L.P. Ladouceur was absolute crap. What bothers me is that he had several long snaps earlier in the game...did he do something radically different on that last snap. I saw a close up video of it and I did not see him do anything different to draw the Washington DL. And I freaking hate Dallas!
But, geezus, if this kind of bullshit is going to be allowed then the league is really screwed. Riveron is just a lackey, a mouthpiece for defending the shield, but IMO, the official who called that deserves to be fired immediately.
My God, that was bad, really, really bad. If that had happened to us, we'd be screaming here today.
Evidently he uses that same motion very time and if that's the case it's not a penalty. It's only supposed to be a penalty when a long snapper changes his normal snap. At least according to the guys on NBC last night.
I hate Jones, as everybody knows, but I'd be up Riveron's ass today if I were Jones. That was just fucking brutal!
I hate Jones, as everybody knows, but I'd be up Riveron's ass today if I were Jones. That was just fucking brutal!
I agree with that. I just think it's an unusual motion compared to most centers/long snappers. I could be wrong. I don't think it should've been a penalty.
I agree with this. If the defender doesn't jump it's likely not flagged, but the defender clearly reacted to the LS moving the ball. Would be a worse call if they called it on the D there.
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wasn't completely out of hand. It was enough movement to draw them offsides.
I agree with this. If the defender doesn't jump it's likely not flagged, but the defender clearly reacted to the LS moving the ball. Would be a worse call if they called it on the D there.
Totally the truth, there were worse calls on Redzone yesterday
2. not sure we saw the whole thing- the replay I saw cut off before it showed the Redskins jump offsides. I couldn't tell if something more egregious happened between the time the replay cut off and the time when the Skins player came offsides.
The NFL's "penalty summary" says a penalty may be assessed for "failing to give impulse by continuous motion or sliding hands along ball before snap."
That's what the Dallas snapper did, after he had the ball set and the line were set.
The pertinent penalty rule itself says the snap "must be one quick and continuous motion of the hand or hands of the snapper."
The Dallas snapper did not satisfy this requirement.
If a snapper pushes the rules and no one jumps and no penalty is called, it doesn't immunize him from being penalized when someone does jump.
There was apparently discussion on Washington sports radio that Jay Gruden had given the officials a heads up before the game. Good for him.
Again - whether or not people agree with the call - it is another instance of refs making a call that impacts the outcome of a game, and likely on the wrong side of what the call should have been.
I'm still wondering how replay allowed an overturn in the Eagles game on a play that never had conclusive video evidence to overturn.
You're basically throwing darts at the Wheel of Incompetence weekly
Yet somehow - they OVERTURNED the ruling on the field. And, at a critical point during the game as well.
If I were Ron Rivera my handprints would have been on that ref's neck after that one.
I seem to remember Ohara getting called for something similar against the Colts, with us driving for the tieing or winning score, and we had a ten second runoff and lost the game.
Is that just on offense, but not special teams?
2. not sure we saw the whole thing- the replay I saw cut off before it showed the Redskins jump offsides. I couldn't tell if something more egregious happened between the time the replay cut off and the time when the Skins player came offsides.
You're right; the replay on the telecast stopped too soon.
The NFL issued a tweet supporting the call with a close-up of the original head-on live telecast shot. That's the best we're going to get.
bobbing and weaving - ( New Window )
It was almost like they were setting the audience up for the call to be overturned.
I hate going into tinfoil hat areas, but that seemed strange how they were all in agreement that the ball CLEARLY hit the ground.
I seem to remember Ohara getting called for something similar against the Colts, with us driving for the tieing or winning score, and we had a ten second runoff and lost the game.
Is that just on offense, but not special teams?
I don't think that applies when the clock's not running. Dallas had taken a TO.
It was almost like they were setting the audience up for the call to be overturned.
I hate going into tinfoil hat areas, but that seemed strange how they were all in agreement that the ball CLEARLY hit the ground.
Nah, you're dead wrong - Dean Blandino himself chimed in to say he saw the ball hit the ground.
(from where, I have no idea)
At least. If that was against us you bet your ass it wouldve split the uprights leading to a shot of Jerry clapping and grinning in his suite
It was almost like they were setting the audience up for the call to be overturned.
I hate going into tinfoil hat areas, but that seemed strange how they were all in agreement that the ball CLEARLY hit the ground.
It looked to me that the ball was touching the ground. And did he have control? That's the key, because the ball can be touching the ground if you have control...but it was one handed control and flimsy at best IMO. I believe the ball moved a bit, and to me that's touching the ground.
I was wondering why they didn't zoom in on the replay (or is that a CBS feature?).
Poor officiating in the NFL has become almost a random variable. It will cost teams individual games, but the NFL seems fine with it since they do nothing to address it. Maybe they operate under the assumption in that long term it will eventually impact all teams similarly?
That's all I have.
That DB could have done the Rumba... the key point was whether the ball hit the ground. The ruling on the field was 'catch.' To overturn that call was just as bizzare as it could get.
The announcers originally said the ball never appeared to hit the ground. After the dopey ex-referee mumbled something about the nose of the ball appearing to graze the top of the grass, they changed their tune.
Again - whether or not people agree with the call - it is another instance of refs making a call that impacts the outcome of a game, and likely on the wrong side of what the call should have been.
I'm still wondering how replay allowed an overturn in the Eagles game on a play that never had conclusive video evidence to overturn.
You're basically throwing darts at the Wheel of Incompetence weekly