justify Eli M staying at QB .... and cutting Eli A ..... benching Flowers and then cutting ....
If a player must perform to keep their job how does Eli still have his?
He is living on the biggest "scholarship" off all .....
Eli A overall was playing a lot better than last season and of the CBs actually performing the best as Janoris is mentally off his game (which is semi-understandable as he is human)
Solder is playing piss poor where is his penalty there???
Cherry picking is a quick way to lose players and/or a team especially with poor coaching at times.
This will become interesting to say the least in regards to overall player reactions.
Who are you tell who and what someone can post?
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Beating this same dead horse?
Who are you tell who and what someone can post?
Someone smarter and more senior than you
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Beating this same dead horse?
Who are you tell who and what someone can post?
I didn't tell you what you can or can't do getting some reading comprehension because what i'm doing is pointing the idiocy of these repetitious weak ass threads you keep making
You bother by me pointing out Eli M. poor play
well that will be the consistent thread for the rest of the year until the HC and brass he ready to make the hard call ...
You bother by me pointing out Eli M. poor play
well that will be the consistent thread for the rest of the year until the HC and brass he ready to make the hard call ...
Why are you going to continue to make one every day?
In comment 14145036 Cariboo said:
Surprised nobody’s started a new thread about it today
He also has a no trade clause. If you wanted to dump the contract, you'd have to do so on HIS terms.
It never mattered if they wanted him gone this past season. It was ultimately up to Eli.
He also has a no trade clause. If you wanted to dump the contract, you'd have to do so on HIS terms.
It never mattered if they wanted him gone this past season. It was ultimately up to Eli.
He can be BENCHED for his PISS POOR play ....
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He is not on a "scholarship". He has a contract. One that has hard to get out of until...this upcoming offseason.
He also has a no trade clause. If you wanted to dump the contract, you'd have to do so on HIS terms.
It never mattered if they wanted him gone this past season. It was ultimately up to Eli.
He can be BENCHED for his PISS POOR play ....
399 yards
71% completion percentage
10.4 yards per pass
And he did that with ZERO running game, sacked 4 times in the first half, and having on avg 1.8 secs to throw the ball
The only thing PISS POOR about that is your lame argument
But come on ... are you actually sitting their saying Eli has played well this season????
And get the OL is crap but they are being held accountable somewhat .... Solder is getting a pass as well ... but at least their are trying something.
What are we doing about the piss poor play of Eli? Nothing!
The HC and brass need to be real and sit him down ... how much worse can Kyle do?
He is more mobile. His strength is quick decision making and accuracy in the short and med passing game.
We are 1-6 the season is over ... time to make the hard unpopular call and sit him .... he got a chance he cant get it done.
But come on ... are you actually sitting their saying Eli has played well this season????
And get the OL is crap but they are being held accountable somewhat .... Solder is getting a pass as well ... but at least their are trying something.
What are we doing about the piss poor play of Eli? Nothing!
you keep moving the goal posts every time your argument gets blown up. The fucking game is an 11 man sport and it gets tiresome seeing every single other player getting breaks while Eli gets slammed for not being absolutely perfect, and this has happened virtually his whole career. Eli is not why we are losing, not even close to the reason.
I acknowledge the OL a pivotal component for any QB is sub-par ... and has stated that above. But that is not excusing him of bird-dogging at time, watching the rush (stand tall in the pocket we would expect that of any other QB), avoid phantom rushers, missing throws in clean pockets.
I am an Eli fan and wanted him to rebound and actually placed a future bet he'd get 1 more SB ring with us AS THE STARTER! I was wrong!!!
He is at best a backup at this point can play 2 to 4 games well if he is given a Utopian situation.
I acknowledge the OL a pivotal component for any QB and this one is sub-par ... and has stated that above. But that is not excusing him of bird-dogging at times, watching the rush (stand tall in the pocket we would expect that of any other QB), avoid phantom rushers, missing throws in clean pockets.
I am an Eli fan and wanted him to rebound and actually placed a future bet he'd get 1 more SB ring with us AS THE STARTER! I was wrong!!!
He is at best a backup at this point can play 2 to 4 games well if he is given a Utopian situation.
Then the grammatical errors make it virtually impossible to take you seriously. It's a keyboard train wreck every time.
But blaming him for losses given the fact he is the 2nd most sacked QB in the league and our shitty run game is ridiculous, he is on pace to have one of his best years statistically.
You had one of the worse pass rushing D's getting absurd pressure on him with a 3 man rush. Do you understand how hard it is to get a 10+ yard per pass avg with no running game and under 2 secs to throw the ball while there are 9 defenders in coverage?
The receiver runs the wrong route = Eli's fault
HB gets blown up pass blocking = Eli's fault
LT is turnstile = Eli's fault
WR drops a pass because the ball was not 3 inches to the left = Eli's fault
Even if the guy had an absolutely perfect game someone would make a thread on here bitching about him not throwing for a 6th TD and it's been that way for years
But blaming him for losses given the fact he is the 2nd most sacked QB in the league and our shitty run game is ridiculous, he is on pace to have one of his best years statistically.
