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Rookie of the year?

mattyblue : 11/4/2018 1:15 pm
At the halfway point who do you think will take home the ROY award?

I think Saquon is gonna turn it on and win it. Gotta have something to root for.

Who are the top choices now?
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arcarsenal : 11/4/2018 1:17 pm : link
Barkley already is the frontrunner. He doesn't need to "turn it on" to win it - he already has. Our team just fucking sucks.
Saquon  
Anakim : 11/4/2018 1:17 pm : link
I guess Darnold will get a couple of votes, but I think Saquon is running away with this one (no pun intended).
Barkley isn’t  
mattyblue : 11/4/2018 1:19 pm : link
the Vegas front runner at the moment.
RE: Barkley isn’t  
Anakim : 11/4/2018 1:20 pm : link
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the Vegas front runner at the moment.


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Updated odds to win NFL Rookie of the Year (@betonline_ag):

Saquon Barkley -250
Baker Mayfield +350
Sam Darnold +500
Kerryon Johnson +1800
Nick Chubb +1800
Sony Michel +1800
Calvin Ridley +2800
Michael Gallup +3300
Phillip Lindsay +3300
8:45 AM - Nov 3, 2018
RE: Barkley isn’t  
arcarsenal : 11/4/2018 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14164113 mattyblue said:
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the Vegas front runner at the moment.


Yes he is.
Sorry  
mattyblue : 11/4/2018 1:27 pm : link
My friend sent me something he said was the Vegas line, it indeed was not.
Is it split between  
SHO'NUFF : 11/4/2018 1:51 pm : link
offense and defense?
RE: Is it split between  
arcarsenal : 11/4/2018 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14164143 SHO'NUFF said:
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offense and defense?


Yes, there is an ORoY and DRoY.

I believe Darius Leonard (IND) is the defensive frontrunner right now.
Bradley Chubb was Defensive Rookie of the Month  
shyster : 11/4/2018 2:06 pm : link
Had 5.5 sacks in October.

If he gets the rookie sack record, he'll probably get the award for the year.

Gettleman told us you build a team from the lines out. Yes, Barkley's a talent, but there's a reason DE's get paid more than RBs.
Von: BC for ROY - ( New Window )
Why oh why the darnold love  
bigbb : 11/4/2018 2:25 pm : link
I guess people haven't watched him much
RE: Why oh why the darnold love  
Default : 11/4/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14164182 bigbb said:
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I guess people haven't watched him much


Right?
Because a bunch of HOF QBs including both Mannings weren't awful their rookie years.
RE: RE: Why oh why the darnold love  
Toth029 : 11/4/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14164186 Default said:
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I guess people haven't watched him much



Right?
Because a bunch of HOF QBs including both Mannings weren't awful their rookie years.

He just isn't RoY material. That's all.
RE: RE: Why oh why the darnold love  
Deejboy : 11/4/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14164186 Default said:
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I guess people haven't watched him much



Right?
Because a bunch of HOF QBs including both Mannings weren't awful their rookie years.

He is talking about this year where he has been awful. He is the worst rated QB this year by a mile and probably needed to sit a year or two. And Sam Darnold is the furthest thing from a HOFer. He might not be a NFL starter in a few years. Jets fans will be killing him the next 4 years and calling him the new Mark Sanchez. The "he doesn't make the same mistake twice" narrative is out the window cause he does.
Baker  
Rory : 11/4/2018 6:00 pm : link
and Ridley are much more effective with better supporting staff.
RE: Baker  
arcarsenal : 11/4/2018 6:02 pm : link
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and Ridley are much more effective with better supporting staff.


No they aren't.
RE: Baker  
bw in dc : 11/4/2018 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14164552 Rory said:
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and Ridley are much more effective with better supporting staff.


Totally agree on Ridley. He's been brilliant. BTW, he'll never get it but QNelson has really kicked it in for the Colts.

I'm supposing the OP just means OROTY, btw.

On D, based on what I've seen, I think it's likely Ward or Tremaine Edmunds of Buffalo.

