the same team that Eli went 25-29 against. Francesa is tight with Coughlin - that's his source. Who else in Jax would he know? Coughlin has been on his show tens of dozens of times and was part of his reunion show with russo and on his final show.
the same team that Eli went 25-29 against. Francesa is tight with Coughlin - that's his source. Who else in Jax would he know? Coughlin has been on his show tens of dozens of times and was part of his reunion show with russo and on his final show.
I know a team with a vet QB! I can see the Giants asking for a 1st or the Giants saying Eli isn't available because they still believe we can win.
If it comes out that the Giants turned down passing Eli because they thought they could win this year, it's time to start collecting money for a plane with a banner.
if we ever let him go to Jax and said Lauletta (or Tanney) is our QB rest of the season how would that sit with the fan base?
Whats the difference if we are losing with Eli or losing with Lauletta?
I think most Giants fans would be happy for Eli that he will get another shot before he rides into the sunset. Personally, I don't think Eli has anything left, but I'd like to be wrong about that.
I love Eli more than any athlete ever but if the Giants can get anything of value for him at this point, it's a complete disservice to the organization if they pass on it.
I have no idea what their cap looks like but a team trading for Eli would only take on about $5-6 mil of cap this year.
Its just the pro rated amount of his annual salary
Leaving aside his no trade and picking up a new offense in midseason, could a player with Eli's CAP hit be traded during the season? Would there be a CAP hit to the Giants assuming the receiving team had CAP room for his contract?
Leaving aside his no trade and picking up a new offense in midseason, could a player with Eli's CAP hit be traded during the season? Would there be a CAP hit to the Giants assuming the receiving team had CAP room for his contract?
acquiring team would have about a 6mm cap hit
Giants would be about net neutral cap wise (6mil in accelerated signing bonus - 6 mil in prorated salary)
I wonder if a potential deal would be swayed either way towards Eli Â
I'm just guessing, but Eli had his best success with his first coach.
The question is, does it make sense for the Giants? The season is already over, so yes, depending on the offer.
Does it make sense for the Jaguars? Maybe last offseason. They are injured everywhere (they have lost their first two LTs). They would only trade for Eli if they thought he would still be viable for next year. As a one-year rental, they may think they have too many issues elsewhere to make it useful.
*Get some draft asset in return
*More cap room next year
*Clear the deck for the next QB
*Fans that would be pissed with his release will be ok with this as they are probably also sentimental for TC
According to Spotrac, Jacksonville has $6,191,050 in cap space for this season.
Eli does have a $22m cap hit this year, but his base salary is only $10.5m.
If Eli was to be traded later this week, the Jaguars would only be on the hook for the remainder of his base salary this year.
The cap numbers for Jacksonville would look something like:
2018: $5,906,250
2019: $17,000,000
with no guaranteed money.
The Giants would lose $293,750 in cap room this year, but Eli is then off the books. (We would gain $5,906,250, but the $6,200,000 from his pro rata signing bonus in 2019 becomes dead money).
Purely from a salary cap perspective, it could be an option.
The Jags are not trading for Eli. They have eyes. They can see how bad he is now. The idea of getting a new QB is to add somebody who is better than what you already have.
Maybe Derek Carr makes sense for them. I am not even sure Gruden is done with Carr, but if so, I guess it could make sense.
makes the most sense. If Eli goes anywhere, it will be an ESPN-circus, and that is not what the Jaguars need right now.
I don't know that the answer to the question 'who's better at QB than Blake Bortles' is 'Tyrod Taylor'. The idea is to end up with someone better.
And to be honest, short of Carr (who I'm not sure the Jags could afford), I don't know of any other vets who qualify. Bortles is no great shakes - but Bradford? Taylor? Bridgewater? All of them have pretty serious warts. Eli would be the best of that bunch, even with the question marks surrounding him today.
do it, probably for very little. But as others have noted, Eli is not the veteran QB the Jaguars want. He's completely immobile. Carr is the more likely option. Maybe Taylor. Eli would probably block the trade anyway.
makes the most sense. If Eli goes anywhere, it will be an ESPN-circus, and that is not what the Jaguars need right now.
