Anthony DiComo @AnthonyDiComo
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Source: Chaim Bloom, Doug Melvin and Brodie Van Wagenen are the Mets' three GM finalists. They will conduct call-back interviews beginning tomorrow. All other candidates are out.
comes in and wins a World Series I don't give a shit what is malpractice or who they did or didn't interview.
If the next 8 years is a repeat of the last 8 or the 8 before then yeah it will be "same old Mets"
but I truly don't give a shit of the GM is old school, old, young, a scout, an analytics guy, etc.
Dave Dombrowski is on the verge of winning another world series. He's 62. He's been "accused" of abandoning analytics and of being a pioneer with analytics, and truth is probably somewhere in between.
wins a world series. I'd be happy if Isiah Thomas became Mets GM and they won a world series. The goal is to make that as likely as possible and hiring a 66 year old who said he was too old for the job 3 years ago isn't encouraging. Don't worry though, I'll be over it by opening day (after some bitching though sorry).
BTW, Red Sox have one of the largest analytics departments in MLB and spend immense resources in that area.
comes in and wins a World Series I don't give a shit what is malpractice or who they did or didn't interview.
If the next 8 years is a repeat of the last 8 or the 8 before then yeah it will be "same old Mets"
but I truly don't give a shit of the GM is old school, old, young, a scout, an analytics guy, etc.
Dave Dombrowski is on the verge of winning another world series. He's 62. He's been "accused" of abandoning analytics and of being a pioneer with analytics, and truth is probably somewhere in between.
Can't compare the Sox and Mets. Payroll alone makes it an invalid comparison. Don't need analytics as much when your payroll is 229 million or 80... yes 80 million more than the Mets
Mets highest paid players (on paper) next year will essentially not see the field. Wright at 17, Cespedes 27, that means Jay Bruce will be the Mets only 8 figure salary player in 2019 (before FA), the Red Sox currently have 7 players making 10 million or more, 6 are on the WS roster (Pedroia is hurt).
wins a world series. I'd be happy if Isiah Thomas became Mets GM and they won a world series. The goal is to make that as likely as possible and hiring a 66 year old who said he was too old for the job 3 years ago isn't encouraging. Don't worry though, I'll be over it by opening day (after some bitching though sorry).
BTW, Red Sox have one of the largest analytics departments in MLB and spend immense resources in that area.
Tell me which analytics model led the Red Sox to shell out massive dollars to Carl Crawford or extend Josh Beckett, or to give massive coin to Hanley Ramirez or Pablo Sandoval, or Rusney Castillo.
They are far less analytics reliant under Dombrowski and analytics helped get Cherington fired (though Theo and Hoyer deserve much of that credit).
Maybe you can explain to me how a massive analytics dept helps Boston and a smaller one hurts the Mets as opposed to a massive payroll vs a smaller one.
Mets highest paid players (on paper) next year will essentially not see the field. Wright at 17, Cespedes 27, that means Jay Bruce will be the Mets only 8 figure salary player in 2019 (before FA), the Red Sox currently have 7 players making 10 million or more, 6 are on the WS roster (Pedroia is hurt).
I agree, the Mets payroll should be higher. The Mets would outdraw the Red Sox if they fielded a competitive team.
And I believe payroll and spending in general helps as much as analytics.
$ spent on payroll, FO personnel, scouting, prospects is the #1 factor
for sustained success. Bar none. If ownership committed to increasing the resources from where they currently are (bottom half of baseball) to where they should be (top 10) that would dramatically increase the odds of the next GM succeeding - regardless of who gets selected.
They are far less analytics reliant under Dombrowski and analytics helped get Cherington fired (though Theo and Hoyer deserve much of that credit).
Maybe you can explain to me how a massive analytics dept helps Boston and a smaller one hurts the Mets as opposed to a massive payroll vs a smaller one.
If the Red Sox don't rely on analytics any more then why do they have one of the biggest analytic departments in baseball? Do they just hire all of these guys and not listen to them? That doesn't make any sense to me.
Of course a massive payroll has an impact. When did I say it didnt? It would be crazy to argue otherwise. If the Wilpons aren't going to spend more, than the only hope is to hire a top GM who can get more with less.
Look at Tampa. 8 winning seasons in the past 12 years despite having a smaller payroll than the Mets and playing in the toughest division in baseball. Two of their losing seasons were only 80-82. The Mets have 7 losing seasons out of the past 9. Why continue along the same path as before?
The Mets have a chance to take one of Tampa's top guys to give us a chance to compete. Why take a step backwards?
Can you please explain to me why you think Doug Melvin is such a great hire that I should be excited about? I'm not sure why you're coming after me so hard unless you're passionate about the guy so please explain.
havn't made their mind up yet on the hire, so I suggest any Met fans get on social media and make their thoughts on Melvin vs Bloom known often and loud. The Wilpons have given in to media/fan pressure before, and it's our only hope at this point IMO.
havn't made their mind up yet on the hire, so I suggest any Met fans get on social media and make their thoughts on Melvin vs Bloom known often and loud. The Wilpons have given in to media/fan pressure before, and it's our only hope at this point IMO.
on you PJ (or anyone else). I badly want the Mets to succeed and am frustrated by how this is going.
