“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
It was John McKay....BTW...I thoght you said goddnight after 7-0....not that I would have blamed you, I just like the torture
Mckay, McVeigh ... Tomatoe, Tamato as a Giants fan did you really think I was going to turn the game off and go to sleep?
How dare you .... : )
RE: OBJ still making nice plays and getting yards, Â
however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
My recollection is that the Falcons desperately wanted Engram, and tried to trade up with the Giants to get him, but Reese refused.
I don’t recall that but it goes without saying that Engram is another Athlete more than Football player. Par for the course
however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
What's your point?
Point is he’s not getting those big game changing plays and scoring TDs
is not giving us a chance to win. It's more than just Eli, but not making a change at this point seems crazy. We're 1-6 and our offense is a joke.
I’m shocked at how people either refuse or just can’t see it. Eli is worthless now. He literally brings nothing to the table anymore. He completes about 7-10 nice passes a game. Leaves about 7-10 passes or plays on the field every game. Doesn’t beat 90% of any and all pressure types and now, this latest version (17-18) almost refuses to take any shots when their are plays to be made. Eli now looks not only shellshocked but neutered as well.
Yes the ol sucks. So does Eli now. We need to accept it. Hopefully the giants will.
half the point of drafting a guy is getting a starting QB at bargain rates. You'd have to pay Carr or Bridgewater or Mariota or whomever you're project is.
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
My recollection is that the Falcons desperately wanted Engram, and tried to trade up with the Giants to get him, but Reese refused.
I don’t recall that but it goes without saying that Engram is another Athlete more than Football player. Par for the course
This is what I found:
"The Giants opted to select Evan Engram over David Njoku, doing so despite the Miami product receiving a bit more pre-draft hype, and that pick was viewed by some as a reach. But Vacchiano notes buzz swirled about a team trying to trade up in front of the Giants to select Engram, identifying the Bills and Falcons as interested suitors. The Browns traded back into the first round to take Njoku, so they may have been in on this pursuit as well. Njoku was scheduled to visit the Giants earlier this month, but the team cancelled the meeting.
A jump in front of the Buccaneers or Broncos for the right to take O.J. Howard, whom the Giants “loved,” or Bolles would have cost the team a third-round pick, Vacchiano reports. The Giants stood tight at 23, viewing Engram and third-round pick Davis Webb as a better package than either Howard or Bolles."
the problem with the pick is that we desperately need OL help. The CW was it was a terrible year for OT but Robinson and Ramczyk were there and the need was so great that we should have taken one or the other even if we had only a 2nd round grades on them. Eff the value charts - you're building a team and the draft is one of the few ways to upgrade positions of need.
So we have many issues to address on offense when you have
a back like Barkley you can now build around . Acid Test Can't cut Soldier until you replace him period .
Almost have to cluster draft the O-line need cap space and picks I would look at the Best Center in the draft and A LT high round 1-2 .Unless the QB is here .Even then you can't throw a rookie behind this mess .
If they were smart they would move on from a few players
and get some picks . people mentioned Shepard Keep Shepard and move on from Engram . Get a couple of TE's with Size
that can block .
Defense in dire need of a Free Safety and linebackers .
Look at a guy thats like 6'3" 220-230 with speed .A tackling machine . Another CB with speed .
I don''t know about most of you coach Shurmur seems unsure of himself had problems most of the season with the clock
and the red-zone is like the dead zone . first down on the two yard line Barkley gets 3 touches then settle for
the field goal but I see little imagination used in this game should have been won no excuse .
for it . Anyways it's grin and bear it till free agency what a bitch of a season it's like groundhog day .
RE: RE: RE: OBJ still making nice plays and getting yards, Â
however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
What's your point?
Point is he’s not getting those big game changing plays and scoring TDs
Believe it or not he ca't out run everybody. How about asking why the QB can't seem to score in the Red Zone.
The schedule the rest of the way isn’t as daunting Â
I don’t expect to finish 1-15. But 1-6 sunk us rendering the rest of the season meaningless. Hopefully Mara realizes the franchise is far removed from being respectable and stops advocating for short term fixes and band aids. This whole thing stinks. From him down.
