yet, but we might as well be. We’re toast! Finished. I can’t imagine this team winning any more games this year! I couldn’t imagine a 1-15 season, but it could be actually happen. Worse the last year.....we just can’t get out of our own way!
just broken from ownership on down. and if anyone feels an iota of confidence in having this team run by a Gettleman/Schurmur combo for years to come, i invite you to give a single damn good reason as to how you got there.
Shurmur should be embarrassed. More than enough talent to win more than 2-4 games this year.
This is the best draft they’ve had in about a decade. But the FA Guys and the Ogletree trade look like shit. Shumur will get another year but the rot is deeeep
If he called the 2 sneaks, I want him to own it. If it was Eli, I want him to call out Eli. I also want Eli benched...and this is coming from one of his biggest proponents (and someone who still doesn't think he is done). It just serves no purpose to keep him starting.
“We can’t win at home and we can’t win on the road. What we need is a neutral site.”
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
People will focus on the end of the fourth quarter, Â
Shurmur is such a weird dude. He goes analytics on the 2 point conversions but can't kill the clock to end a half? He doesn't take points in a close game in the first half when his offense is incapable of scoring?
You have to balance your abilities, the math, and what you're looking to learn from your team.
So many holes they need to sell assets for picks before this deadline. They will have to go full rebuild. We are entering a period of at least 3 more years of mediocracy if the rebuild is done well, but I have no faith in gettleman so wouldn’t be surprised if it takes 5 more years. Mara is to blame for all of this.
“We can’t win at home and we can’t win on the road. What we need is a neutral site.”
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
He should've been able to hold onto that 2 point conversion
“We can’t win at home and we can’t win on the road. What we need is a neutral site.”
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
is bad, including the OL, Eli, Jenkins, WRs running the wrong routes, and poor ST.
This game was pretty much like every other one this year and last. Our OL is so bad that the other team can get pressure with just four or five, and drop everyone else back into coverage. We also can't run the ball.
Solder is awful. I'd seriously consider cutting him next year regardless of the cap hit. We aren't going to be competitive next year anyway. Might as well eat all the bad contracts all at once, and get them off the cap at the same time.
We have a generational RB and WR, and can't move the ball.
Eli's total lack of mobility magnifies the bad OL play. He's also skittish, and is quick to check down even when there is no pressure. He's done. I'd like to see Lauletta after the bye.
“We can’t win at home and we can’t win on the road. What we need is a neutral site.”
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
It was John McKay....BTW...I thoght you said goddnight after 7-0....not that I would have blamed you, I just like the torture
against a bad team, NYG adds two garbage tds. dysfunctional red zone execution. Horrendous play calling. No commit to Run.
COACH was a joke tonight.
OLine sucks.
if Eli called those sneaks shame on him. It does not really matter but just illustrates what a dumb and bad team this is. He was good at stat run ups between the twenties but did not play well in red zone.
Written pointed all game the receivers mistakes running Â
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
OBJ came off the field with under 5:00 in the 4th. "I know, you're open!" Eli is gonna sit, there's not much else left! At least Lauletta showed mobility in preseason! Cheeses, I don't even get pissed anymore, just numbing!
His playcalling leaves a lot to be desired. He’s also made a lot of panic decisions that don’t make a lot of sense — going for 2, the 4th down calls in their own territory in Dallas, etc.
Just disappointed...I don’t see him out scheming anyone.
I just don't expect Odell to get large YAC this season. My expectations have gone from guaranteed YAC to pleasant surprise. Nearly the opposite expectation I have for Barkley.
That being said - our OL sucks. Barkley does everything on his own and Eli is going to get killed this year.
Interesting stat lines - very similar between both teams.
Maybe the moron owner will sanction an actual rebuild this time Â
It is what is needed. A total overhaul of the roster and start from scratch. At least you can stomach a young team with potential losing. But a team like is just a waste of time and money.
but I can't for the life of me understand why he'd go for 2 there.
