For the love of God, SELL. TRADE. FIRESALE.

Couldn’t agree more.

Why change it now? We are clearly on the right path. Just gotta stick with the analytics.

Our trash?

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if teams approach you, not the other way around...

certainly consider trading just about anyone, but it's not in the Giants' mantra, so I doubt anything will happen. We'd also have to trade at a steep discount.

How goes the law career, Anak?

You doing ok? Hope all is well.

The amount we are paying him we can get 2 good receivers in the market plus the two draft picks.

In comment 14142197 Foobarbaz said:

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The amount we are paying him we can get 2 good receivers in the market plus the two draft picks.

No thanks

Most teams aren't dead at the trade deadline and teams overpay in this window (see Dallas). They have to cash in and try to move some of these guys. I think there would be market for Vernon, Jenkins, Collins, Shep, Snacks, etc. Any guy that you don't foresee being on the roster and performing at a high level in 2020 should be on the block.

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In comment 14142197 Foobarbaz said: Quote: The amount we are paying him we can get 2 good receivers in the market plus the two draft picks. No thanks

Even if it's with a team like Cardy or Bills? We can get a QB plus Nick Bosa

In comment 14142184 B in ALB said:

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How goes the law career, Anak? You doing ok? Hope all is well.

Thanks for checking in, B. I'll e-mail you tomorrow!

Any picks in the first four rounds are a plus compared to this crap

The Giants have some BAD contracts. The Giants are going to have some tough decisions with Vernon, Jenkins, Omaneh. Obviously, we'd like to cut all of them. But, cutting any of them has dead cap space implications.

Whoever is creating these contracts is doing a really bad job.

Snacks, Collins, and Jenkins

Make an offer, if it works with the cap make the trade.

This team is years away from competing.

2 OLine starters and a Free Safety would make a difference. If they can run block for Barkley - everything changes.

Might laso want to play Carter more and pick up another pass rusher.

There's talent on this team - they've lost a lot of close games.

Get a few draft picks and pray that they can produce at a fraction of the level some of these guys have the ability to play at. That will really get you out of the basement faster!

In comment 14142479 robbieballs2003 said:

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Snacks, Collins, and Jenkins

I would add OV to the list, too. While he can restructure to lower his salary next year, I don't see any reason why he will be retained under his current contract ($15.5M for 2019). His value will never be higher and better to get something than nothing.

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In comment 14142479 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: Snacks, Collins, and Jenkins I would add OV to the list, too. While he can restructure to lower his salary next year, I don't see any reason why he will be retained under his current contract ($15.5M for 2019). His value will never be higher and better to get something than nothing.

But the cap hit is a lot. He'd be a better candidate in the offseason imo.

we need draft picks picks picks,imo.And there is not a single player (not named barkley) who is unquestionable!!

In comment 14142600 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 14142540 Diver_Down said: Quote: In comment 14142479 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: Snacks, Collins, and Jenkins I would add OV to the list, too. While he can restructure to lower his salary next year, I don't see any reason why he will be retained under his current contract ($15.5M for 2019). His value will never be higher and better to get something than nothing. But the cap hit is a lot. He'd be a better candidate in the offseason imo.

We have the space to move him now. Look at Spotrac's site and toggle the red x for this year.
Vernon's Contract - ( New Window )

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How goes the law career, Anak? You doing ok? Hope all is well.

B, remind me of your email

Already missing a couple picks next year including the 3rd. I’m shopping Vernon and Jackrabbit and others. I think those guys can really help a contender and would love for the Giants to add picks. They have holes all over this roster.

Salary cap.

learn it, live it, be humbled by it.

The Giants don't have the cap room to make trades.

Gettleman is not that person.

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Gettleman is not that person.

I'll throw my hat into the ring

I'd take my own advice on that cap comment. They can move these guys.

I would have preferred 3 guys only touched by the hand of an angel

on OLine would make huge difference.

Easier said than done, especially through FA where very few quality OL see the open market. The best and probably only way we fix the OL is through the draft and that takes time. We also need a QB and a pass rush. Those take time and resources too. They need to come up with a longterm plan and convert short term assets (descending players on large contracts or ascending players you don't intend to resign) into longterm assets, (draft picks and future cap space) to coincide with that reality.

This is so sad. I don't see where it does.

-- Snacks has some value to someone I would think. Hate to lose him, but will he still be here when (if) they fix this?

-- Vernon, maybe. But, a huge gamble. What if Carter isn't the answer? What if we don't get Bosa? We'd need to spend more money (or a high pick) on an edge rusher and have less to fix the OL. I think they need to see what they have with him this year (and learn about Carter too).

-- Collins, I am not sure that he Giants will sign him long-term, given the other needs that they have. However, our DB's are pretty bad too overall. If someone offers a 2 or 3, you would have to listen.

-- Jackrabbit - Again, who's going to play CB next year? Do we have the money to go get one if we let him go.

-- Eli - Would love to see him lead Jax to the promised land, but don't see him or them making this happen. Is he the veteran caretaker until the new QB is ready? Or, do they go with a Derek Carr or Joe Flacco next year?