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NFT: 3 finalists for Mets GM job (Bloom, Melvin, BVW)

DanMetroMan : 10/22/2018 1:38 pm
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Source: Chaim Bloom, Doug Melvin and Brodie Van Wagenen are the Mets' three GM finalists. They will conduct call-back interviews beginning tomorrow. All other candidates are out.
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So  
DanMetroMan : 10/23/2018 2:35 pm : link
the Giants and Orioles aren't interested.
are you kidding me?  
CMicks3110 : 10/23/2018 2:38 pm : link
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Which team is in worse shape
gmenrule : 9:39 am : link : reply
the Giants or the Mets ? Nothing but gray skies for 2-3 years at a minimum for Giants. Probably longer for the Mets.


Look at both team's rosters. The Mets are light years ahead of the Giants both at the major league and minor league level. The only good player the SFGiants have right now is really Mad Bumgarner. Who it would behoove them to move this off-season.

The Giants franchise is in very very bad shape, they have almost zero talent at the ML level, and they have an Elite Catching prospect (Joey Bart) and that's it. It's going to be a 4-5 year rebuild for them. They have stupid contracts in Longoria, Posey, Cueto, Crawford, Belt, and Samardjiza. They are in terrible shape.

Mets actually aren't in bad shape. They have some difficult questions on players to sign, such as Wheeler and deGrom. But they have young talent and really need 1 major core player (I.e. machado) and a bullpen and I think they can compete. .
This hire would be so typical of the Wilpons  
moespree : 10/23/2018 2:39 pm : link
I hate using that phrase but holy shit does it fit in this instance. Complete and utter disaster in the making isn't even the right way to describe what this would be. It is beyond that.
this franchise is so bizarre  
Eric on Li : 10/23/2018 2:41 pm : link
Melvin's track record isn't that bad. He did well in Texas. He inherited a terrible situation in Milwaukee and took them out of the cellar. Yost was a pretty good hire I guess. He seems very Sandy-ish. I actually wonder if maybe that works against him. Clearly the Wilpons had a little bit of a bitter taste in their mouth towards the end of the Sandy regime, I wonder if people are too heavily discounting the possibility that they go in a different direction this time in hopes of finding someone young, and who they may be able to influence more than a more established exec.

Hard to trust them whatever way they go TBH, but I guess it's not as bad as it could have been considering all the other candidates who thankfully didn't make the final 3. I'll reserve judgement until hearing more - especially how much control over front office personnel the ultimate choice gets.
RE: this franchise is so bizarre  
DanMetroMan : 10/23/2018 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14144231 Eric on Li said:
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Melvin's track record isn't that bad. He did well in Texas. He inherited a terrible situation in Milwaukee and took them out of the cellar. Yost was a pretty good hire I guess. He seems very Sandy-ish. I actually wonder if maybe that works against him. Clearly the Wilpons had a little bit of a bitter taste in their mouth towards the end of the Sandy regime, I wonder if people are too heavily discounting the possibility that they go in a different direction this time in hopes of finding someone young, and who they may be able to influence more than a more established exec.

Hard to trust them whatever way they go TBH, but I guess it's not as bad as it could have been considering all the other candidates who thankfully didn't make the final 3. I'll reserve judgement until hearing more - especially how much control over front office personnel the ultimate choice gets.


You won't "hear" anything. The Mets have long maintained they are hands off... and then it's not the case. In fact a few weeks ago Jeff acknowledging all roster moves go through him was something of a revelation. Melvin already claims he'd be able to do what he wants, Sandy said the same. Neither will be accurate.
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what you definitely want to have to do is have to clarify the statements of your 66-year-old GM-in-waiting on his public interview conference call because he came across as confused and out of touch
When a guy  
pjcas18 : 10/23/2018 2:44 pm : link
says I'm here only because I don't have a better opportunity, you don't hire him.

period. It's not even really a discussion IMO, especially a role to critical for franchise future success.

