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NFT: Knicks vs. Bucks (Knox expected out 2-4 weeks)

DanMetroMan : 10/22/2018 9:45 am
Bucks are a very good team, potential top 3 seed This should be another L. I wonder if Fiz puts Frank on GF?

-Things are too smooth at MSG, Clarence Gaines Jr. has taken to ripping the team on twitter.
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begley said 1 week and then be reevaluated  
nygiants16 : 10/22/2018 9:48 am : link
dknt forget buss ripping the knicks as well, have to make the knicks look like a clown show..
tough break for Knox  
gmenatlarge : 10/22/2018 9:50 am : link
one of the few reasons to watch the knicks was to see his development.
RE: begley said 1 week and then be reevaluated  
DanMetroMan : 10/22/2018 9:52 am : link
In comment 14138571 nygiants16 said:
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dknt forget buss ripping the knicks as well, have to make the knicks look like a clown show..


Shams said 2-4
Will likely be another L, yes, but  
Giantology : 10/22/2018 9:52 am : link
Let's see how competitive they make it. If they are hang around til the end again, that will be huge for this young team.
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DanMetroMan : 10/22/2018 9:52 am : link
Shams Charania

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Sources on @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium: Initial timetable on New York Knicks rookie Kevin Knox: 2-to-4 weeks. Knox injured his left ankle tonight.
I know this isn't the point of the thread  
Strahan91 : 10/22/2018 9:54 am : link
but I was thinking based on Dan's comment about the Bucks being a top 3 seed who I think the top 3 will be. It really sucks that it's 3 of the other 4 teams in our division... At least it seems unlikely that Kawhi makes it past this year in Toronto but who knows with him.
One comment about the rest of the league  
dep026 : 10/22/2018 9:55 am : link
The NBA royally fucked up this Lakers situation. Ingram needed 10 games. Rondo needed at least 8 and CP at least 5. What a disgusting act by all.

And one other thing. I fucking LOATHE CP3. Could never win a big series if it mattered. Hurt again last year. The tough guy acts wears thin. That Rockets team is probably one of the most despisable teams ever. Maybe worse than the Bad Boys from Detroit.
I'm not on twitter  
Keith : 10/22/2018 9:55 am : link
and having been following this stuff, what did buss say? Gaines Jr?
RE: I'm not on twitter  
nygiants16 : 10/22/2018 9:57 am : link
In comment 14138596 Keith said:
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and having been following this stuff, what did buss say? Gaines Jr?


buss basically said that phil was undermined by the people around him and that is why he failed...

gaines ripped hezonja...

we all know why buss is coming out now..
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nygiants16 : 10/22/2018 9:58 am : link
In comment 14138588 DanMetroMan said:
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Shams Charania

Verified account

@ShamsCharania
Oct 20
More Shams Charania Retweeted Shams Charania
Sources on @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium: Initial timetable on New York Knicks rookie Kevin Knox: 2-to-4 weeks. Knox injured his left ankle tonight.


i know what shams said, and i just posted what begely said...
The Knicks havent exactly been a model franchise  
mfsd : 10/22/2018 9:59 am : link
as we know all too well, but Clarence Gaines and Jeannie Buss can go screw themselves. Jax turned out to be a disaster, no amount of acting like trolls on twitter or wherever changes that
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nygiants16 : 10/22/2018 9:59 am : link
Ian Begley
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Kevin Knox wont travel with the Knicks on their two-game road trip and will be re-evaluated in a week, the team said. He sprained his left ankle last night, which was confirmed by an MRI today.
RE: I'm not on twitter  
DanMetroMan : 10/22/2018 10:01 am : link
In comment 14138596 Keith said:
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and having been following this stuff, what did buss say? Gaines Jr?


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Kyrie  
DanMetroMan : 10/22/2018 10:03 am : link
confirmed he plans to sign with Boston and acknowledged the Knicks were on his short list before making that decision.
RE: Kyrie  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 10:10 am : link
In comment 14138611 DanMetroMan said:
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confirmed he plans to sign with Boston and acknowledged the Knicks were on his short list before making that decision.


