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NYG vs OAK draft position/week 9 gmaes

ray in arlington : 11/4/2018 11:38 am
Record of opponents (excluding common games)

OAK W 64 L 44

NYG W 56 L 46 (5 games back)

(So NYG would pick ahead of OAK unless they catch them)


To help NYG pick ahead of OAK
BUF over CHI
ATL over WAS
DEN over HOU (would count as 2 wins for OAK if DEN wins)
LAR over NO
TEN over DAL
KC over CLE
MIA over NYJ
LAC over SEA
LAR over NO

This weeks games:

1. OAK 1-7 already played
2. NYG 1-7 bye
3. SF 2-7 already played
4. BUF 2-6 at home vs CHI
5. ARI 2-6 bye
6. CLE 2-5-1 home vs KC
7. IND 3-5 bye
8. NYJ 3-5 at MIA
9. JAC 3-5 bye
10. DEN 3-5 home vs HOU









I Get That If Makes Sense To Root for...  
Jim in Tampa : 11/4/2018 11:59 am : link
Buffalo over Chicago and Cleveland over KC, because it helps the Giants if they tie for the top spot with Oakland.

But both Buffalo and Cleveland have only two wins and we could end up in a tie with either of those teams as well. So if we root for them to win it could come back to haunt us.
RE: I Get That If Makes Sense To Root for...  
ray in arlington : 11/4/2018 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14164007 Jim in Tampa said:
Quote:
Buffalo over Chicago and Cleveland over KC, because it helps the Giants if they tie for the top spot with Oakland.

But both Buffalo and Cleveland have only two wins and we could end up in a tie with either of those teams as well. So if we root for them to win it could come back to haunt us.


seems to me that wins by buff and cle can only help (unless they play other bad teams)


reconsidering  
ray in arlington : 11/4/2018 12:11 pm : link
a BUF win helps tiebreak with OAK and gets BUF another win.

the KC win over CLE helps with OAK tiebreak, but probably more important to get another win out of CLE.


Why is Oakland listed as 1  
robbieballs2003 : 11/4/2018 12:20 pm : link
and the Giants at 2?
OUCH...yes better to list NYG first  
ray in arlington : 11/4/2018 12:23 pm : link
1. NYG 1-7
2. OAK 1-7
3. SF 2-7
4. BUF 2-6
5. ARI 2-6
6. CLE 2-5-1
7. IND 3-5
8. NYJ 3-5
9. JAC 3-5
10. DEN 3-5
Oakland got no more stars  
Foobarbaz : 11/4/2018 1:01 pm : link
With obj and barkley, ganna be hard to have worse record then Oakland
RE: OUCH...yes better to list NYG first  
baadbill : 11/4/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 14164034 ray in arlington said:
Quote:
1. NYG 1-7
2. OAK 1-7
3. SF 2-7
4. BUF 2-6
5. ARI 2-6
6. CLE 2-5-1
7. IND 3-5
8. NYJ 3-5
9. JAC 3-5
10. DEN 3-5


wow, that's a shitload of terrible teams
RE: I Get That If Makes Sense To Root for...  
MookGiants : 11/4/2018 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14164007 Jim in Tampa said:
Quote:
Buffalo over Chicago and Cleveland over KC, because it helps the Giants if they tie for the top spot with Oakland.

But both Buffalo and Cleveland have only two wins and we could end up in a tie with either of those teams as well. So if we root for them to win it could come back to haunt us.


Huh? It helps the Giants in all instances.
bills are going down  
ray in arlington : 11/4/2018 3:35 pm : link
they will go to 2-7. they could even have a tiebreak advantage over giants after this weekends games.



and DET loses  
ray in arlington : 11/4/2018 3:56 pm : link
to join the 3-5 group.
RE: Oakland got no more stars  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/4/2018 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14164097 Foobarbaz said:
Quote:
With obj and barkley, ganna be hard to have worse record then Oakland


Especially w Gruden coaching. Game has passed him by. His schtick isn’t going to work this time around. He won in Tampa w Dungy’s team and lots of players he didn’t bring in. His ego is killing that team as much as his shitty player moves is
Matt  
KWALL2 : 11/4/2018 10:30 pm : link
The game has passed him by? Why?

he's making all the right moves. Loading up on resources. If he blows that then maybe it passed him by. But right now? Gruden is doing everything right in my book.

might as well throw this up  
ray in arlington : 11/4/2018 11:48 pm : link
1. NYG 1-7
2. OAK 1-7
3. SF 2-7
4. BUF 2-7
5. ARI 2-6
6. CLE 2-6-1
7. NYJ 3-6
8. DEN 3-6
9. IND 3-5
10. JAC 3-5
11. DET 3-5
12. TB 3-5

A TEN/DAL loser on Monday night would also go to 3-5. probably.

Excluding common opponents, the OAK opps are 70-50, NYG opps are 61-49, so you can see the OAK opps have an extra 9-1 compared with NYG. (The disparity is games played is due to how the byes were distributed this year).



whoops  
ray in arlington : 11/4/2018 11:49 pm : link
take out the word "probably"
I think this is interesting.  
FStubbs : 11/5/2018 4:55 pm : link
But we can already mark Oakland down for 1-15 and I think the Giants will win another game before the year is out.
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