admittedly, the slow motion could be skewing my view of it, but I just rewatched and I stand by my opinion on it - at least the first 2 plays.
there is at least 5 free yards in front of Eli (maybe more, but I can't tell from the camera angle) to either run or step up an make play. at least something better than a sack.
the 3rd did break down too quickly for anything good to happen.
RE: Hal Hunter, and by extension, Shula, and by extension, Shurmur Â
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
clean house again. color me very much unimpressed with Schurmur and Gettleman for a multitude of reasons. they inspire no confidence in turning this thing around at all.
+1. I hate to keep changing regimes ala the browns, but I think they screwed up with their “safe” GM pick and coach. I see no improvement in ANY area save Barkley and little to get excited about. But they probably won’t and we’ll be playing this same shit again next year....sad!
RE: RE: Hal Hunter, and by extension, Shula, and by extension, Shurmur Â
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
Shurmur?
Mcadoo continued to play 11 personnel despite his top 2 WRs going down. Shurmur attacked Philly by running spacing hook routes to his primary target 4th string TE.
Means and averages, 90% of coaches are bad to average.
If Shumur was good OC with Minnesota t when why are Giants bad. Â
Minnesota had a better OL and more mobile QB. The Giants have neither. The OL and Eli are an awful combination. No consistency. Giants lack of talent on OL is killing the offense.
The giants seem to suffer a breakdown play every single series! Multiple times a series! Most of the bad players are pretty good most of the time but just completely shit the bed more than the other players do. These breakdown plays have been killing us for years now. Beyond tired of it at this point.
Curious - did you even watch the clip, and do you know what clickbait is?
It's certainly not clickbait, and the clip he provided backs up his assertion. Granted, it's only one clip and one player in question - but he's done this for the Giants a bunch of times now, and they're all similar.
Tossed a prayer at a TE who shouldn't even have been on the roster that that's exactly what the playcalling meant to do.
The TE hook to the middle attacks the soft spot in a soft cover 2/Tampa 2 defense, which we have seen a lot lately. If that was Engrams he gets the catch, the MLB probably lulzed at the 4th string TE and did not respect the seam and attacked the hook.
I don’t like Halapio and the guys behind him aren’t good. We need to use a good resource to find a decent center.
The NYG know OC is a need. And badly. Rumor at the draft was they were going to go either Hernandez or Price with their 2nd pick. Price never made it to the 2nd round.
The line calls have been ridiculously bad. Baldinger points out several here against Philly, but, I have same the same crap in every one of the Giants games. Many cases where we have 4 against 2 on one side, and 2 against 2 on the other. And the 2 against 2 side would be the side that needed more help. The centers, first Halapio and now Greco seem to be going the wrong way consistently. Since its more than one player, I am wondering it its something with the scheme and or coaching.
admittedly, the slow motion could be skewing my view of it, but I just rewatched and I stand by my opinion on it - at least the first 2 plays.
there is at least 5 free yards in front of Eli (maybe more, but I can't tell from the camera angle) to either run or step up an make play. at least something better than a sack.
the 3rd did break down too quickly for anything good to happen.
When you're forced to rush the plays mroe thna likely instead of getting asked you'll commit a turnover. You assume just because a scrambling Qb can step up in the pocket under duress that that means it will turn out well. When your rushed in the manner ELi, you're more likely to make mistakes. And at some point instead of the little dink-dump offs Eli does your Qb will just start running more. It's all no good.
The OL is breaking down. Just because you have more of a scrambling QB doesn't make it all right. You win a few more games but still the team sucks.
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
Shurmur?
Is there anybody that's NOT anti-McAdoo? I kind of thought that was like the one thing we all agreed on?
Hunter's responsibility? Does he establish each individual game's blocking schemes/assignments? Or does he teach technique to the linemen? both? regarding the blocking schemes/assignments if not Hunter then who?
Hunter's responsibility? Does he establish each individual game's blocking schemes/assignments? Or does he teach technique to the linemen? both? regarding the blocking schemes/assignments if not Hunter then who?
Teams dont typically change blocking schemes from game to game. Assignments are a separate issue. The role of an position coach varies by team as it's set by the HC, but generally their job is to teach the scheme and maintain the fundamentals. Film review, technique drilling, developing young players.