I fully expected to see Rosas standing on crutches at that point.
Trying to set up a win by dropping the lead to 6 points. If the GOD damn refs would have called the holding that took place as the defender clearly held Odels arm, it would have happened.
but I can't for the life of me understand why he'd go for 2 there.
I fully expected to see Rosas standing on crutches at that point.
Its the right move - just game out the scenarios when you're at work tomorrow. It substantially increases win probability.
In a vacuum, statistically - I'd say yes.
Given that the Giants are woefully inept in both short yardage and red zone situations - I'd say the analytics should drive you to kick the PAT and hope for a stop and a long scoring play.
I'm as big a fan of analytics as anyone, but I think they need to be driven by a team's strengths and weaknesses, not just league trends. The only way I saw it working in our case was if the D could conceivably get two stops, and we could somehow manage two FGs to tie it up. There wasn't enough time for that, and the D wasn't going to hold up regardless.
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is not giving us a chance to win. It's more than just Eli, but not making a change at this point seems crazy. We're 1-6 and our offense is a joke.
He threw for 400 yards.
So what? Stats are only one part of it, and often a meaningless part. It wasn't nearly good enough.
If you're happy with the product the Giants offense put out because they threw for 400 against a shit D with a lead then it's a lost cause.
Um Brady and Belichick. And they let him walk because he’s cooked. Gentlemen Missed on Norwell and panicked. Solder is done and they are beyond fucked w that contract
RE: Written pointed all game the receivers mistakes running Â
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
My recollection is that the Falcons desperately wanted Engram, and tried to trade up with the Giants to get him, but Reese refused.
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
It was John McKay....BTW...I thoght you said goddnight after 7-0....not that I would have blamed you, I just like the torture
Mckay, McVeigh ... Tomatoe, Tamato as a Giants fan did you really think I was going to turn the game off and go to sleep?
How dare you .... : )
RE: OBJ still making nice plays and getting yards, Â
however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
My recollection is that the Falcons desperately wanted Engram, and tried to trade up with the Giants to get him, but Reese refused.
I don’t recall that but it goes without saying that Engram is another Athlete more than Football player. Par for the course
however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
What's your point?
Point is he’s not getting those big game changing plays and scoring TDs
is not giving us a chance to win. It's more than just Eli, but not making a change at this point seems crazy. We're 1-6 and our offense is a joke.
I’m shocked at how people either refuse or just can’t see it. Eli is worthless now. He literally brings nothing to the table anymore. He completes about 7-10 nice passes a game. Leaves about 7-10 passes or plays on the field every game. Doesn’t beat 90% of any and all pressure types and now, this latest version (17-18) almost refuses to take any shots when their are plays to be made. Eli now looks not only shellshocked but neutered as well.
Yes the ol sucks. So does Eli now. We need to accept it. Hopefully the giants will.
half the point of drafting a guy is getting a starting QB at bargain rates. You'd have to pay Carr or Bridgewater or Mariota or whomever you're project is.
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
My recollection is that the Falcons desperately wanted Engram, and tried to trade up with the Giants to get him, but Reese refused.
I don’t recall that but it goes without saying that Engram is another Athlete more than Football player. Par for the course
This is what I found:
"The Giants opted to select Evan Engram over David Njoku, doing so despite the Miami product receiving a bit more pre-draft hype, and that pick was viewed by some as a reach. But Vacchiano notes buzz swirled about a team trying to trade up in front of the Giants to select Engram, identifying the Bills and Falcons as interested suitors. The Browns traded back into the first round to take Njoku, so they may have been in on this pursuit as well. Njoku was scheduled to visit the Giants earlier this month, but the team cancelled the meeting.
