Damn. I was going to mention him, but you beat me to it. 3 SB rings with the Giants - not to mention his resume in building the Jags. Interesting that his 5 year waiting period has already begun. I think he'll be eligible in 2 years.
retired in top 10 in rush yards and yards from scrimmage, a boatload of tds, and a super bowl mvp. If you look at his prime years from 79-84, only walter payton has more rush yards or yards from scrimmage at the position. He spent 5 years in the top 5 in yards from scrimmage. That's better than a lot of guys in the HoF. There's a lot of talk of Tiki, but many forget Anderson. He's not getting at this point imo
has been forgotten. He was on pace to have to have a Hall of Fame-type career until that fuckin Eagles game.
Among players that have been retired for at least 5 years, it's fair to say that Shockey had a strong enough finish to his career to be thrown in to the conversation.
I loved George Martin. Most people credited credited Carson as the heart of the team but I always thought it was Martin. And this isn't trying to take anything away from the great Harry Carson either.
Not sure though if he is HOF
Leonard Marshall. Imo huge doscredit to the voters Â
But punters just don't make it it, other than Guy. But Jennings was so dominant at his position he deserves consideration.
While not as dominant as Jennings was a punter, Bob Tucker was a pretty dominant TE for the period he played but not sure how his numbers compare to those that are in.
RE: Leonard Marshall. Imo huge doscredit to the voters Â
He was a monster. Lost amid the greatness of Taylor and Carson. Bavaro is next. He was as good but career much shorter. Banks as well.
Love Simms but his skill set not close to those 3 IMO
I never even thought about Marshall for the HOF even though he was indeed a monster, UNTIL, at my daughter’s wedding about 10 years ago, he said, “in all the years I played, who was better?” In the overall, I couldn’t think of anyone
He didn't retire yet or it has not been 5 years yet.... he will be there.
Actually, the 5 year waiting period only pertains to active players and coaching. Front office executives do not have to wait. Of course, a front office executive rarely is considered, but Tom would be entering based on his coaching merits. His waiting period began ticking when he took the advisor role in the league office before his role as Executive VP of Football Operations.
He was a monster. Lost amid the greatness of Taylor and Carson. Bavaro is next. He was as good but career much shorter. Banks as well.
Love Simms but his skill set not close to those 3 IMO
I never even thought about Marshall for the HOF even though he was indeed a monster, UNTIL, at my daughter’s wedding about 10 years ago, he said, “in all the years I played, who was better?” In the overall, I couldn’t think of anyone
Hey Bruce. Hope ur well. He was a major pass rush threat as a 3/4 DE. How many of those are there still? And IMO he could play today. Just t a force. I really think he was just over shadowed by the LB corps. Shouldn’t have been if u know football
Still play today at the size he was.
best player in NFL history who is not in the HOF, amazing that you guys didn't mention him more. Second would be Jimmy Patton, others would be Phil Simms, OJ Anderson, and Tiki Barber.
RE: Charlie Conerly is not only the best Giant not in the HOF, he is the Â
best player in NFL history who is not in the HOF, amazing that you guys didn't mention him more. Second would be Jimmy Patton, others would be Phil Simms, OJ Anderson, and Tiki Barber.
Yeah, good call he should be in
RE: Charlie Conerly is not only the best Giant not in the HOF, he is the Â
best player in NFL history who is not in the HOF, amazing that you guys didn't mention him more. Second would be Jimmy Patton, others would be Phil Simms, OJ Anderson, and Tiki Barber.
I mentioned OJ earlier today. It really is a crime that a RB like Floyd Little is in but the better OJA isn't. Really embarrassing...
Case closed.
Well you gotta be specific!!!
Haha
Damn. I was going to mention him, but you beat me to it. 3 SB rings with the Giants - not to mention his resume in building the Jags. Interesting that his 5 year waiting period has already begun. I think he'll be eligible in 2 years.
Was just thinking about those 86 Giants Linebackers. Taylor, Banks, Carson and Reasons. Beasts
How he is not in after all these years mystifies me.
Banks #1, Simms #2
And Barber should have his number completely erased from the stadium
He didn't retire yet or it has not been 5 years yet.... he will be there.
No... and they played different positions too.
Among players that have been retired for at least 5 years, it's fair to say that Shockey had a strong enough finish to his career to be thrown in to the conversation.
I loved George Martin. Most people credited credited Carson as the heart of the team but I always thought it was Martin. And this isn't trying to take anything away from the great Harry Carson either.
Not sure though if he is HOF
Love Simms but his skill set not close to those 3 IMO
While not as dominant as Jennings was a punter, Bob Tucker was a pretty dominant TE for the period he played but not sure how his numbers compare to those that are in.
Love Simms but his skill set not close to those 3 IMO
I never even thought about Marshall for the HOF even though he was indeed a monster, UNTIL, at my daughter’s wedding about 10 years ago, he said, “in all the years I played, who was better?” In the overall, I couldn’t think of anyone
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Tom Coughlin
He didn't retire yet or it has not been 5 years yet.... he will be there.
Actually, the 5 year waiting period only pertains to active players and coaching. Front office executives do not have to wait. Of course, a front office executive rarely is considered, but Tom would be entering based on his coaching merits. His waiting period began ticking when he took the advisor role in the league office before his role as Executive VP of Football Operations.
He is the NFL career leader in yards per reception
Maybe if he didn’t take his sweet ass time getting the next book out
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He was a monster. Lost amid the greatness of Taylor and Carson. Bavaro is next. He was as good but career much shorter. Banks as well.
Love Simms but his skill set not close to those 3 IMO
I never even thought about Marshall for the HOF even though he was indeed a monster, UNTIL, at my daughter’s wedding about 10 years ago, he said, “in all the years I played, who was better?” In the overall, I couldn’t think of anyone
Hey Bruce. Hope ur well. He was a major pass rush threat as a 3/4 DE. How many of those are there still? And IMO he could play today. Just t a force. I really think he was just over shadowed by the LB corps. Shouldn’t have been if u know football
Still play today at the size he was.
He is the NFL career leader in yards per reception
He's got a bit of an internet history which has really tarnished his reputation.
Yeah, good call he should be in
I mentioned OJ earlier today. It really is a crime that a RB like Floyd Little is in but the better OJA isn't. Really embarrassing...
Don't forget Bill Walsh, called him the best TE in the league.