Why is it that other teams can plug and play undrafted OL on a weekly basis and still put up 30 pts, but we are now 3 years in and 19 different guys and they are all incompetent and mess up simple assignments? Multiple coaches and yet the same thing over and over. Why is that?
B in ALB, I think, brought up last week that Eli isn't calling out protections anymore, nor is he doing many audibles at the line, if any.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
In game recognition by the coaches and players. Greco is really shitting the bed there. He looks like he's still playing guard at center. Maybe that was the change to Pulley, those types of things.
The fact that Barkley is averaging 5.2 per carry behind this line Â
B in ALB, I think, brought up last week that Eli isn't calling out protections anymore, nor is he doing many audibles at the line, if any.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
Nope those aren't happening, this system, similar to McAdoo's is not rife with audible and changes, it's more about quicker tempo and getting plays out than it is a chess match. For instance, on those plays IT IS NOT a coaching issue, that is a center who is playing his what 3rd game in his career at center not making the line calls on his own. He has that ability to make those line changes last second and he's not doing it. This is a player problem on those plays that Baldy points out.
B in ALB, I think, brought up last week that Eli isn't calling out protections anymore, nor is he doing many audibles at the line, if any.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
Oh the irony. Years of posters here begging for a more QB friendly system so Eli can put up gaudy stats, and now longing for the days of Gilbride after 2 WCO systems. The bottom line, Eli has always been best suited for Coughlin/Gilbride. Eli needs to be able to use his brains which he doesn’t as much anymore.
Everyone overreacted to 2013 which set the wheels in motion for this mess.
Gettleman walked in the door talking up smash mouth football and a return to the way the Giants historically have played. Then a month later the franchise hires Shurmur who runs an entirely different style to that and has been influenced by some of the same coaches who influenced McAdoo.
Eli/Coughlin should have been linked until the end.. Â
Brees/Payton had 3 straight 7-9 seasons & they waited it out. I’m hindsight, we should have either committed to everyone or moved on from everyone. WCO & Eli aren’t a fit.
Why is it that other teams can plug and play undrafted OL on a weekly basis and still put up 30 pts, but we are now 3 years in and 19 different guys and they are all incompetent and mess up simple assignments? Multiple coaches and yet the same thing over and over. Why is that?
This is the big unanswered question of the last 5+ years. Teams always have weak spots, injuries, etc yet manage to have functional offenses with random plug ins on the OL. Sometimes really good offenses. That has not happened to the giants with high picks, mid picks, undrafted, vet FAs...everything. And we can never get it to work. You'd think you'd randomly stumble upon something good at some point.
B in ALB, I think, brought up last week that Eli isn't calling out protections anymore, nor is he doing many audibles at the line, if any.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
Oh the irony. Years of posters here begging for a more QB friendly system so Eli can put up gaudy stats, and now longing for the days of Gilbride after 2 WCO systems. The bottom line, Eli has always been best suited for Coughlin/Gilbride. Eli needs to be able to use his brains which he doesn’t as much anymore.
Everyone overreacted to 2013 which set the wheels in motion for this mess.
I could not possibly agree more. Mara...."The offense is broken" Let's fire the head coach's OC and undermine his authority in the locker room instead of holding the "rock star" young minority GM accountable for not getting the head coach and OC players that fit the system the 2 time SB winning MVP thrives in. Yeah, that's a good plan. I mean trying to fix what worked twice in 4 years is a fucking terrible idea. Eli will be fine changing to a completely different offensive philosophy at that stage of his career. Let's draft according to this nifty height/speed chart, instead of focusing on their college production. They will develop into the the JPP of X position players. Great idea.
Why is it that other teams can plug and play undrafted OL on a weekly basis and still put up 30 pts, but we are now 3 years in and 19 different guys and they are all incompetent and mess up simple assignments? Multiple coaches and yet the same thing over and over. Why is that?
This is the big unanswered question of the last 5+ years. Teams always have weak spots, injuries, etc yet manage to have functional offenses with random plug ins on the OL. Sometimes really good offenses. That has not happened to the giants with high picks, mid picks, undrafted, vet FAs...everything. And we can never get it to work. You'd think you'd randomly stumble upon something good at some point.
We actually did plug and play in 2015 (Flowers rookie season), and we scored over 30 points 7 times.