I'm clearly too worked up about this and need to dial it down a notch and take a break from posting about it for a while.
No offense taken. I didn't even notice if you were super critical.
There is a former Braves FO guy, who is now a Mets beat guy? or something like that and he credibly questioned the reports on how many analytics people each team employs. He also said it's common for teams to outsource a lot of that ground work.
My point is the Mets are not missing out on players (in my limited opinion) because they don't have the numbers crunched the same way as the Red Sox or Yankees or whoever. It's because of less spend in free agency (domestic and international), international scouting investment, and other functions that cost money but lead more directly to player acquisition.
Even if you absolutely love the decision to hire Doug Melvin, the mere fact Omar Minaya was the "point man" in making this decision is truly absurd. No other team in baseball values Omar Minaya's opinion in that way. None.
The Mets are putting on a Futuras Estrellas Equipment Donation event Nov. 6 at their Dominican academy, which is pretty cool.
Theyll host youth teams for a day, give them equipment and show them around the facilities. Then the kids can watch Mets-Yankees, DR instrux edition.
4:27 PM - 25 Oct 2018
If the next 8 years is a repeat of the last 8 or the 8 before then yeah it will be "same old Mets"
but I truly don't give a shit of the GM is old school, old, young, a scout, an analytics guy, etc.
Dave Dombrowski is on the verge of winning another world series. He's 62. He's been "accused" of abandoning analytics and of being a pioneer with analytics, and truth is probably somewhere in between.
BTW, Red Sox have one of the largest analytics departments in MLB and spend immense resources in that area.
If the next 8 years is a repeat of the last 8 or the 8 before then yeah it will be "same old Mets"
but I truly don't give a shit of the GM is old school, old, young, a scout, an analytics guy, etc.
Dave Dombrowski is on the verge of winning another world series. He's 62. He's been "accused" of abandoning analytics and of being a pioneer with analytics, and truth is probably somewhere in between.
Can't compare the Sox and Mets. Payroll alone makes it an invalid comparison. Don't need analytics as much when your payroll is 229 million or 80... yes 80 million more than the Mets
BTW, Red Sox have one of the largest analytics departments in MLB and spend immense resources in that area.
Tell me which analytics model led the Red Sox to shell out massive dollars to Carl Crawford or extend Josh Beckett, or to give massive coin to Hanley Ramirez or Pablo Sandoval, or Rusney Castillo.
They are far less analytics reliant under Dombrowski and analytics helped get Cherington fired (though Theo and Hoyer deserve much of that credit).
Maybe you can explain to me how a massive analytics dept helps Boston and a smaller one hurts the Mets as opposed to a massive payroll vs a smaller one.
I agree, the Mets payroll should be higher. The Mets would outdraw the Red Sox if they fielded a competitive team.
And I believe payroll and spending in general helps as much as analytics.
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They are far less analytics reliant under Dombrowski and analytics helped get Cherington fired (though Theo and Hoyer deserve much of that credit).
Maybe you can explain to me how a massive analytics dept helps Boston and a smaller one hurts the Mets as opposed to a massive payroll vs a smaller one.
If the Red Sox don't rely on analytics any more then why do they have one of the biggest analytic departments in baseball? Do they just hire all of these guys and not listen to them? That doesn't make any sense to me.
Of course a massive payroll has an impact. When did I say it didnt? It would be crazy to argue otherwise. If the Wilpons aren't going to spend more, than the only hope is to hire a top GM who can get more with less.
Look at Tampa. 8 winning seasons in the past 12 years despite having a smaller payroll than the Mets and playing in the toughest division in baseball. Two of their losing seasons were only 80-82. The Mets have 7 losing seasons out of the past 9. Why continue along the same path as before?
The Mets have a chance to take one of Tampa's top guys to give us a chance to compete. Why take a step backwards?
Can you please explain to me why you think Doug Melvin is such a great hire that I should be excited about? I'm not sure why you're coming after me so hard unless you're passionate about the guy so please explain.
I'm clearly too worked up about this and need to dial it down a notch and take a break from posting about it for a while.
hear ye, HEAR YE
I'm clearly too worked up about this and need to dial it down a notch and take a break from posting about it for a while.
No offense taken. I didn't even notice if you were super critical.
There is a former Braves FO guy, who is now a Mets beat guy? or something like that and he credibly questioned the reports on how many analytics people each team employs. He also said it's common for teams to outsource a lot of that ground work.
My point is the Mets are not missing out on players (in my limited opinion) because they don't have the numbers crunched the same way as the Red Sox or Yankees or whoever. It's because of less spend in free agency (domestic and international), international scouting investment, and other functions that cost money but lead more directly to player acquisition.
Tim Healey
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The Mets are putting on a Futuras Estrellas Equipment Donation event Nov. 6 at their Dominican academy, which is pretty cool.
Theyll host youth teams for a day, give them equipment and show them around the facilities. Then the kids can watch Mets-Yankees, DR instrux edition.
4:27 PM - 25 Oct 2018
Tim Healey
Verified account @timbhealey
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The Mets GM choice is down to Chaim Bloom and Brodie Van Wagenen, a source says, confirming @JonHeymans tweet.
Doug Melvin will not be the Mets next GM.