then should the Giants consider putting OBJ on the block and see what types of deals come in. Of course IMO only way Giants should consider is If a team wows them with a package of two 1st rounders and then some.
but do you understand how the cap works or the cap ramifications of trading OBJ??? Also, we just signed him to a massive deal a few months ago, do you really think we are going to trade him because he did an interview with espn and didn't have nice things to say about eli???
Also Widmerseyebrow nails the $20 dollar question .
Could we get bck a #2 pick for him if so I am all for it
no knock on Shepard he is a good player and seemingly pretty good person he is young and just beginning to hit his stride
Who might be a taker at this point !
It seems like in NY (regardless of team or sport) unless you're a top 5 talent at your position and agree to play for the vet minimum, you should automatically be thrown on the trade block for whatever we can get to replace your trash ass.
Shep has been been decently productive, has developed good chemistry with Eli, and I think people forget how often in the NFL we see WRs drafted within the first 3 rounds and ultimately amount to NOTHING. In fact, a great example right in front of our eyes: Cody Latimer was a 2nd round pick and had done nothing his entire career. Coincidentally, he's also relevant to the 2nd part of my argument: after Shep, who's our next WR? Latimer. You trade Shep and we instantly have a glaring need.
At best I'd say we get a 3rd rounder. You're willing to bet we'll be able to either draft a player or sign a player at a lower cost who will instantly serve as our WR2? Do you plan on using one of our 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round picks to take a shot at it? Remember, we already don't have a 3rd round pick. I don't want to have to spend a premium draft pick on a WR in 2019 when we have one of the worst OLs in the league and need a future franchise QB.
in a terrible situation. OL, terrible. QB play, terrible. What are you expecting from SS? He's going to have a long career as a #2. I wouldn't trade him considering his value.
We couldn't get a 6th round pick for Shepard. He has no value. Let's be honest. He's a borderline JAG.
DK killing it with the truth today.
Shepard is only valuable to the Giants. Pretty much every team has a WR on their roster just like him. He’s done virtually nothing in the league so far, besides catch some routine 8 yard passes.
Sterling Shepard is mind-boggingly overrated by Giant fans. Sorry for the unpopular take. But IMO, it's the truth. He's an ok player who occasionally makes a play.
No, we are not trading OBJ, unless we have interest in putting ourselves in the worst cap hell any NFL team has ever seen (exaggerating, obviously).
Just wanted to point out: Shep last year was on pace for almost 100 catches for over 1000 yards if he'd played all 16, and he'll likely have about 80 catches for 1000 yards this year if he stays healthy. If I'm not mistaken, doesn't he still have 2 years left on his rookie deal? Even if it's 1 year, he was a solid 2nd round pick and I don't understand the persistent suggesting on this board to trade him.
Sterling Shepard is mind-boggingly overrated by Giant fans. Sorry for the unpopular take. But IMO, it's the truth. He's an ok player who occasionally makes a play.
LOL, another hot take! mind boggingly overrated? I haven't heard anyone say he's a star or anything. Keep fighting the good fight??
Sterling Shepard is mind-boggingly overrated by Giant fans. Sorry for the unpopular take. But IMO, it's the truth. He's an ok player who occasionally makes a play.
LOL, another hot take! mind boggingly overrated? I haven't heard anyone say he's a star or anything. Keep fighting the good fight??
kmed, easy bud. You're a pretty strong source of piss poor takes. I'm not trying to get into a pissing match. No interest in digging in any further than this. I'm just responding to people saying they'd trade him for a 2nd rd pick.
Go look at the stats. His last 16 starts (basically a full season unto itself): 90 catches, 1065 yds.
So every team has someone just like him huh? OK, name the exact player you're going to get next year to replace him with for less $. I'll wait...
I think he's overrated too, but definitely worth more than "nothing" to a team in need of a starting receiver. That's what he is: a guy good enough to start on a bad team that needs to be paired with a great #1.
With a year left on his rookie deal, he is not worth resigning. Of the #2 receivers we've had in years past when the team was contending, where would you rank Shepherd? Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Nicks, etc. I struggle to find one guy I'd take Shepherd over.