I don’t expect to finish 1-15. But 1-6 sunk us rendering the rest of the season meaningless. Hopefully Mara realizes the franchise is far removed from being respectable and stops advocating for short term fixes and band aids. This whole thing stinks. From him down.
Falcon team has been underachieving. They have a good offense. Giants did a pretty decent job for most of the game.
The weaknesses continue to hurt them. OLine and Free Safety play. Thought the OLine settled down a bit in the second half.
End of game mind freezes - puzzling. First, QB sneak wuold have been OK. Think Eli wanted to do it quickly Hernandez on the second sneak was 5 yeard upfield. He's going to be very good. I will be interested in hearing about Wheeler's development. If Solder is going to continue to struggle - could they switch him and Wheeler, a more natural LT.
Blow it up and rebuild is idiotic in my opinion. Team has a lot of talent but the problems, especially the OLine continue. I think Eli has a year or two left. Immobile or not, 4 sacks in 1st half, not to mention the hurries - tough to win that way.
Giants are competung, but they continue to make mistakes in close games and they aren't good enough to overcome them.
Remember what I said at the beginning of the year? Â
i’m sorry i watched. so what they threw a ton? they were deplorable in red zone. as papa said an insurmountable 7 point lead. how many yards were in last 7 minutes?
nyg has to sell hope. i am willing to watch a 3-13 rebuild done right. i don’t know how i would feel watching another season in a no hope for future qb decision or a half measures tear down we have gotten for some time.
i agree with you on skill position talent clearly they have some. i disagree with your assesssment of manning. he was a contributor to this loss far from most guilty though. he’s been worse than last night several times this year.
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
It was John McKay....BTW...I thoght you said goddnight after 7-0....not that I would have blamed you, I just like the torture
Mckay, McVeigh ... Tomatoe, Tamato as a Giants fan did you really think I was going to turn the game off and go to sleep?
How dare you .... : )
What's your point?
He's right.
His outdated glasses frames are enraging
It's the third separate time this year off the top of my head that mismanagement cost us dearly.
Regardless of the mismanagement of the game. How many games are we winning when the QB throws 1 TD per game?
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Routes.
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
My recollection is that the Falcons desperately wanted Engram, and tried to trade up with the Giants to get him, but Reese refused.
I don’t recall that but it goes without saying that Engram is another Athlete more than Football player. Par for the course
Because people (players) are afraid of that fucking gangster .. (Belichick).
Make no mistake about it ..... 6'5" 325 pounders are afraid of that fucking midget. That what makes a good head coach.
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however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
What's your point?
Point is he’s not getting those big game changing plays and scoring TDs
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is not giving us a chance to win. It's more than just Eli, but not making a change at this point seems crazy. We're 1-6 and our offense is a joke.
He threw for 400 yards.
You can’t posdibly look at this game and say he played well.
A lot of plays left out there.
Wow he is saying as much
Not with this GM. You'd think this season would humble some of his arrogance, but I doubt it.
I think so little of the Giants FO, I wouldn't be surprised if they traded the #1 overall pick for Derek Carr.
Hell, I'm surprised he got 94 after running behind that sorry sack of losers called an Offensive Line.
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would it shock anyone to see the Giants secure the #1 pick and then proceed to select some obscure RG from a lesser program or some equivalent?
I think so little of the Giants FO, I wouldn't be surprised if they traded the #1 overall pick for Derek Carr.
FOH. Derek Carr is not worth the #1 overall pick. Not in any universe.
Sounds like a typical Reese brag about how fucking smart he was to draft somebody and how fucking smart he was for not trading down.
I’m shocked at how people either refuse or just can’t see it. Eli is worthless now. He literally brings nothing to the table anymore. He completes about 7-10 nice passes a game. Leaves about 7-10 passes or plays on the field every game. Doesn’t beat 90% of any and all pressure types and now, this latest version (17-18) almost refuses to take any shots when their are plays to be made. Eli now looks not only shellshocked but neutered as well.
Yes the ol sucks. So does Eli now. We need to accept it. Hopefully the giants will.
Holding is what he does best
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In comment 14141989 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Routes.
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
My recollection is that the Falcons desperately wanted Engram, and tried to trade up with the Giants to get him, but Reese refused.
