needs to learn to read the defense better. He's staring down his recievers too much, but overall looks better. Daniel Jones will be moving up draft boards rapidly soon. As I said before, if he had a better recieving core, he'd look much better. He's my dark horse QB pick! Findley laid a huge egg today and his stock took a hit.
RE: RE: Tua is  
tyrik13 : 10/20/2018 10:45 pm : link
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An absolutely extraordinary player. A mix of Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. Perfect pocket presence, accurate, mobile, has a gun....if only he were coming out this year.



Agreed. I can't believe how good he is.


Agree as well. His command of the offense for such a young player is extraordinary! He literally has everything you want in a QB
RE: RE: RE: Tua is  
Giants34 : 10/20/2018 10:52 pm : link
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An absolutely extraordinary player. A mix of Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. Perfect pocket presence, accurate, mobile, has a gun....if only he were coming out this year.



Agreed. I can't believe how good he is.



Agree as well. His command of the offense for such a young player is extraordinary! He literally has everything you want in a QB


Except draft eligibility. Herbert has looked very good in the second half. He plays in a juvenile offense, but you can see he is still making reads.
RE: Herbert has looked better  
GoDeep13 : 10/20/2018 10:54 pm : link
In comment 14137097 tyrik13 said:
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This second half but he definitely needs to learn to read the defense better. He's staring down his recievers too much, but overall looks better. Daniel Jones will be moving up draft boards rapidly soon. As I said before, if he had a better recieving core, he'd look much better. He's my dark horse QB pick! Findley laid a huge egg today and his stock took a hit.


Agreed. Every QBs warts were shown today. Out of it all I think Jones performed the best of the potential draft eligible guys. Like you said. Had Jones’s receivers caught their passes today he’d look a lot better stat wise.
To me this draft class looks pretty weak  
nyjuggernaut2 : 10/20/2018 11:11 pm : link
may be best for Giants to go BPA in round 1, and then take a QB with 2nd round pick. Sucks Tua is still a year away from eligibility.
49-20 Purdue!!!  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 11:18 pm : link
With 2 minutes left.

Wow
Man OSU  
montanagiant : 10/20/2018 11:23 pm : link
Looks like shit
RE: To me this draft class looks pretty weak  
Giants34 : 10/20/2018 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14137124 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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may be best for Giants to go BPA in round 1, and then take a QB with 2nd round pick. Sucks Tua is still a year away from eligibility.


Herbert did not light the world on fire today, but that dude can play. We would be lucky to be in a position to draft that guy.
Michigan wins and Ohio State loses  
RobCarpenter : 10/20/2018 11:44 pm : link
What an awesome day!
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