Better to get something for him if possible rather than let him walk (as we should if it comes to it) for nothing.
We couldn't get a 6th round pick for Shepard. He has no value. Let's be honest. He's a borderline JAG.
DK killing it with the truth today.
Shepard is only valuable to the Giants. Pretty much every team has a WR on their roster just like him. He’s done virtually nothing in the league so far, besides catch some routine 8 yard passes.
LMAO shep has done nothing 155 catches and 12 TDs is nothing?
Hahahaha....that's awesome....."banana head" = OBJ. Cause he's black. And cause monkey's like bananas. Hahahahahahahaha. That was awesome. Banana head. Love it.
Hahahaha....that's awesome....."banana head" = OBJ. Cause he's black. And cause monkey's like bananas. Hahahahahahahaha. That was awesome. Banana head. Love it.
How about because his hair is..yellow..and bananas are..
Sterling Shepard is mind-boggingly overrated by Giant fans. Sorry for the unpopular take. But IMO, it's the truth. He's an ok player who occasionally makes a play.
correct... He's a nice NFL 2.5-3...better than a JAG. In the Present Mix. I'd rather have a Mo Sanu type as my 2/3.... a physical counterpart to Odell. I'd like to see what this mix looks like with EE flexing to slot---that might add to Sheps impact, if not his sheer numbers.
is a damn good player. Beckham can be an asshole but he's our asshole and he's a great football player. You don't pay him then trade him. You build around him and Barkley. Mainly with an upgraded line and a new QB.
I think they're redundant. You decide now which one that you are likely to extend and move the other. We're not giving both of these guys 2nd contracts after paying OBJ and taking/paying Barkley 2nd pick.
I lean Engram. He's captive for 2-3 years on his rookie deal and it's a harder skillset to replace. You can get 70-80% of Shep with the right high floor late round pick.
Thanks Keith, I love you too <3
Let's stop talking about it
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"What could we get for Sterling Shepherd?"
a 6th rounder
Any draft pick should be considered. His rookie contract is almost up and he's an OK starter. Very replaceable.
Could we get bck a #2 pick for him if so I am all for it
no knock on Shepard he is a good player and seemingly pretty good person he is young and just beginning to hit his stride
Who might be a taker at this point !
In comment 14139459 Danny Kanell said:
Let's stop talking about it
Shep has been been decently productive, has developed good chemistry with Eli, and I think people forget how often in the NFL we see WRs drafted within the first 3 rounds and ultimately amount to NOTHING. In fact, a great example right in front of our eyes: Cody Latimer was a 2nd round pick and had done nothing his entire career. Coincidentally, he's also relevant to the 2nd part of my argument: after Shep, who's our next WR? Latimer. You trade Shep and we instantly have a glaring need.
At best I'd say we get a 3rd rounder. You're willing to bet we'll be able to either draft a player or sign a player at a lower cost who will instantly serve as our WR2? Do you plan on using one of our 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round picks to take a shot at it? Remember, we already don't have a 3rd round pick. I don't want to have to spend a premium draft pick on a WR in 2019 when we have one of the worst OLs in the league and need a future franchise QB.
Let's stop talking about it
This.
He’s not tradeable until 2020/2021 at the earliest, and we’d still have to take a cap hit even then.
This is a nonsense take. The BBI warehouse is filled to capacity with these. No more please.
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We couldn't get a 6th round pick for Shepard. He has no value. Let's be honest. He's a borderline JAG.
This is a nonsense take. The BBI warehouse is filled to capacity with these. No more please.
Yep, just put it on the pile!
DK killing it with the truth today.
Shepard is only valuable to the Giants. Pretty much every team has a WR on their roster just like him. He’s done virtually nothing in the league so far, besides catch some routine 8 yard passes.
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We couldn't get a 6th round pick for Shepard. He has no value. Let's be honest. He's a borderline JAG.
This is a nonsense take. The BBI warehouse is filled to capacity with these. No more please.
Let's not pretend you haven't contributed to the pile of nonsense takes either though. I have my share as well.