I don’t recall that but it goes without saying that Engram is another Athlete more than Football player. Par for the course
This is what I found:
"The Giants opted to select Evan Engram over David Njoku, doing so despite the Miami product receiving a bit more pre-draft hype, and that pick was viewed by some as a reach. But Vacchiano notes buzz swirled about a team trying to trade up in front of the Giants to select Engram, identifying the Bills and Falcons as interested suitors. The Browns traded back into the first round to take Njoku, so they may have been in on this pursuit as well. Njoku was scheduled to visit the Giants earlier this month, but the team cancelled the meeting.
A jump in front of the Buccaneers or Broncos for the right to take O.J. Howard, whom the Giants “loved,” or Bolles would have cost the team a third-round pick, Vacchiano reports. The Giants stood tight at 23, viewing Engram and third-round pick Davis Webb as a better package than either Howard or Bolles."
Worst OL in the 52 years I’m watching. No other OL is close to this bad.
Worst OL in the 52 years I’m watching. No other OL is close to this bad.
a back like Barkley you can now build around . Acid Test Can't cut Soldier until you replace him period .
Almost have to cluster draft the O-line need cap space and picks I would look at the Best Center in the draft and A LT high round 1-2 .Unless the QB is here .Even then you can't throw a rookie behind this mess .
If they were smart they would move on from a few players
and get some picks . people mentioned Shepard Keep Shepard and move on from Engram . Get a couple of TE's with Size
that can block .
Defense in dire need of a Free Safety and linebackers .
Look at a guy thats like 6'3" 220-230 with speed .A tackling machine . Another CB with speed .
I don''t know about most of you coach Shurmur seems unsure of himself had problems most of the season with the clock
and the red-zone is like the dead zone . first down on the two yard line Barkley gets 3 touches then settle for
the field goal but I see little imagination used in this game should have been won no excuse .
for it . Anyways it's grin and bear it till free agency what a bitch of a season it's like groundhog day .
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however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
What's your point?
Point is he’s not getting those big game changing plays and scoring TDs
Believe it or not he ca't out run everybody. How about asking why the QB can't seem to score in the Red Zone.
Meh... We're the Knicks
Combining the two is a major problem.
Falcon team has been underachieving. They have a good offense. Giants did a pretty decent job for most of the game.
The weaknesses continue to hurt them. OLine and Free Safety play. Thought the OLine settled down a bit in the second half.
End of game mind freezes - puzzling. First, QB sneak wuold have been OK. Think Eli wanted to do it quickly Hernandez on the second sneak was 5 yeard upfield. He's going to be very good. I will be interested in hearing about Wheeler's development. If Solder is going to continue to struggle - could they switch him and Wheeler, a more natural LT.
Blow it up and rebuild is idiotic in my opinion. Team has a lot of talent but the problems, especially the OLine continue. I think Eli has a year or two left. Immobile or not, 4 sacks in 1st half, not to mention the hurries - tough to win that way.
Giants are competung, but they continue to make mistakes in close games and they aren't good enough to overcome them.
Offensive Line Coach Hal Hunter
Look up his OL's fantastic stats everywhere he's coached. That was the reason he was unemployed last year...
Shit coaches make for shit units.
Offensive Line Coach Hal Hunter
Look up his OL's fantastic stats everywhere he's coached. That was the reason he was unemployed last year...
Shit coaches make for shit units.
I think shit players is more of the culprit.
Guy was bad in his previous job. Why would we think he would be better here?
This team has a terrible offense unit and average at best d. terrible specials.
it’s not a good team and is a rebuild which may not take wins but will need to take the rest of this year and next with a new qb.
if eli plays next year on this team there will be a mutiny. many will stop watching.
They should have had TD instead of FG but OBJ didn't run to right spot.
If anybody is that big of a fucking baby to stop watching because Eli returns - they shouldn't be watching in the 1st place.
He had 399 yards, and looked better when he had the protection. He's not the future but has some years left.
nyg has to sell hope. i am willing to watch a 3-13 rebuild done right. i don’t know how i would feel watching another season in a no hope for future qb decision or a half measures tear down we have gotten for some time.