I am not sure that is the Jaguars thinking. Their season goals were for a SuperBowl Run. The trade for Hyde shows that the Jaguars want to win now. I think the Jaguars are a little desperate anyway.
Eli would bring much needed veteran leadership to the team and he does have playoff experience.
If the Jaguars do trade for a QB, ut would be for a starter, so a media circus is likely anyway. At least if it is Eli, they could sell the Coughlin/Manning line.
Of course the Giants aren't likely to give Eli away, we somehow aren't completely out of the division yet, plus Eli has his no-trade clause so it would have to be somewhere Eli wants to be.
Of course, Houston does have good ends, and that is Bortles we're talking about.
I wonder if Foles becomes their target.
If it comes out that the Giants turned down passing Eli because they thought they could win this year, it's time to start collecting money for a plane with a banner.
But I could see Mara declining it because of some kind of "Eli's Giants career shouldn't end that way" mindset.
solves PR problem with Eli and starts the transition
1. Who cares?
2. If you're going to suck, might as well REALLY suck for a top draft pick.
Whats the difference if we are losing with Eli or losing with Lauletta?
I think most Giants fans would be happy for Eli that he will get another shot before he rides into the sunset. Personally, I don't think Eli has anything left, but I'd like to be wrong about that.
Seriously though, I can't see trading mid year for a QB.
Last time it was done was Carson Palmer to the Raiders.
Would sit fine with me.
I have no idea what their cap looks like but a team trading for Eli would only take on about $5-6 mil of cap this year.
Its just the pro rated amount of his annual salary
acquiring team would have about a 6mm cap hit
Giants would be about net neutral cap wise (6mil in accelerated signing bonus - 6 mil in prorated salary)
The question is, does it make sense for the Giants? The season is already over, so yes, depending on the offer.
Does it make sense for the Jaguars? Maybe last offseason. They are injured everywhere (they have lost their first two LTs). They would only trade for Eli if they thought he would still be viable for next year. As a one-year rental, they may think they have too many issues elsewhere to make it useful.
*Get some draft asset in return
*More cap room next year
*Clear the deck for the next QB
*Fans that would be pissed with his release will be ok with this as they are probably also sentimental for TC
I don't even think you could get a 7th rounder in return for him.
That’s the spirit!!!
and if we trade ELi we gain 10 million in cap space.
Not sure how accurate that is.
According to Spotrac, Jacksonville has $6,191,050 in cap space for this season.
Eli does have a $22m cap hit this year, but his base salary is only $10.5m.
If Eli was to be traded later this week, the Jaguars would only be on the hook for the remainder of his base salary this year.
The cap numbers for Jacksonville would look something like:
2018: $5,906,250
2019: $17,000,000
with no guaranteed money.
The Giants would lose $293,750 in cap room this year, but Eli is then off the books. (We would gain $5,906,250, but the $6,200,000 from his pro rata signing bonus in 2019 becomes dead money).
Purely from a salary cap perspective, it could be an option.
Maybe Derek Carr makes sense for them. I am not even sure Gruden is done with Carr, but if so, I guess it could make sense.
I don't know that the answer to the question 'who's better at QB than Blake Bortles' is 'Tyrod Taylor'. The idea is to end up with someone better.
And to be honest, short of Carr (who I'm not sure the Jags could afford), I don't know of any other vets who qualify. Bortles is no great shakes - but Bradford? Taylor? Bridgewater? All of them have pretty serious warts. Eli would be the best of that bunch, even with the question marks surrounding him today.
I am not sure that is the Jaguars thinking. Their season goals were for a SuperBowl Run. The trade for Hyde shows that the Jaguars want to win now. I think the Jaguars are a little desperate anyway.
Eli would bring much needed veteran leadership to the team and he does have playoff experience.
If the Jaguars do trade for a QB, ut would be for a starter, so a media circus is likely anyway. At least if it is Eli, they could sell the Coughlin/Manning line.
Of course the Giants aren't likely to give Eli away, we somehow aren't completely out of the division yet, plus Eli has his no-trade clause so it would have to be somewhere Eli wants to be.
Now I can see them chasing Bridgewater. You get a few games to see how he's healed up, with a promise of a starter in the coming years.
Saints get their pick back (maybe even higher) for him too.