Just wanted to point out: Shep last year was on pace for almost 100 catches for over 1000 yards if he'd played all 16, and he'll likely have about 80 catches for 1000 yards this year if he stays healthy. If I'm not mistaken, doesn't he still have 2 years left on his rookie deal? Even if it's 1 year, he was a solid 2nd round pick and I don't understand the persistent suggesting on this board to trade him.
LOL, another hot take! mind boggingly overrated? I haven't heard anyone say he's a star or anything. Keep fighting the good fight??
His career game average:
5 Catches. 55 yards. .4 TD's
He's not overly fast. Not overly elusive. Not the greatest of hands.
He's an ok player. Who's giving up more than a 6th round pick for an OK slot receiver with 1 year left on his rookie deal?
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Sterling Shepard is mind-boggingly overrated by Giant fans. Sorry for the unpopular take. But IMO, it's the truth. He's an ok player who occasionally makes a play.
LOL, another hot take! mind boggingly overrated? I haven't heard anyone say he's a star or anything. Keep fighting the good fight??
kmed, easy bud. You're a pretty strong source of piss poor takes. I'm not trying to get into a pissing match. No interest in digging in any further than this. I'm just responding to people saying they'd trade him for a 2nd rd pick.
Not in the least. Have a drink. You seem like you need one.
So every team has someone just like him huh? OK, name the exact player you're going to get next year to replace him with for less $. I'll wait...
His career game average:
5 Catches. 55 yards. .4 TD's
He's not overly fast. Not overly elusive. Not the greatest of hands.
He's an ok player. Who's giving up more than a 6th round pick for an OK slot receiver with 1 year left on his rookie deal?
Reread what I said. LAST YEAR he was on pace to have close to 100 catches (about 94). THIS YEAR he is on pace for 83 catches.
So every team has someone just like him huh? OK, name the exact player you're going to get next year to replace him with for less $. I'll wait...
I think he's overrated too, but definitely worth more than "nothing" to a team in need of a starting receiver. That's what he is: a guy good enough to start on a bad team that needs to be paired with a great #1.
With a year left on his rookie deal, he is not worth resigning. Of the #2 receivers we've had in years past when the team was contending, where would you rank Shepherd? Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Nicks, etc. I struggle to find one guy I'd take Shepherd over.
Better to get something for him if possible rather than let him walk (as we should if it comes to it) for nothing.
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We couldn't get a 6th round pick for Shepard. He has no value. Let's be honest. He's a borderline JAG.
DK killing it with the truth today.
Shepard is only valuable to the Giants. Pretty much every team has a WR on their roster just like him. He’s done virtually nothing in the league so far, besides catch some routine 8 yard passes.
LMAO shep has done nothing 155 catches and 12 TDs is nothing?
Hahahaha....that's awesome....."banana head" = OBJ. Cause he's black. And cause monkey's like bananas. Hahahahahahahaha. That was awesome. Banana head. Love it.
Not even JAG, a borderline JAG? Quite the talent evaluator.
So every team has someone just like him huh? OK, name the exact player you're going to get next year to replace him with for less $. I'll wait...
Yes, because stats always tell the truth about how a player performs. Eli has great stats this year, right? So....yeah.
Shepard does nothing more than what an average WR around the league can do. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the truth.
His career game average:
5 Catches. 55 yards. .4 TD's
He's not overly fast. Not overly elusive. Not the greatest of hands.
He's an ok player. Who's giving up more than a 6th round pick for an OK slot receiver with 1 year left on his rookie deal?
Agree. He’s been ok for the Giants but he’s not really a mismatch advantage week to week. He’s been pretty disappointing all things considered.
For a guy who has struggled for 2+ years.
Top of the league in drops since he's been in the league.
Not in the same shape as he was when he entered the NFL.
And just had a concussion last week?
This is a STEAL for the Raiders.
How about because his hair is..yellow..and bananas are..
You see where I'm going with this
correct... He's a nice NFL 2.5-3...better than a JAG. In the Present Mix. I'd rather have a Mo Sanu type as my 2/3.... a physical counterpart to Odell. I'd like to see what this mix looks like with EE flexing to slot---that might add to Sheps impact, if not his sheer numbers.