A jump in front of the Buccaneers or Broncos for the right to take O.J. Howard, whom the Giants “loved,” or Bolles would have cost the team a third-round pick, Vacchiano reports. The Giants stood tight at 23, viewing Engram and third-round pick Davis Webb as a better package than either Howard or Bolles."
the problem with the pick is that we desperately need OL help. The CW was it was a terrible year for OT but Robinson and Ramczyk were there and the need was so great that we should have taken one or the other even if we had only a 2nd round grades on them. Eff the value charts - you're building a team and the draft is one of the few ways to upgrade positions of need.
So we have many issues to address on offense when you have
a back like Barkley you can now build around . Acid Test Can't cut Soldier until you replace him period .
Almost have to cluster draft the O-line need cap space and picks I would look at the Best Center in the draft and A LT high round 1-2 .Unless the QB is here .Even then you can't throw a rookie behind this mess .
If they were smart they would move on from a few players
and get some picks . people mentioned Shepard Keep Shepard and move on from Engram . Get a couple of TE's with Size
that can block .
Defense in dire need of a Free Safety and linebackers .
Look at a guy thats like 6'3" 220-230 with speed .A tackling machine . Another CB with speed .
I don''t know about most of you coach Shurmur seems unsure of himself had problems most of the season with the clock
and the red-zone is like the dead zone . first down on the two yard line Barkley gets 3 touches then settle for
the field goal but I see little imagination used in this game should have been won no excuse .
for it . Anyways it's grin and bear it till free agency what a bitch of a season it's like groundhog day .
RE: RE: RE: OBJ still making nice plays and getting yards, Â
however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
What's your point?
Point is he’s not getting those big game changing plays and scoring TDs
Believe it or not he ca't out run everybody. How about asking why the QB can't seem to score in the Red Zone.
The schedule the rest of the way isn’t as daunting Â
I don’t expect to finish 1-15. But 1-6 sunk us rendering the rest of the season meaningless. Hopefully Mara realizes the franchise is far removed from being respectable and stops advocating for short term fixes and band aids. This whole thing stinks. From him down.
I don’t expect to finish 1-15. But 1-6 sunk us rendering the rest of the season meaningless. Hopefully Mara realizes the franchise is far removed from being respectable and stops advocating for short term fixes and band aids. This whole thing stinks. From him down.
Falcon team has been underachieving. They have a good offense. Giants did a pretty decent job for most of the game.
The weaknesses continue to hurt them. OLine and Free Safety play. Thought the OLine settled down a bit in the second half.
End of game mind freezes - puzzling. First, QB sneak wuold have been OK. Think Eli wanted to do it quickly Hernandez on the second sneak was 5 yeard upfield. He's going to be very good. I will be interested in hearing about Wheeler's development. If Solder is going to continue to struggle - could they switch him and Wheeler, a more natural LT.
Blow it up and rebuild is idiotic in my opinion. Team has a lot of talent but the problems, especially the OLine continue. I think Eli has a year or two left. Immobile or not, 4 sacks in 1st half, not to mention the hurries - tough to win that way.
Giants are competung, but they continue to make mistakes in close games and they aren't good enough to overcome them.
Remember what I said at the beginning of the year? Â
i’m sorry i watched. so what they threw a ton? they were deplorable in red zone. as papa said an insurmountable 7 point lead. how many yards were in last 7 minutes?
nyg has to sell hope. i am willing to watch a 3-13 rebuild done right. i don’t know how i would feel watching another season in a no hope for future qb decision or a half measures tear down we have gotten for some time.
i agree with you on skill position talent clearly they have some. i disagree with your assesssment of manning. he was a contributor to this loss far from most guilty though. he’s been worse than last night several times this year.
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
All desperation anyway, but WTF?
at least 3 of them are in garbage time.
In 2013 they finished 7 - 9 and even played a meaningful game (home loss to Dallas). So yes, but I was always impresed how that shit team stabilized.
This year and last the Giants are a fucking joke. Literally, I can not recall ever seeing them this bad.
Those sneaks had to be on Eli.
I think Eli will be benched soon.
He threw for 400 yards.