That said, it wasn't ideal, and we couldn't run for sh-t.... Â
B in ALB, I think, brought up last week that Eli isn't calling out protections anymore, nor is he doing many audibles at the line, if any.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
Oh the irony. Years of posters here begging for a more QB friendly system so Eli can put up gaudy stats, and now longing for the days of Gilbride after 2 WCO systems. The bottom line, Eli has always been best suited for Coughlin/Gilbride. Eli needs to be able to use his brains which he doesn’t as much anymore.
Everyone overreacted to 2013 which set the wheels in motion for this mess.
I could not possibly agree more. Mara...."The offense is broken" Let's fire the head coach's OC and undermine his authority in the locker room instead of holding the "rock star" young minority GM accountable for not getting the head coach and OC players that fit the system the 2 time SB winning MVP thrives in. Yeah, that's a good plan. I mean trying to fix what worked twice in 4 years is a fucking terrible idea. Eli will be fine changing to a completely different offensive philosophy at that stage of his career. Let's draft according to this nifty height/speed chart, instead of focusing on their college production. They will develop into the the JPP of X position players. Great idea.
The racism is fucking pathetic. Are you serious with this:
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...holding the "rock star" young minority GM accountable for not getting the head.
Do you really think Reese keeping his job had anything to do with his being black? Or Coughlin losing his because he was white?
Are some of you really this fucking stupid? The owner retained a kicker involved in a domestic abuse scandal because he thought he gave him a marginally better chance at winning, do you really think he'd have kept Reese around just because he was afraid of backlash if he was fired?
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B in ALB, I think, brought up last week that Eli isn't calling out protections anymore, nor is he doing many audibles at the line, if any.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
Oh the irony. Years of posters here begging for a more QB friendly system so Eli can put up gaudy stats, and now longing for the days of Gilbride after 2 WCO systems. The bottom line, Eli has always been best suited for Coughlin/Gilbride. Eli needs to be able to use his brains which he doesn’t as much anymore.
Everyone overreacted to 2013 which set the wheels in motion for this mess.
I could not possibly agree more. Mara...."The offense is broken" Let's fire the head coach's OC and undermine his authority in the locker room instead of holding the "rock star" young minority GM accountable for not getting the head coach and OC players that fit the system the 2 time SB winning MVP thrives in. Yeah, that's a good plan. I mean trying to fix what worked twice in 4 years is a fucking terrible idea. Eli will be fine changing to a completely different offensive philosophy at that stage of his career. Let's draft according to this nifty height/speed chart, instead of focusing on their college production. They will develop into the the JPP of X position players. Great idea.
The racism is fucking pathetic. Are you serious with this:
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...holding the "rock star" young minority GM accountable for not getting the head.
Do you really think Reese keeping his job had anything to do with his being black? Or Coughlin losing his because he was white?
Are some of you really this fucking stupid? The owner retained a kicker involved in a domestic abuse scandal because he thought he gave him a marginally better chance at winning, do you really think he'd have kept Reese around just because he was afraid of backlash if he was fired?
Jesus fucking Christ. I AM NOT SAYING HE WAS NOT FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS A MINORITY. It is just a reality of the situation. He was a minority GM in league made of 70%+ minority players in a league that had exactly 3 minority GM's in its entire history up to that point. The guy was GM for a SB win just 2 years ago. That would not have been an easy fire for an old white guy in today's climate. It is not unrealistic to suggest the Giants would have heard...Has a white GM ever been fired 2 years removed from a SB win? Not easy to talk about race, I get it.
You're implying the only reason he didn't lose his job is because 'it wouldn't be easy' to fire him.
He fired him two years later. Did the US achieve some sort of racial nirvana in that time that made it easier?
I am not implying shit. In 2013 JR was a rock star minority GM. It mattered. They subsequently blundered the Eli thing and there then had been countless reports of how bad his drafts were. Drafted players no longer on the team or playing. His record justified the firing. Most people expected him to be fired. In 2013 JR was not going to be fired. I wish he had drafted better and he was still here.
Instead Eli stood there and moved (slowly) at the last minute with no chance of success.
what a joke.
Instead Eli stood there and moved (slowly) at the last minute with no chance of success.
You literally have no idea what you are looking at then...
there is at least 5 free yards in front of Eli (maybe more, but I can't tell from the camera angle) to either run or step up an make play. at least something better than a sack.
the 3rd did break down too quickly for anything good to happen.
