I just don't believe our talent is that much worse than all these other teams who manage to move the ball and put up points. Baldinger highlighting some basic problems here that have nothing to do with talent - when the other team is rushing 4 it's 5-4. Get a hat on everyone and get some help against the most disruptive player.
clean house again. color me very much unimpressed with Schurmur and Gettleman for a multitude of reasons. they inspire no confidence in turning this thing around at all.
That said we needed a center and I doubt they thought that
Brett Jones was the answer Halapio was playing decent before really an unlucky injury .
We have Two guys that have talent one is a rookie the other
is an aging LT . Really need for Wheeler to pan out he still
looks like he needs to bulk up and has the frame to do so.
the rest is a crap shoot .
I bet anything this Monday is the game where these idiots Â
admittedly, the slow motion could be skewing my view of it, but I just rewatched and I stand by my opinion on it - at least the first 2 plays.
there is at least 5 free yards in front of Eli (maybe more, but I can't tell from the camera angle) to either run or step up an make play. at least something better than a sack.
the 3rd did break down too quickly for anything good to happen.
RE: Hal Hunter, and by extension, Shula, and by extension, Shurmur Â
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
clean house again. color me very much unimpressed with Schurmur and Gettleman for a multitude of reasons. they inspire no confidence in turning this thing around at all.
+1. I hate to keep changing regimes ala the browns, but I think they screwed up with their “safe” GM pick and coach. I see no improvement in ANY area save Barkley and little to get excited about. But they probably won’t and we’ll be playing this same shit again next year....sad!
RE: RE: Hal Hunter, and by extension, Shula, and by extension, Shurmur Â
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
Shurmur?
Mcadoo continued to play 11 personnel despite his top 2 WRs going down. Shurmur attacked Philly by running spacing hook routes to his primary target 4th string TE.
Means and averages, 90% of coaches are bad to average.
If Shumur was good OC with Minnesota t when why are Giants bad. Â
Minnesota had a better OL and more mobile QB. The Giants have neither. The OL and Eli are an awful combination. No consistency. Giants lack of talent on OL is killing the offense.
The giants seem to suffer a breakdown play every single series! Multiple times a series! Most of the bad players are pretty good most of the time but just completely shit the bed more than the other players do. These breakdown plays have been killing us for years now. Beyond tired of it at this point.
Curious - did you even watch the clip, and do you know what clickbait is?
It's certainly not clickbait, and the clip he provided backs up his assertion. Granted, it's only one clip and one player in question - but he's done this for the Giants a bunch of times now, and they're all similar.
Tossed a prayer at a TE who shouldn't even have been on the roster that that's exactly what the playcalling meant to do.
The TE hook to the middle attacks the soft spot in a soft cover 2/Tampa 2 defense, which we have seen a lot lately. If that was Engrams he gets the catch, the MLB probably lulzed at the 4th string TE and did not respect the seam and attacked the hook.
I don’t like Halapio and the guys behind him aren’t good. We need to use a good resource to find a decent center.
The NYG know OC is a need. And badly. Rumor at the draft was they were going to go either Hernandez or Price with their 2nd pick. Price never made it to the 2nd round.
The line calls have been ridiculously bad. Baldinger points out several here against Philly, but, I have same the same crap in every one of the Giants games. Many cases where we have 4 against 2 on one side, and 2 against 2 on the other. And the 2 against 2 side would be the side that needed more help. The centers, first Halapio and now Greco seem to be going the wrong way consistently. Since its more than one player, I am wondering it its something with the scheme and or coaching.
admittedly, the slow motion could be skewing my view of it, but I just rewatched and I stand by my opinion on it - at least the first 2 plays.
there is at least 5 free yards in front of Eli (maybe more, but I can't tell from the camera angle) to either run or step up an make play. at least something better than a sack.
the 3rd did break down too quickly for anything good to happen.
When you're forced to rush the plays mroe thna likely instead of getting asked you'll commit a turnover. You assume just because a scrambling Qb can step up in the pocket under duress that that means it will turn out well. When your rushed in the manner ELi, you're more likely to make mistakes. And at some point instead of the little dink-dump offs Eli does your Qb will just start running more. It's all no good.
The OL is breaking down. Just because you have more of a scrambling QB doesn't make it all right. You win a few more games but still the team sucks.
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
Shurmur?
Is there anybody that's NOT anti-McAdoo? I kind of thought that was like the one thing we all agreed on?
Hunter's responsibility? Does he establish each individual game's blocking schemes/assignments? Or does he teach technique to the linemen? both? regarding the blocking schemes/assignments if not Hunter then who?
Hunter's responsibility? Does he establish each individual game's blocking schemes/assignments? Or does he teach technique to the linemen? both? regarding the blocking schemes/assignments if not Hunter then who?