I fully expected to see Rosas standing on crutches at that point.
All the money they spent this offseason has been bad.
This is the best draft they’ve had in about a decade. But the FA Guys and the Ogletree trade look like shit. Shumur will get another year but the rot is deeeep
2nd half. But the worst game in the 1st half...
I fully expected to see Rosas standing on crutches at that point.
Its the right move - just game out the scenarios when you're at work tomorrow. It substantially increases win probability.
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
It's the third separate time this year off the top of my head that mismanagement cost us dearly.
You have to balance your abilities, the math, and what you're looking to learn from your team.
I doubt that Shurmur called two QB sneaks...
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“We can’t win at home and we can’t win on the road. What we need is a neutral site.”
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
McVeigh
He should've been able to hold onto that 2 point conversion
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“We can’t win at home and we can’t win on the road. What we need is a neutral site.”
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
McVeigh
Thank-you Micky ... that's him.
This game was pretty much like every other one this year and last. Our OL is so bad that the other team can get pressure with just four or five, and drop everyone else back into coverage. We also can't run the ball.
Solder is awful. I'd seriously consider cutting him next year regardless of the cap hit. We aren't going to be competitive next year anyway. Might as well eat all the bad contracts all at once, and get them off the cap at the same time.
We have a generational RB and WR, and can't move the ball.
Eli's total lack of mobility magnifies the bad OL play. He's also skittish, and is quick to check down even when there is no pressure. He's done. I'd like to see Lauletta after the bye.
So many holes on this team.
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is not giving us a chance to win. It's more than just Eli, but not making a change at this point seems crazy. We're 1-6 and our offense is a joke.
He threw for 400 yards.
Yay!
I would certainly consider trading just about anyone.
Kickers can defy all the laws of physics and their own ability nailing impossibly long FGs against us.
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“We can’t win at home and we can’t win on the road. What we need is a neutral site.”
“What do you think of your team’s execution?”
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
McVeigh
Thank-you Micky ... that's him.
John McKay ...
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
It was John McKay....BTW...I thoght you said goddnight after 7-0....not that I would have blamed you, I just like the torture
against a bad team, NYG adds two garbage tds. dysfunctional red zone execution. Horrendous play calling. No commit to Run.
COACH was a joke tonight.
OLine sucks.
if Eli called those sneaks shame on him. It does not really matter but just illustrates what a dumb and bad team this is. He was good at stat run ups between the twenties but did not play well in red zone.
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
Shut-up Shurmur - you sound like a robot.
Just disappointed...I don’t see him out scheming anyone.
That being said - our OL sucks. Barkley does everything on his own and Eli is going to get killed this year.
Interesting stat lines - very similar between both teams.
I fully expected to see Rosas standing on crutches at that point.
Trying to set up a win by dropping the lead to 6 points. If the GOD damn refs would have called the holding that took place as the defender clearly held Odels arm, it would have happened.
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is not giving us a chance to win. It's more than just Eli, but not making a change at this point seems crazy. We're 1-6 and our offense is a joke.
He threw for 400 yards.
Who Cares!
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but I can't for the life of me understand why he'd go for 2 there.
I fully expected to see Rosas standing on crutches at that point.
Its the right move - just game out the scenarios when you're at work tomorrow. It substantially increases win probability.
In a vacuum, statistically - I'd say yes.
Given that the Giants are woefully inept in both short yardage and red zone situations - I'd say the analytics should drive you to kick the PAT and hope for a stop and a long scoring play.
I'm as big a fan of analytics as anyone, but I think they need to be driven by a team's strengths and weaknesses, not just league trends. The only way I saw it working in our case was if the D could conceivably get two stops, and we could somehow manage two FGs to tie it up. There wasn't enough time for that, and the D wasn't going to hold up regardless.
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is not giving us a chance to win. It's more than just Eli, but not making a change at this point seems crazy. We're 1-6 and our offense is a joke.
He threw for 400 yards.