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
Shurmur?
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I believe he is a below average NFL QB now, but because of bad coaching and terrible line play, no QB would stand a chance.
There have been games where a more capable QB would have completed passes. Dont fall into the trap.
If you actually watch this film and think a "more capable QB" could be successful I don't know what to tell you...
The new Orleans game wasnt that long ago. Visual evidence exists.
the NFL should allow teams to tap out after say 8 games or so.
+1. I hate to keep changing regimes ala the browns, but I think they screwed up with their “safe” GM pick and coach. I see no improvement in ANY area save Barkley and little to get excited about. But they probably won’t and we’ll be playing this same shit again next year....sad!
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are looking like putrid hires
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
Shurmur?
Mcadoo continued to play 11 personnel despite his top 2 WRs going down. Shurmur attacked Philly by running spacing hook routes to his primary target 4th string TE.
Means and averages, 90% of coaches are bad to average.
Curious - did you even watch the clip, and do you know what clickbait is?
It's certainly not clickbait, and the clip he provided backs up his assertion. Granted, it's only one clip and one player in question - but he's done this for the Giants a bunch of times now, and they're all similar.
The TE hook to the middle attacks the soft spot in a soft cover 2/Tampa 2 defense, which we have seen a lot lately. If that was Engrams he gets the catch, the MLB probably lulzed at the 4th string TE and did not respect the seam and attacked the hook.
The NYG know OC is a need. And badly. Rumor at the draft was they were going to go either Hernandez or Price with their 2nd pick. Price never made it to the 2nd round.
I agree. Having a good young center next to Hernandez should open some holes for Barkley and help give Eli some time to throw.
The line calls have been ridiculously bad. Baldinger points out several here against Philly, but, I have same the same crap in every one of the Giants games. Many cases where we have 4 against 2 on one side, and 2 against 2 on the other. And the 2 against 2 side would be the side that needed more help. The centers, first Halapio and now Greco seem to be going the wrong way consistently. Since its more than one player, I am wondering it its something with the scheme and or coaching.
there is at least 5 free yards in front of Eli (maybe more, but I can't tell from the camera angle) to either run or step up an make play. at least something better than a sack.
the 3rd did break down too quickly for anything good to happen.
When you're forced to rush the plays mroe thna likely instead of getting asked you'll commit a turnover. You assume just because a scrambling Qb can step up in the pocket under duress that that means it will turn out well. When your rushed in the manner ELi, you're more likely to make mistakes. And at some point instead of the little dink-dump offs Eli does your Qb will just start running more. It's all no good.
The OL is breaking down. Just because you have more of a scrambling QB doesn't make it all right. You win a few more games but still the team sucks.
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are looking like putrid hires
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
Shurmur?
Is there anybody that's NOT anti-McAdoo? I kind of thought that was like the one thing we all agreed on?
Teams dont typically change blocking schemes from game to game. Assignments are a separate issue. The role of an position coach varies by team as it's set by the HC, but generally their job is to teach the scheme and maintain the fundamentals. Film review, technique drilling, developing young players.
and sooner or later the scrambler gets hurt
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
Oh the irony. Years of posters here begging for a more QB friendly system so Eli can put up gaudy stats, and now longing for the days of Gilbride after 2 WCO systems. The bottom line, Eli has always been best suited for Coughlin/Gilbride. Eli needs to be able to use his brains which he doesn’t as much anymore.
Everyone overreacted to 2013 which set the wheels in motion for this mess.
This is the big unanswered question of the last 5+ years. Teams always have weak spots, injuries, etc yet manage to have functional offenses with random plug ins on the OL. Sometimes really good offenses. That has not happened to the giants with high picks, mid picks, undrafted, vet FAs...everything. And we can never get it to work. You'd think you'd randomly stumble upon something good at some point.
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B in ALB, I think, brought up last week that Eli isn't calling out protections anymore, nor is he doing many audibles at the line, if any.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
Oh the irony. Years of posters here begging for a more QB friendly system so Eli can put up gaudy stats, and now longing for the days of Gilbride after 2 WCO systems. The bottom line, Eli has always been best suited for Coughlin/Gilbride. Eli needs to be able to use his brains which he doesn’t as much anymore.