And for him to say this publicly makes it seems almost like he doesn't want the job but felt like he had to take the interview.
RE: RE: this franchise is so bizarre  
Eric on Li : 10/23/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14144238 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14144231 Eric on Li said:


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Melvin's track record isn't that bad. He did well in Texas. He inherited a terrible situation in Milwaukee and took them out of the cellar. Yost was a pretty good hire I guess. He seems very Sandy-ish. I actually wonder if maybe that works against him. Clearly the Wilpons had a little bit of a bitter taste in their mouth towards the end of the Sandy regime, I wonder if people are too heavily discounting the possibility that they go in a different direction this time in hopes of finding someone young, and who they may be able to influence more than a more established exec.

Hard to trust them whatever way they go TBH, but I guess it's not as bad as it could have been considering all the other candidates who thankfully didn't make the final 3. I'll reserve judgement until hearing more - especially how much control over front office personnel the ultimate choice gets.



You won't "hear" anything. The Mets have long maintained they are hands off... and then it's not the case. In fact a few weeks ago Jeff acknowledging all roster moves go through him was something of a revelation. Melvin already claims he'd be able to do what he wants, Sandy said the same. Neither will be accurate.


We will hear if Omar is still employed. And Ricco. And JP. And if the new GM gets to bring in some new names or add analytics people etc. To me the answer to those questions are almost as important as the GM hire itself - the new GM should get to start fresh from top to bottom. But if Shecky's hints are accurate I guess we already know that's not happening.
RE: RE: RE: this franchise is so bizarre  
DanMetroMan : 10/23/2018 2:49 pm : link
In comment 14144246 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14144238 DanMetroMan said:


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In comment 14144231 Eric on Li said:


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Melvin's track record isn't that bad. He did well in Texas. He inherited a terrible situation in Milwaukee and took them out of the cellar. Yost was a pretty good hire I guess. He seems very Sandy-ish. I actually wonder if maybe that works against him. Clearly the Wilpons had a little bit of a bitter taste in their mouth towards the end of the Sandy regime, I wonder if people are too heavily discounting the possibility that they go in a different direction this time in hopes of finding someone young, and who they may be able to influence more than a more established exec.

Hard to trust them whatever way they go TBH, but I guess it's not as bad as it could have been considering all the other candidates who thankfully didn't make the final 3. I'll reserve judgement until hearing more - especially how much control over front office personnel the ultimate choice gets.



You won't "hear" anything. The Mets have long maintained they are hands off... and then it's not the case. In fact a few weeks ago Jeff acknowledging all roster moves go through him was something of a revelation. Melvin already claims he'd be able to do what he wants, Sandy said the same. Neither will be accurate.



We will hear if Omar is still employed. And Ricco. And JP. And if the new GM gets to bring in some new names or add analytics people etc. To me the answer to those questions are almost as important as the GM hire itself - the new GM should get to start fresh from top to bottom. But if Shecky's hints are accurate I guess we already know that's not happening.


I will be absolutely STUNNED if Omar and Ricco don't return. Ricciardi isn't even usually "on-site" so his return means very little. Omar has helped pick the candidates, he's coming back.
At very best  
DanMetroMan : 10/23/2018 2:50 pm : link
Melvin will be allowed to bring "someone" with him. He's not getting rid of who is here. Ricciardi I could see leaving. But Omar 100% returning and Ricco 99%.
.  
DanMetroMan : 10/23/2018 3:21 pm : link
in 13 seasons as Brewers GM, the team was over .500 four times and 90 or more just twice.
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 10/23/2018 3:35 pm : link
In comment 14144361 DanMetroMan said:
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in 13 seasons as Brewers GM, the team was over .500 four times and 90 or more just twice.


I don't want Melvin, under any circumstances, but for comparison in 8 seasons (including 2018) as Mets GM, Sandy's Mets were over .500 twice and never won more than 90 games.

Melvin seems consistent with that production.
Melvin also joined Milwaukee when they won < 80 games 9 of prev 10 yrs  
Eric on Li : 10/23/2018 5:59 pm : link
including winning under 70 games in 5 of those years years (twice under 60, including the year before he was hired). He turned them around and I believe he did so with a pretty middle of the road payroll. Drafted Weeks, Gallardo, Cain, Braun, Brantley, Lucroy, Khris Davis, Haniger. I prefer Bloom but I don't hate Melvin - especially if he can poach some young talent for the FO from elsewhere. His comments are bizarre but I can't imagine the Mets could screw up the basics of hiring a guy who actually wants the job. Actually I guess I can.