Who gives a shit. Nothing to do with you Dan. But this is just another case of a star being linked or interested and nothing happening. Watch it happen again with KD this summer.
RE: RE: Kyrie  
nygiants16 : 10/22/2018 10:11 am : link
In comment 14138617 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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confirmed he plans to sign with Boston and acknowledged the Knicks were on his short list before making that decision.



Who gives a shit. Nothing to do with you Dan. But this is just another case of a star being linked or interested and nothing happening. Watch it happen again with KD this summer.


if he wasnt traded to boston he would have been a knick, he all but confirmed that
I found this to be hilarious  
Anakim : 10/22/2018 10:12 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: Kyrie  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 10:13 am : link
In comment 14138622 nygiants16 said:
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if he wasnt traded to boston he would have been a knick, he all but confirmed that


Not saying you're lying, but where did you see that at? That would be news to me.
Gaines pointed out that Mario's a bad defender which is true.  
Ira : 10/22/2018 10:13 am : link
I thought $8.6 was a lot to give him, but at least it's only for a year.
Unfortunately  
ghost718 : 10/22/2018 10:16 am : link
It's easy to believe that Jackson story.

I wouldn't be surprised if it got worse once they realized what Porzingis was,or what they think he'll be.

Kinda like a "We'll take it from here Phil,thanks"
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nygiants16 : 10/22/2018 10:17 am : link
In comment 14138627 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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if he wasnt traded to boston he would have been a knick, he all but confirmed that



Not saying you're lying, but where did you see that at? That would be news to me.


he basically said knicks heavily considered because of being from jersey, kp and wanting to play for fizdale but said there is no reason to leave a talented team in boston..
RE: Unfortunately  
Greg from LI : 10/22/2018 10:18 am : link
In comment 14138633 ghost718 said:
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It's easy to believe that Jackson story.

I wouldn't be surprised if it got worse once they realized what Porzingis was,or what they think he'll be.


Or once they realized that Phil was doing a piss-poor job.
RE: Kyrie  
mphbullet36 : 10/22/2018 10:20 am : link
In comment 14138611 DanMetroMan said:
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confirmed he plans to sign with Boston and acknowledged the Knicks were on his short list before making that decision.


to be honest im glad. Kyrie doesn't look completely cooked. But the injuries have taken a seriously tole on him and I would be very concerned about giving him a super max deal into his 30's.

Durant/Kawhi/Klay/Middleton I would give the bank to (not that there is a great likelihood any of them come but we can dream
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nygiants16 : 10/22/2018 10:20 am : link
In comment 14138641 Greg from LI said:
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It's easy to believe that Jackson story.

I wouldn't be surprised if it got worse once they realized what Porzingis was,or what they think he'll be.




Or once they realized that Phil was doing a piss-poor job.


not to mention kp hated phil jackson
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 10:24 am : link
In comment 14138637 nygiants16 said:
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he basically said knicks heavily considered because of being from jersey, kp and wanting to play for fizdale but said there is no reason to leave a talented team in boston..


Knicks were considered. Gotcha. Pretty much gonna be the same story for KD. "Coulda played with the Unicorn and under Fiz. But I got 4 other all-stars here in GS with me. I'm good"
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mfsd : 10/22/2018 10:24 am : link
In comment 14138648 nygiants16 said:
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It's easy to believe that Jackson story.

I wouldn't be surprised if it got worse once they realized what Porzingis was,or what they think he'll be.




Or once they realized that Phil was doing a piss-poor job.



not to mention kp hated phil jackson


As well as the coaches Jax brought in, Fisher and Hornacek
If you saw how well Kyrie has played this year....  
dep026 : 10/22/2018 10:25 am : link
you wouldnt want him on the Knicks.
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Mike in NY : 10/22/2018 10:27 am : link
In comment 14138657 mfsd said:
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It's easy to believe that Jackson story.