So what? Stats are only one part of it, and often a meaningless part. It wasn't nearly good enough.
If you're happy with the product the Giants offense put out because they threw for 400 against a shit D with a lead then it's a lost cause.
Again, who cares! How many TD's is throwing?
Um Brady and Belichick. And they let him walk because he’s cooked. Gentlemen Missed on Norwell and panicked. Solder is done and they are beyond fucked w that contract
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
My recollection is that the Falcons desperately wanted Engram, and tried to trade up with the Giants to get him, but Reese refused.
“I’m in favor of it.”
Tampa Bay head coach ... I forgot his name but, he sure was funny.
"I told them I had a 5 year plan because I had a 5 year contract. If I had a 6 year contract it would have been a 6 year plan" ... he was the funniest - forgot his name though.
It was John McKay....BTW...I thoght you said goddnight after 7-0....not that I would have blamed you, I just like the torture
Mckay, McVeigh ... Tomatoe, Tamato as a Giants fan did you really think I was going to turn the game off and go to sleep?
How dare you .... : )
What's your point?
He's right.
His outdated glasses frames are enraging
It's the third separate time this year off the top of my head that mismanagement cost us dearly.
Regardless of the mismanagement of the game. How many games are we winning when the QB throws 1 TD per game?
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Routes.
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
My recollection is that the Falcons desperately wanted Engram, and tried to trade up with the Giants to get him, but Reese refused.
I don’t recall that but it goes without saying that Engram is another Athlete more than Football player. Par for the course
Because people (players) are afraid of that fucking gangster .. (Belichick).
Make no mistake about it ..... 6'5" 325 pounders are afraid of that fucking midget. That what makes a good head coach.
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however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
What's your point?
Point is he’s not getting those big game changing plays and scoring TDs
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is not giving us a chance to win. It's more than just Eli, but not making a change at this point seems crazy. We're 1-6 and our offense is a joke.
He threw for 400 yards.
You can’t posdibly look at this game and say he played well.
A lot of plays left out there.
Wow he is saying as much
Not with this GM. You'd think this season would humble some of his arrogance, but I doubt it.
I think so little of the Giants FO, I wouldn't be surprised if they traded the #1 overall pick for Derek Carr.
Hell, I'm surprised he got 94 after running behind that sorry sack of losers called an Offensive Line.
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would it shock anyone to see the Giants secure the #1 pick and then proceed to select some obscure RG from a lesser program or some equivalent?
I think so little of the Giants FO, I wouldn't be surprised if they traded the #1 overall pick for Derek Carr.
FOH. Derek Carr is not worth the #1 overall pick. Not in any universe.
Sounds like a typical Reese brag about how fucking smart he was to draft somebody and how fucking smart he was for not trading down.
I’m shocked at how people either refuse or just can’t see it. Eli is worthless now. He literally brings nothing to the table anymore. He completes about 7-10 nice passes a game. Leaves about 7-10 passes or plays on the field every game. Doesn’t beat 90% of any and all pressure types and now, this latest version (17-18) almost refuses to take any shots when their are plays to be made. Eli now looks not only shellshocked but neutered as well.
Yes the ol sucks. So does Eli now. We need to accept it. Hopefully the giants will.
Holding is what he does best
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Routes.
And Booger’s babbling about Engram being a mismatch was behind annoying. Especially as he’s looking more bust like every game. Reese could have had either Ramczyk or Robinson instead. He’s a mismatch all right. Mismatched As a football player
My recollection is that the Falcons desperately wanted Engram, and tried to trade up with the Giants to get him, but Reese refused.
I don’t recall that but it goes without saying that Engram is another Athlete more than Football player. Par for the course
This is what I found:
"The Giants opted to select Evan Engram over David Njoku, doing so despite the Miami product receiving a bit more pre-draft hype, and that pick was viewed by some as a reach. But Vacchiano notes buzz swirled about a team trying to trade up in front of the Giants to select Engram, identifying the Bills and Falcons as interested suitors. The Browns traded back into the first round to take Njoku, so they may have been in on this pursuit as well. Njoku was scheduled to visit the Giants earlier this month, but the team cancelled the meeting.