If Omar is 100% staying that's extremely troubling to me bc of his direct relationship with ownership and as much as I expect it (bc mets) I'm going to cross my fingers until there's an announcement. I'm less worried about Ricco.
Just get this over with...  
ZGiants98 : 10/23/2018 8:17 pm : link
Still feel this team has a young nucleus, can compete with a few moves, and has a promising farm again. Let's get the offseason started and get the front office in place. Whoever it is.
Im expecting an overreaction either way...  
ZGiants98 : 10/23/2018 8:23 pm : link
If its Bloom it will be an overly positive reaction. Same as Callaway until we got one week into the season and everyone was ready to string him up. Bloom's first bad move, and the shine will be gone in two seconds. If Melvin's the hire, everyone will want to burn down the stadium and it likely won't be warranted.

Some rough comments or not over the last few years, he's probably not terrible.
and for the record...  
ZGiants98 : 10/23/2018 8:24 pm : link
I prefer Bloom.
Wonder what time tonight  
Shecky : 10/24/2018 10:46 am : link
Info leaks? Fast and furious, followed by denials, followed by unofficial confirmation? Or can everyone wait till tomorrow lol
RE: Wonder what time tonight  
GF1080 : 10/24/2018 11:34 am : link
In comment 14146233 Shecky said:
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Info leaks? Fast and furious, followed by denials, followed by unofficial confirmation? Or can everyone wait till tomorrow lol


So do we have no shot at Bloom? 100% Melvin? Why would Bloom go along with the charade?
Saw on twitter today that Melvin is definitely the favorite right now  
Eric on Li : 10/24/2018 12:41 pm : link
i'm mixed on him vs. Bloom and see both sides I guess.

The side I'm most worried about isn't either of them, it's ownership, so I'm curious to see how much autonomy either of them gets to truly change things.

1 underrated fact about Melvin looking at his time in Milwaukee, I didn't realize how low their payrolls were. That's a pretty interesting common thread between him and Bloom that probably isn't getting as much attention as it should as a further indictment of how the Wilpons plan to continue running things here.
Would  
DanMetroMan : 10/24/2018 12:46 pm : link
love to see Melvin bring Matt Arnold with him but I doubt Arnold is going to wait 2-3 years nor do I think the Mets would give him a significant raise.

-Should also be noted Melvin noted the analytics staff was thin, great job by Fred for rejecting Sandy's requests for help
a GM that is "probably not terrible" is just  
Metnut : 10/24/2018 12:48 pm : link
not good enough for me. I want to hire someone who has a chance to be a top 5 GM who can be here for over a decade. A mediocre hire can set us back another half decade or more. Give how little success Alderson had here in 9 years, I think Met fans deserve something better.

Look at the operations the Dodgers, Cubs, Red Sox, Yankees, Astros are all running. We need to set something up to compete with that. I'm worried that Melvin will just try to sign a few band-aids in the offseason and we'll hope for everything to break right.

Hopefully ownership does the right thing here for once. The GM is so much more important than the manager that it cannot be overstated.
RE: Would  
Metnut : 10/24/2018 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14146836 DanMetroMan said:
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love to see Melvin bring Matt Arnold with him but I doubt Arnold is going to wait 2-3 years nor do I think the Mets would give him a significant raise.

-Should also be noted Melvin noted the analytics staff was thin, great job by Fred for rejecting Sandy's requests for help


It's crazy that Fred thinks that Sandy relied too much on analytics. He gave Alderson a bare bones staff (which Alderson ignored anyway when making the awful Vargas and Bruce deals).

What a mess. We're going to need a smart guy with a lot of energy to get a functioning organization running.
If Melvin was too tired  
Metnut : 10/24/2018 12:54 pm : link
to be a full time GM 3 years ago (by his own admission!), he hopefully had the right answers to how he's ready to be a full-time GM now.