RE: RE: Baker  
arcarsenal : 11/4/2018 6:15 pm : link
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and Ridley are much more effective with better supporting staff.



Totally agree on Ridley. He's been brilliant. BTW, he'll never get it but QNelson has really kicked it in for the Colts.

I'm supposing the OP just means OROTY, btw.

On D, based on what I've seen, I think it's likely Ward or Tremaine Edmunds of Buffalo.


No love for Darius Leonard?

Guy already has 88 tackles and 4 sacks as a OLB.

Indy nailed that pick.
Good call on Leonard...  
bw in dc : 11/4/2018 6:24 pm : link
Did slip my radar.

My bigger oversight was Derwin James.
Barkley  
Jerry in DC : 11/4/2018 6:30 pm : link
will win O unless mayfield blows up in the 2nd half and the browns win a bunch of games. None of the other skill position players have enough workload to have a chance. In 50 years an offensive lineman has never won RoY.

D is more interesting with Chubb, James, Leonard and a few others. Some good defensive rookies in this class.
RE: Good call on Leonard...  
arcarsenal : 11/4/2018 6:33 pm : link
In comment 14164593 bw in dc said:
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Did slip my radar.

My bigger oversight was Derwin James.


Loved him pre-draft - if we had moved down, he's one of the guys I'd have been heavily targeting depending on how far back we moved.

LAC are building a nice little defense over there and they have a top 10 offense right now.

Once Bosa is back, they're going to be even better. Guy is a beast.
RE: Barkley  
bw in dc : 11/4/2018 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14164606 Jerry in DC said:
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will win O unless mayfield blows up in the 2nd half and the browns win a bunch of games. None of the other skill position players have enough workload to have a chance. In 50 years an offensive lineman has never won RoY.

D is more interesting with Chubb, James, Leonard and a few others. Some good defensive rookies in this class.


Ridley is trending to double digit TDs - just FYI.
RE: RE: Good call on Leonard...  
bw in dc : 11/4/2018 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14164609 arcarsenal said:
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Loved him pre-draft - if we had moved down, he's one of the guys I'd have been heavily targeting depending on how far back we moved.

LAC are building a nice little defense over there and they have a top 10 offense right now.

Once Bosa is back, they're going to be even better. Guy is a beast.


Agreed. I think the Chargers are going to the SB from AFC and that D is going to be a huge reason why...
RE: RE: RE: Good call on Leonard...  
MookGiants : 11/4/2018 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14164617 bw in dc said:
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Loved him pre-draft - if we had moved down, he's one of the guys I'd have been heavily targeting depending on how far back we moved.

LAC are building a nice little defense over there and they have a top 10 offense right now.

Once Bosa is back, they're going to be even better. Guy is a beast.



Agreed. I think the Chargers are going to the SB from AFC and that D is going to be a huge reason why...


I think they have a good team but they'd likely have to win in KC and NE to get to the super bowl, hard to see that happening
Giants go 8-0 and  
Jim in NH : 11/4/2018 10:03 pm : link
ROY is Lauletta, the new Tom Brady
RE: RE: Why oh why the darnold love  
Section331 : 11/5/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 14164186 Default said:
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I guess people haven't watched him much



Right?
Because a bunch of HOF QBs including both Mannings weren't awful their rookie years.


That's fine, but nobody was hyping Eli for ROY. Darnold at this point should be WAY down the list.
Those are betting odds though, aren't they?  
jcn56 : 11/5/2018 10:59 am : link
They're reflective of who gamblers thought might win OROY, not what anyone with an actual current opinion thinks.

I don't think there's a soul alive hyping Darnold to win OROY. I'm sure there are more than a few degenerate Jets fans who would bet otherwise with their wallets, though.
Barkley  
giants#1 : 11/5/2018 11:13 am : link
He's going to "turn it on"? He's already on pace for >2000 scrimmage yards and 14 TDs!
Ridley  
giants#1 : 11/5/2018 11:15 am : link
7 TDs (tied with Barkley), but Barkley has more rushing yards (519) and receiving yards (497) than Ridley (463). Individually, not combined.
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