Everyone overreacted to 2013 which set the wheels in motion for this mess.
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Why is it that other teams can plug and play undrafted OL on a weekly basis and still put up 30 pts, but we are now 3 years in and 19 different guys and they are all incompetent and mess up simple assignments? Multiple coaches and yet the same thing over and over. Why is that?
This is the big unanswered question of the last 5+ years. Teams always have weak spots, injuries, etc yet manage to have functional offenses with random plug ins on the OL. Sometimes really good offenses. That has not happened to the giants with high picks, mid picks, undrafted, vet FAs...everything. And we can never get it to work. You'd think you'd randomly stumble upon something good at some point.
We actually did plug and play in 2015 (Flowers rookie season), and we scored over 30 points 7 times.
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B in ALB, I think, brought up last week that Eli isn't calling out protections anymore, nor is he doing many audibles at the line, if any.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
Oh the irony. Years of posters here begging for a more QB friendly system so Eli can put up gaudy stats, and now longing for the days of Gilbride after 2 WCO systems. The bottom line, Eli has always been best suited for Coughlin/Gilbride. Eli needs to be able to use his brains which he doesn’t as much anymore.
Everyone overreacted to 2013 which set the wheels in motion for this mess.
I could not possibly agree more. Mara...."The offense is broken" Let's fire the head coach's OC and undermine his authority in the locker room instead of holding the "rock star" young minority GM accountable for not getting the head coach and OC players that fit the system the 2 time SB winning MVP thrives in. Yeah, that's a good plan. I mean trying to fix what worked twice in 4 years is a fucking terrible idea. Eli will be fine changing to a completely different offensive philosophy at that stage of his career. Let's draft according to this nifty height/speed chart, instead of focusing on their college production. They will develop into the the JPP of X position players. Great idea.
The racism is fucking pathetic. Are you serious with this:
Do you really think Reese keeping his job had anything to do with his being black? Or Coughlin losing his because he was white?
Are some of you really this fucking stupid? The owner retained a kicker involved in a domestic abuse scandal because he thought he gave him a marginally better chance at winning, do you really think he'd have kept Reese around just because he was afraid of backlash if he was fired?
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In comment 14139232 Britt in VA said:
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B in ALB, I think, brought up last week that Eli isn't calling out protections anymore, nor is he doing many audibles at the line, if any.
"55 is the Mike, 55 is the Mike, Omaha, Omaha..." felt burned into my brain for the better part of the last decade.
Have the new offenses under McAdoo and Shurmur taken that away from the QB? I'd have to go back and watch, or pay attention to it tonight, but I used to think one of the strongest aspects of Eli's game was identifying the defense/blitz, and then calling protection accordingly.
Does anybody know if that's happening anymore? I honestly hadn't noticed.
Oh the irony. Years of posters here begging for a more QB friendly system so Eli can put up gaudy stats, and now longing for the days of Gilbride after 2 WCO systems. The bottom line, Eli has always been best suited for Coughlin/Gilbride. Eli needs to be able to use his brains which he doesn’t as much anymore.
Everyone overreacted to 2013 which set the wheels in motion for this mess.
I could not possibly agree more. Mara...."The offense is broken" Let's fire the head coach's OC and undermine his authority in the locker room instead of holding the "rock star" young minority GM accountable for not getting the head coach and OC players that fit the system the 2 time SB winning MVP thrives in. Yeah, that's a good plan. I mean trying to fix what worked twice in 4 years is a fucking terrible idea. Eli will be fine changing to a completely different offensive philosophy at that stage of his career. Let's draft according to this nifty height/speed chart, instead of focusing on their college production. They will develop into the the JPP of X position players. Great idea.
The racism is fucking pathetic. Are you serious with this:
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...holding the "rock star" young minority GM accountable for not getting the head.
Do you really think Reese keeping his job had anything to do with his being black? Or Coughlin losing his because he was white?
Are some of you really this fucking stupid? The owner retained a kicker involved in a domestic abuse scandal because he thought he gave him a marginally better chance at winning, do you really think he'd have kept Reese around just because he was afraid of backlash if he was fired?
He fired him two years later. Did the US achieve some sort of racial nirvana in that time that made it easier?
He fired him two years later. Did the US achieve some sort of racial nirvana in that time that made it easier?