I'm worried that if he hire Melvin, he'll just be an executive type with Ricco and Minaya running the day-to-day show.
RE: Wonder what time tonight  
pjcas18 : 10/24/2018 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14146233 Shecky said:
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Info leaks? Fast and furious, followed by denials, followed by unofficial confirmation? Or can everyone wait till tomorrow lol

Come on Shecky tell us what you know. Or at least give us hints. If you were near me I'd ply you with booze until you talked. or passed out.
All of the division/95+ winners invest more resources than Mets across  
Eric on Li : 10/24/2018 1:06 pm : link
the board - payroll, analytics, everything.

Top teams by analytic staffs:
Yankees (20)
Dodgers (20)
Astros (15)
Braves (15)
Brewers (11)
Lowest division winner was Red Sox with 6
Mets - 3

Payroll Rankings:
Red Sox #1 (228m)
Dodgers #3 (200m)
Cubs #4 (195m)
Yankees #6 (175m)
Astros #9 (163m)
Brewers (#22 - 108m) and Braves (#18 - 130m) lowest of winners
Mets - (#12 pre-insurance 150m, with insurance probably closer to 100m)

They need to invest more resources on the field and in the front office period. The resource part of the equation is just as important as who they hire to be GM.
RE: RE: Wonder what time tonight  
Eric on Li : 10/24/2018 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14146888 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14146233 Shecky said:


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Info leaks? Fast and furious, followed by denials, followed by unofficial confirmation? Or can everyone wait till tomorrow lol


Come on Shecky tell us what you know. Or at least give us hints. If you were near me I'd ply you with booze until you talked. or passed out.


I think he's basically confirming it's Melvin.
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DanMetroMan : 10/24/2018 1:23 pm : link
Rookie maximums for at-bats (130), games pitched (30) or innings (50) in the major leagues"

If the 2 leaders are within 5% of each other, or the leader has less than 35% there will be a run-off between the top 2. If a run-off results in a tie the tiebreaker will be vote total in the previous poll, we will continue to "go back" in the polls until there is a clear leader.

*Jeff McNeil is ineligible
*Chris Flexen is ineligible

1) Andres Gimenez (SS) AA 19/37 votes- 51%
2) Peter Alonso (1B) AAA 24/36 votes- 67%
3) Jarred Kelenic (CF) Kingsport 31/36-86%
4) Ronny Mauricio (SS) Kingsport 12/33-36%
5) Justin Dunn (RHP) AA 10/37-27%, Run-off with Mark Vientos 17/30-57%
6) Mark Vientos (3b) Kingsport 16/31-52%
7) David Peterson (LHP) A+ 21/31- 68%
8) Franklyn Kilome (RHP) AA 20/33-61%
9) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) A 18/32-56%
10) Shervyen Newton (SS) Kingsport 12/30-40%, Run-off with Anthony Kay 17/33-52%
11) Anthony Kay (LHP) AA 18/26-69%
12) Simeon Woods-Richardson (RHP) Kingsport 12/30-40%
13) Luis Santana (2B) 15/26-58%
14) Will Toffey (3B) 10/29-34%, run-off with Cecchini 15/27-56%
15) Gavin Cecchini (2b) 14/26-46%
16) Francisco Alvarez (C) 9/26-35%
17) Dez Lindsay (OF) 7/18-39%
18) Tony Dibrell (RHP) 9/23-39%
19) Jordan Humphreys (RHP) 7/21-33%, Run-off with Nido 18/24-75%
Man am I disappointed in that list  
Shecky : 10/24/2018 4:16 pm : link
Couple of names Id like to see on there, but can understand why not. But one hurts, sticking out like a sore thumb.

Lol, Ill take the night of drinking, but I dont know shit!!!
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pjcas18 : 10/24/2018 7:24 pm : link

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Peter Alonso went 3-for-5 with a double, home run and two RBI tonight for the Scottsdale Scorpions.

He leades the AFL with 4 homers.
Need new owners  
spike : 10/24/2018 8:37 pm : link
who would cater to the GM. Not the other way around
Did the Bloom interview  
Metnut : 10/24/2018 8:56 pm : link
happen today? I thought they were going to make him available to the media?
RE: Did the Bloom interview  
Shecky : 10/24/2018 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14147861 Metnut said:
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happen today? I thought they were going to make him available to the media?

To orrow
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pjcas18 : 10/24/2018 10:02 pm : link

Michael Mayer
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Mets top prospect Andres Gimenez went 1-for-3 with a triple, three RBI and two walks today in AFL action.