I wouldn't be surprised if it got worse once they realized what Porzingis was,or what they think he'll be.




Or once they realized that Phil was doing a piss-poor job.



not to mention kp hated phil jackson



As well as the coaches Jax brought in, Fisher and Hornacek


Every team that has been stuck with Rambis has been awful unless they had the talent to overcome him.
RE: If you saw how well Kyrie has played this year....  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 10:27 am : link
In comment 14138659 dep026 said:
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you wouldnt want him on the Knicks.


I agree. We did. Two days ago. Against the Knicks. He doesn't look like a max player to me.

KD or bust. Anthony Davis or bust. But I think Chicago might actually have the best shot at landing Davis.
the media and instagram  
hitdog42 : 10/22/2018 10:29 am : link
love kyrie- so they will always create this sense that he is better than he is
Jackson  
TyreeHelmet : 10/22/2018 10:30 am : link
What is Buss talking about? How could you possibly make excuses for Phil?

The guy made one right move and a million bad ones. He couldnt have done a worse job if he tried.
For a reminder....  
dep026 : 10/22/2018 10:31 am : link
Derrick Rose last 2 games.

21 points
4.5 rebounds
6.5 assists

All off the bench. Just give the man the 6th player of year award and comeback player of the year award.
Rambis still seems like a bad dream  
Greg from LI : 10/22/2018 10:33 am : link
Because no one could have possibly installed Kurt Rambis as a head coach in 2016, right? RIGHT?
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ghost718 : 10/22/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 14138641 Greg from LI said:
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Or once they realized that Phil was doing a piss-poor job.


I don't agree with the wording

When I think of piss poor,I think of what we're currently looking at,and all the possibilities.
Phil Jacksons Knick Resume  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 10:39 am : link
Drafted KP

-Hired Derek Fisher as head coach and Kurt Rambis
-Promoted Kurt Rambis to head coach
-Hired Jeff Hornacek as head coach
-Tried to instill the archaic Triangle Offense without the proper personnel
-Joakim Noah- 4 years, 72 million
-Melo- 120+ million dollar extension (later publically bashing him leaving little trade value)


RE: Jackson  
nygiants16 : 10/22/2018 10:41 am : link
In comment 14138674 TyreeHelmet said:
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What is Buss talking about? How could you possibly make excuses for Phil?

The guy made one right move and a million bad ones. He couldnt have done a worse job if he tried.


cmon tyree think about it, who are the 2 main teams linked to durant?

Lakers thought players would flock to la once lebron signed and now tjey are getting the opposite
I have a feeling the Ron Baker contract was also Phil's doing.  
bceagle05 : 10/22/2018 10:44 am : link
He was fired days before the free agency period officially opened - I bet he had an agreement in principle with Baker that Mills decided to honor. Hornacek liked him, too.
RE: Phil Jacksons Knick Resume  
Keith : 10/22/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 14138690 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Drafted KP

-Hired Derek Fisher as head coach and Kurt Rambis
-Promoted Kurt Rambis to head coach
-Hired Jeff Hornacek as head coach
-Tried to instill the archaic Triangle Offense without the proper personnel
-Joakim Noah- 4 years, 72 million
-Melo- 120+ million dollar extension (later publically bashing him leaving little trade value)



You missed the biggest mistake. It wasn't giving Melo a huge extension, it was the NTC.
RE: I have a feeling the Ron Baker contract was also Phil's doing.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 14138703 bceagle05 said:
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He was fired days before the free agency period officially opened - I bet he had an agreement in principle with Baker that Mills decided to honor. Hornacek liked him, too.


That's reaching. You don't need to honor a contract with a subpar player once the person responsible is no longer in that position. Mills is shit on a stick too. His first two moves once Phil was gone was to give Baker a contract no other team would have given him, and then overpay for Hardaway.
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 10:48 am : link
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You missed the biggest mistake. It wasn't giving Melo a huge extension, it was the NTC.