Teams dont typically change blocking schemes from game to game. Assignments are a separate issue. The role of an position coach varies by team as it's set by the HC, but generally their job is to teach the scheme and maintain the fundamentals. Film review, technique drilling, developing young players.
Why is it that other teams can plug and play undrafted OL on a weekly basis and still put up 30 pts, but we are now 3 years in and 19 different guys and they are all incompetent and mess up simple assignments? Multiple coaches and yet the same thing over and over. Why is that?
What planning? The starting center was lost for the year. They're on their second backup.
There have been games where a more capable QB would have completed passes. Dont fall into the trap.
Then the bad coaches should be specifically named. Hal Hunter? Shula?...
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I believe he is a below average NFL QB now, but because of bad coaching and terrible line play, no QB would stand a chance.
There have been games where a more capable QB would have completed passes. Dont fall into the trap.
If you actually watch this film and think a "more capable QB" could be successful I don't know what to tell you...
Brett Jones was the answer Halapio was playing decent before really an unlucky injury .
We have Two guys that have talent one is a rookie the other
is an aging LT . Really need for Wheeler to pan out he still
looks like he needs to bulk up and has the frame to do so.
the rest is a crap shoot .
Instead Eli stood there and moved (slowly) at the last minute with no chance of success.
what a joke.
Instead Eli stood there and moved (slowly) at the last minute with no chance of success.
You literally have no idea what you are looking at then...
there is at least 5 free yards in front of Eli (maybe more, but I can't tell from the camera angle) to either run or step up an make play. at least something better than a sack.
the 3rd did break down too quickly for anything good to happen.
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
Shurmur?
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In comment 14137638 CT Charlie said:
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I believe he is a below average NFL QB now, but because of bad coaching and terrible line play, no QB would stand a chance.
There have been games where a more capable QB would have completed passes. Dont fall into the trap.
If you actually watch this film and think a "more capable QB" could be successful I don't know what to tell you...
The new Orleans game wasnt that long ago. Visual evidence exists.
the NFL should allow teams to tap out after say 8 games or so.
+1. I hate to keep changing regimes ala the browns, but I think they screwed up with their “safe” GM pick and coach. I see no improvement in ANY area save Barkley and little to get excited about. But they probably won’t and we’ll be playing this same shit again next year....sad!
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are looking like putrid hires
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
Shurmur?
Mcadoo continued to play 11 personnel despite his top 2 WRs going down. Shurmur attacked Philly by running spacing hook routes to his primary target 4th string TE.
Means and averages, 90% of coaches are bad to average.
Curious - did you even watch the clip, and do you know what clickbait is?
It's certainly not clickbait, and the clip he provided backs up his assertion. Granted, it's only one clip and one player in question - but he's done this for the Giants a bunch of times now, and they're all similar.
The TE hook to the middle attacks the soft spot in a soft cover 2/Tampa 2 defense, which we have seen a lot lately. If that was Engrams he gets the catch, the MLB probably lulzed at the 4th string TE and did not respect the seam and attacked the hook.
The NYG know OC is a need. And badly. Rumor at the draft was they were going to go either Hernandez or Price with their 2nd pick. Price never made it to the 2nd round.
I agree. Having a good young center next to Hernandez should open some holes for Barkley and help give Eli some time to throw.
The line calls have been ridiculously bad. Baldinger points out several here against Philly, but, I have same the same crap in every one of the Giants games. Many cases where we have 4 against 2 on one side, and 2 against 2 on the other. And the 2 against 2 side would be the side that needed more help. The centers, first Halapio and now Greco seem to be going the wrong way consistently. Since its more than one player, I am wondering it its something with the scheme and or coaching.
there is at least 5 free yards in front of Eli (maybe more, but I can't tell from the camera angle) to either run or step up an make play. at least something better than a sack.
the 3rd did break down too quickly for anything good to happen.
When you're forced to rush the plays mroe thna likely instead of getting asked you'll commit a turnover. You assume just because a scrambling Qb can step up in the pocket under duress that that means it will turn out well. When your rushed in the manner ELi, you're more likely to make mistakes. And at some point instead of the little dink-dump offs Eli does your Qb will just start running more. It's all no good.
The OL is breaking down. Just because you have more of a scrambling QB doesn't make it all right. You win a few more games but still the team sucks.
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are looking like putrid hires
The anti-McAdoo crowd will have their typical acid reflux reaction to this, but I don't know how anyone with a straight face can say Shurmur is an upgrade over McAdoo...
At least McAdoo, last year specifically, can point to massive injuries and the incompetence Reese.
Shurmur?
Is there anybody that's NOT anti-McAdoo? I kind of thought that was like the one thing we all agreed on?
Teams dont typically change blocking schemes from game to game. Assignments are a separate issue. The role of an position coach varies by team as it's set by the HC, but generally their job is to teach the scheme and maintain the fundamentals. Film review, technique drilling, developing young players.
and sooner or later the scrambler gets hurt