He played second base again.
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Mets outfield prospect Desmond Lindsay continued his strong AFL campaign today, going 2-for-5 with a homer and two RBI.
Thanks PJ  
Shecky : 10/24/2018 10:16 pm : link
For the AFL updates!
saw on twitter Alonso hit a ball harder tonight than any met this year  
Eric on Li : 10/24/2018 10:31 pm : link
his prospect status can certainly be discounted by his defense, but there are very few minor league hitters poised to step into the majors next year with a bigger immediate impact.
He actually DESTROYED two of them  
Shecky : 10/24/2018 10:54 pm : link
Why he gets so overlooked is beyond me.
Does he have warts, of course every player does.
But he canhe also do some things only a few humans on this planet can do? You bet your ass.
Not the second coming of Bonds no one expects that. But there is a potential plus player there, yet no one wants to believe it.
Really looking forward  
Metnut : 10/24/2018 10:56 pm : link
to seeing Alonso next year. Its been a while since weve had a 1B that we felt really good about.

Nice to see signs of life from Lindsay too.
Interesting NY Post article - unfair stereotyping of Bloom & Melvin  
Ira : 10/25/2018 6:00 am : link
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According to people in rival front offices who know both men, the "old school/new school" labels are not only demeaning to both Bloom, 35, and Melvin, 66, but are inaccurate. In reality, both men occupy a different space in the vast middle ground where most successful executives reside....

A Brewers source said that Melvin would sometimes override his scouts' recommendation and make a decision based on analytics, and sometimes would ignore the data to listen to his scouts -- as any competent GM would....

But one label that is not fair to affix to Bloom is "analytics guy." He's a baseball guy -- like Doug Melvin.

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The adult  
Shecky : 10/25/2018 7:31 am : link
May be adulting
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pjcas18 : 10/25/2018 8:39 am : link

Michael Mayer
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Exit velocity on each of Peter Alonso's three hits yesterday in the Arizona Fall League:

Single (99.3 MPH)
Homer (113.6 MPH)
Double (116.3 MPH, hardest ball hit by Mets/Mets prospect since Statcast started tracking data in 2015)
Brewers  
DanMetroMan : 10/25/2018 9:24 am : link
draft record under Melvin was awful. He's going to be the pick but I'm extremely underwhelmed.
RE: Interesting NY Post article - unfair stereotyping of Bloom & Melvin  
Eric on Li : 10/25/2018 9:24 am : link
In comment 14148129 Ira said:
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According to people in rival front offices who know both men, the "old school/new school" labels are not only demeaning to both Bloom, 35, and Melvin, 66, but are inaccurate. In reality, both men occupy a different space in the vast middle ground where most successful executives reside....

A Brewers source said that Melvin would sometimes override his scouts' recommendation and make a decision based on analytics, and sometimes would ignore the data to listen to his scouts -- as any competent GM would....

But one label that is not fair to affix to Bloom is "analytics guy." He's a baseball guy -- like Doug Melvin.


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Honestly, I like things about both Bloom (my preference) and Melvin (who seems like a competent and safe pick). All things considered I will be happy with either - IF (big if) - they get autonomy and resources to bring the entire org from the stone ages into it's rightful place as a modern team in a big market.

I want a top 10 payroll (without including insurance $), an investment in an analytics team, and a few FO hires poached from around baseball to help fill in whatever weaknesses the final choice might have. None of that is unreasonable for a profitable organization trying to compete for the playoffs in a major market. It's the bare minimum that should be expected.
Sandy's  
DanMetroMan : 10/25/2018 9:26 am : link
drafts during the time where Melvin was in Milwaukee were inarguably were better than the Brewers during Melvin's tenure and the Mets drafts weren't that amazing to begin with
2011  
DanMetroMan : 10/25/2018 9:30 am : link
Taylor Jungmann 12th overall

Jed Bradley 15th overall

2012 Mitch Hanigar 38th overall

The Brewers haven't had a 1st round pick play in a big league game since Hanigar (2012 pick)

Since 2011 the Mets have had 6 1st round picks play in a big league game and that includes Harvey, Fulmer, Nimmo and Conforto.
Dan - have you heard that from an insider...  
Drewcon40 : 10/25/2018 9:36 am : link
...I know you are very plugged in.