You had one of the worse pass rushing D's getting absurd pressure on him with a 3 man rush. Do you understand how hard it is to get a 10+ yard per pass avg with no running game and under 2 secs to throw the ball while there are 9 defenders in coverage?
The receiver runs the wrong route = Eli's fault
HB gets blown up pass blocking = Eli's fault
LT is turnstile = Eli's fault
WR drops a pass because the ball was not 3 inches to the left = Eli's fault
Even if the guy had an absolutely perfect game someone would make a thread on here bitching about him not throwing for a 6th TD and it's been that way for years
The losses are on everyone same as the only WIN was a TEAM effort. My point is Eli is playing bad and has for a few season now and there is ZERO accountability from the coaches and the brass. Flowers needed to be benched/cut his played demanded. The change at RG was needed as well.
A change at QB is needed....yup we have a poor OL and a statue at QB, that is not seeing the field well and is fearful of the inevitable pass rush that he has ZERO chance of escaping. So why not play the more mobile and accurate QB (Eli still cant throw a screen to save his life) with the OL we have and see how it goes ... he gets experience we see what he has maybe we dont need to force a B pick or overpay in FA (see Solder) ....
What has Eli done currently to warrant being the starting QB? I appreciated the SB wins but that was eons ago. He was rewarded handsomely $$$ wise. He is not earning his keep at all.
It's so bad that you somehow use Eli Apple getting traded to segue into yet another rant against Manning
But blaming him for losses given the fact he is the 2nd most sacked QB in the league and our shitty run game is ridiculous, he is on pace to have one of his best years statistically.
You had one of the worse pass rushing D's getting absurd pressure on him with a 3 man rush. Do you understand how hard it is to get a 10+ yard per pass avg with no running game and under 2 secs to throw the ball while there are 9 defenders in coverage?
The receiver runs the wrong route = Eli's fault
HB gets blown up pass blocking = Eli's fault
LT is turnstile = Eli's fault
WR drops a pass because the ball was not 3 inches to the left = Eli's fault
Even if the guy had an absolutely perfect game someone would make a thread on here bitching about him not throwing for a 6th TD and it's been that way for years
The losses are on everyone same as the only WIN was a TEAM effort. My point is Eli is playing bad and has for a few season now and there is ZERO accountability from the coaches and the brass. Flowers needed to be benched/cut his played demanded it. The change at RG was needed as well.
A change at QB is needed....yup we have a poor OL and a statue at QB, that is not seeing the field well and is fearful of the inevitable pass rush that he has ZERO chance of escaping. So why not play the more mobile and accurate QB (Eli still cant throw a screen to save his life) with the OL we have and see how it goes ... he gets experience we see what he has maybe we dont need to force a QB pick or overpay in FA (see Solder) ....
What has Eli done currently to warrant being the starting QB? I appreciated the SB wins but that was eons ago. He was rewarded handsomely $$$ wise. He is not earning his keep at all.
The HC has stated on record we need better play at QB. Well we have not gotten it ... so what is the repercussion for not doing his job? Just keep reshuffling the OL? Is that going to make him go thru his progressions? Stop bird-dogging?
So basically Eli does not has to be accountable for his piss poor play?
Also I asked are you saying he is playing well? Not has he declined...that is a given.
You can even admit he is not playing well. I can be a fan and a supporter but I dont have to be blind to what I am seeing.
It's so bad that you somehow use Eli Apple getting traded to segue into yet another rant against Manning
Actually my my point was about Shurmur not having the same standard regarding performance and punishments (ie benching, cuts etc)
He has benched, cut etc other players/positions why not the QB that is shitting the bed?
You dont think the players know Eli is playing like shit?
Pound for pound Eli Apple has played better than Eli Manning this season ...
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In comment 14145018 montanagiant said:
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Beating this same dead horse?
Who are you tell who and what someone can post?
Someone smarter and more senior than you
Not for anything but this is the attitude that makes BBI shitty sometimes. This idea that there is some weirdo counsel of elders or some shit that everyone has to defer to. Gtfo with that.
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In comment 14145018 montanagiant said:
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Beating this same dead horse?
Who are you tell who and what someone can post?
Someone smarter and more senior than you
Not for anything but this is the attitude that makes BBI shitty sometimes. This idea that there is some weirdo counsel of elders or some shit that everyone has to defer to. Gtfo with that.
Sorry, but there is. We're taking back BBI from the mouth-breathers of the world. There is a hierarchy and you best follow it unless you want to be shit on. The Giants aren't the only ones who have fallen from grace. BBI has become a cesspool of morons and reactionary, revisionist assholes.
But you're awesome, Lim. Cool in my book.