A jump in front of the Buccaneers or Broncos for the right to take O.J. Howard, whom the Giants “loved,” or Bolles would have cost the team a third-round pick, Vacchiano reports. The Giants stood tight at 23, viewing Engram and third-round pick Davis Webb as a better package than either Howard or Bolles."
Worst OL in the 52 years I’m watching. No other OL is close to this bad.
Worst OL in the 52 years I’m watching. No other OL is close to this bad.
a back like Barkley you can now build around . Acid Test Can't cut Soldier until you replace him period .
Almost have to cluster draft the O-line need cap space and picks I would look at the Best Center in the draft and A LT high round 1-2 .Unless the QB is here .Even then you can't throw a rookie behind this mess .
If they were smart they would move on from a few players
and get some picks . people mentioned Shepard Keep Shepard and move on from Engram . Get a couple of TE's with Size
that can block .
Defense in dire need of a Free Safety and linebackers .
Look at a guy thats like 6'3" 220-230 with speed .A tackling machine . Another CB with speed .
I don''t know about most of you coach Shurmur seems unsure of himself had problems most of the season with the clock
and the red-zone is like the dead zone . first down on the two yard line Barkley gets 3 touches then settle for
the field goal but I see little imagination used in this game should have been won no excuse .
for it . Anyways it's grin and bear it till free agency what a bitch of a season it's like groundhog day .
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however, he looks tentative once he catches it. He needs to explode at that point, but when he slows down to attempt to make a move, get gang tackle him.
What's your point?
Point is he’s not getting those big game changing plays and scoring TDs
Believe it or not he ca't out run everybody. How about asking why the QB can't seem to score in the Red Zone.
Meh... We're the Knicks
Combining the two is a major problem.
Falcon team has been underachieving. They have a good offense. Giants did a pretty decent job for most of the game.
The weaknesses continue to hurt them. OLine and Free Safety play. Thought the OLine settled down a bit in the second half.
End of game mind freezes - puzzling. First, QB sneak wuold have been OK. Think Eli wanted to do it quickly Hernandez on the second sneak was 5 yeard upfield. He's going to be very good. I will be interested in hearing about Wheeler's development. If Solder is going to continue to struggle - could they switch him and Wheeler, a more natural LT.
Blow it up and rebuild is idiotic in my opinion. Team has a lot of talent but the problems, especially the OLine continue. I think Eli has a year or two left. Immobile or not, 4 sacks in 1st half, not to mention the hurries - tough to win that way.
Giants are competung, but they continue to make mistakes in close games and they aren't good enough to overcome them.
Offensive Line Coach Hal Hunter
Look up his OL's fantastic stats everywhere he's coached. That was the reason he was unemployed last year...
Shit coaches make for shit units.
Offensive Line Coach Hal Hunter
Look up his OL's fantastic stats everywhere he's coached. That was the reason he was unemployed last year...
Shit coaches make for shit units.
I think shit players is more of the culprit.
Guy was bad in his previous job. Why would we think he would be better here?
This team has a terrible offense unit and average at best d. terrible specials.
it’s not a good team and is a rebuild which may not take wins but will need to take the rest of this year and next with a new qb.
if eli plays next year on this team there will be a mutiny. many will stop watching.
They should have had TD instead of FG but OBJ didn't run to right spot.
If anybody is that big of a fucking baby to stop watching because Eli returns - they shouldn't be watching in the 1st place.
He had 399 yards, and looked better when he had the protection. He's not the future but has some years left.
nyg has to sell hope. i am willing to watch a 3-13 rebuild done right. i don’t know how i would feel watching another season in a no hope for future qb decision or a half measures tear down we have gotten for some time.