Please just say you are assuming that's the pick and that Bloom has a chance.
Yup  
DanMetroMan : 10/25/2018 9:38 am : link
Melvin it is


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Sounds like Chaim Bloom, who interviewed yesterday for the Mets GM opening, will not be holding a conference call with reporters. He is expected to issue a statement, as did Brodie Van Wagenen earlier in the week.
RE: Dan - have you heard that from an insider...  
DanMetroMan : 10/25/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 14148426 Drewcon40 said:
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...I know you are very plugged in.

Please just say you are assuming that's the pick and that Bloom has a chance.


Shecky has hinted at Melvin all along and the Mets sycophants like Martino have been putting out Melvin puff pieces for 2 days now. Given todays Bloom news, it's a done deal.
RE: Brewers  
Eric on Li : 10/25/2018 9:40 am : link
In comment 14148388 DanMetroMan said:
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draft record under Melvin was awful. He's going to be the pick but I'm extremely underwhelmed.


Was it though? His payrolls were bottom of the league so I assume draft spending was similarly low so there's a curve he needs to be graded on since most of his career was in the era where the rules strongly penalized teams that didn't spend $.

I know their current major league roster doesn't have a lot of homegrown production but he did draft Braun and Cain. And Lucroy, who brought them back all the pieces they dealt for Yelich. He also drafted Jeffress and Woodruff, and traded Gomez for Hader and Santana. Stearns obviously deserves a lot of credit for where they are and acquiring/reacquiring Cain/Yelich but he also dealt Khris Davis (who was drafted by Melvin).

Honestly just thinking about the deadline deals he was involved in the past few years makes me feel relatively at ease if he's the selection - Gomez trade agreed to with mets for Wheeler/Flores, gomez trade with Hou, Lucroy deal with indians that would have brought back Mejia, deal with Texas that got Brinson near his peak. Those all would have been good deals.
What is wrong with this team?  
Drewcon40 : 10/25/2018 9:43 am : link
How tone deaf can they be? They really could careless for their fanbase. I can't follow arcarsenal but the team in the Bronx treats their customers so much better than we are. Unfortunately being a fan is a lifetime commitment.

You had the opportunity to change the team's perception, join the current MLB way of running a team, and you bring in this guy who has no track record of success and admitted the game has passed him by 3 years ago.
RE: RE: Brewers  
DanMetroMan : 10/25/2018 9:47 am : link
In comment 14148438 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14148388 DanMetroMan said:


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draft record under Melvin was awful. He's going to be the pick but I'm extremely underwhelmed.



Was it though? His payrolls were bottom of the league so I assume draft spending was similarly low so there's a curve he needs to be graded on since most of his career was in the era where the rules strongly penalized teams that didn't spend $.

I know their current major league roster doesn't have a lot of homegrown production but he did draft Braun and Cain. And Lucroy, who brought them back all the pieces they dealt for Yelich. He also drafted Jeffress and Woodruff, and traded Gomez for Hader and Santana. Stearns obviously deserves a lot of credit for where they are and acquiring/reacquiring Cain/Yelich but he also dealt Khris Davis (who was drafted by Melvin).

Honestly just thinking about the deadline deals he was involved in the past few years makes me feel relatively at ease if he's the selection - Gomez trade agreed to with mets for Wheeler/Flores, gomez trade with Hou, Lucroy deal with indians that would have brought back Mejia, deal with Texas that got Brinson near his peak. Those all would have been good deals.


What does payroll have to do with the draft? Their draft record was awful. Dems the facts. Go back and look at their drafts under Melvin during Sandy's time here and compare

2011
Top 3 picks Jungmann, Lopez, Gagnon. Of players they drafted and signed 1.1 fWAR (Jungmann was #1)

2012 Mitch Hanigar, #2 Brent Suter (no other player has produced even 1.0 fWAR)

2013 0 big leaguers

2014 Brandon Woodruff (1.0 fWAR career)

2015 0 big leaguers (Hanhold has appeared in a game but no actual big leaguers yet)

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