Good catch. Made it even more asinine to why he would publically bash him.
RE: RE: I have a feeling the Ron Baker contract was also Phil's doing.  
nygiants16 : 10/22/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 14138707 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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He was fired days before the free agency period officially opened - I bet he had an agreement in principle with Baker that Mills decided to honor. Hornacek liked him, too.



That's reaching. You don't need to honor a contract with a subpar player once the person responsible is no longer in that position. Mills is shit on a stick too. His first two moves once Phil was gone was to give Baker a contract no other team would have given him, and then overpay for Hardaway.


you dont back out of an agreement because you never know when you wi have to deal with an agent again...

RE: RE: I have a feeling the Ron Baker contract was also Phil's doing.  
Mike in NY : 10/22/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 14138707 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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He was fired days before the free agency period officially opened - I bet he had an agreement in principle with Baker that Mills decided to honor. Hornacek liked him, too.



That's reaching. You don't need to honor a contract with a subpar player once the person responsible is no longer in that position. Mills is shit on a stick too. His first two moves once Phil was gone was to give Baker a contract no other team would have given him, and then overpay for Hardaway.


Mills was trying to curry favor with ownership and if the Dolan family likes Baker, he might have felt compelled to honor
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 10:50 am : link
In comment 14138711 nygiants16 said:
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you dont back out of an agreement because you never know when you wi have to deal with an agent again...


It's Ron Baker.
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nygiants16 : 10/22/2018 10:51 am : link
In comment 14138717 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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you dont back out of an agreement because you never know when you wi have to deal with an agent again...




It's Ron Baker.


it is not about the player
Lets put it this way  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 10:53 am : link
if the Knicks decided to honor a contract that no one else would have given Ron Baker (2 years, 9 million.. with a no trade clause essentially). If they decided to not revisit that verbal agreement they had because they are scared of Ron Bakers agent, then they are even more stupid than I thought.
RE: Lets put it this way  
Mike in NY : 10/22/2018 10:57 am : link
In comment 14138728 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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if the Knicks decided to honor a contract that no one else would have given Ron Baker (2 years, 9 million.. with a no trade clause essentially). If they decided to not revisit that verbal agreement they had because they are scared of Ron Bakers agent, then they are even more stupid than I thought.


It is not just about this agent's other clients. The pool of agents is not that large. If you screw with one, all will know about it. Good luck trying to get a deal done if they don't trust a verbal
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 11:03 am : link
In comment 14138742 Mike in NY said:
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if the Knicks decided to honor a contract that no one else would have given Ron Baker (2 years, 9 million.. with a no trade clause essentially). If they decided to not revisit that verbal agreement they had because they are scared of Ron Bakers agent, then they are even more stupid than I thought.



It is not just about this agent's other clients. The pool of agents is not that large. If you screw with one, all will know about it. Good luck trying to get a deal done if they don't trust a verbal


This is New York. I doubt this is it how it would go down.

KDs Agent: "Hey KD, Knicks want to sign you, give you top dollar. The Mecca, the Garden, all of that. But I would advise caution because they went back on their verbal agreement with Ron fkin Baker"

KD: "Who?"

KDs Agent: "Ron Baker, shot maker, cant trader."

KD: "They did Ronnie Bakes like that? Yeah I'm signing elsewhere"

Just my opinion.
Pure speculation on my part about Baker.  
bceagle05 : 10/22/2018 11:03 am : link
He just seemed like a such a "Phil" player, but Mills is more than capable of giving out an awful contract. Either way, Ronnie will be gone soon enough.
When you lose Ron Baker, you've lost middle America.  
bceagle05 : 10/22/2018 11:04 am : link
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RE: Pure speculation on my part about Baker.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2018 11:04 am : link
In comment 14138755 bceagle05 said:
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He just seemed like a such a "Phil" player, but Mills is more than capable of giving out an awful contract. Either way, Ronnie will be gone soon enough.


Agreed.
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