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Schefter-Giants will franchise Collins if they have to

Vin_Cuccs : 11/4/2018 8:32 pm
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Even though the Giants listened to trade offers for Landon Collins before the NFL's trade deadline, sources expect New York to place its franchise tag on the Pro Bowl safety if the team can't sign him to a long-term extension first.

"I don't think they let him out," one source familiar with the Giants' thinking told ESPN.


Via Adam Schefter Twitter

I will delete if this is already been posted.
Oh boy...  
widmerseyebrow : 11/4/2018 8:33 pm : link
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Good  
adamg : 11/4/2018 8:35 pm : link
With Snacks gone, he's our best player on defense. Building block. Only 24 years old.
I hope "if they have to"  
santacruzom : 11/4/2018 8:35 pm : link
Includes the idea that he's playing well enough to deserve it.
I still say he' make a terrific weak side lineback  
BillKo : 11/4/2018 8:38 pm : link
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Just add some weight.
So, bullshit story?  
robbieballs2003 : 11/4/2018 8:40 pm : link
Where is it said they will? The quote is pure opinion.
RE: I still say he' make a terrific weak side lineback  
robbieballs2003 : 11/4/2018 8:42 pm : link
In comment 14164818 BillKo said:
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Just add some weight.


The Giants approached him about this after his rookie year. It was an emphatic no by him and he went on to have his best year trying to prove everybody wrong.
ewww  
ZGiants98 : 11/4/2018 8:44 pm : link
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“One source familiar with the Giants thinking said”  
GiantGolfer : 11/4/2018 8:52 pm : link
Meaning anyone on BBI...

Brilliant scoop by Schefter.
Shefter is a midget and a toilet bug  
B in ALB : 11/4/2018 9:31 pm : link
His charade of checking his phone during NFL Live is ridiculous. Typical Michigan trash. Shove that phone up your ass, shorty.
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I am Ninja : 11/4/2018 9:45 pm : link
thatd be a giants move. but still, fuck AS.
Schefter is really going out on a limb here  
Jay on the Island : 11/4/2018 9:52 pm : link
He is a free agent at the end of the year and the Giants turned down an offer of a 3rd round pick for Collins at the deadline. If they were planning on letting him walk they would have jumped at that offer. It's obvious that they intend to keep him.
RE: Schefter is really going out on a limb here  
christian : 11/4/2018 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14164944 Jay on the Island said:
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He is a free agent at the end of the year and the Giants turned down an offer of a 3rd round pick for Collins at the deadline. If they were planning on letting him walk they would have jumped at that offer. It's obvious that they intend to keep him.


Exactly. Collins has played on exactly 1 fully functional defense in his career, and was one the best defenders in the league. He's worth way, way more than a pick in the low or mid 90s.

The Giants have good options with Collins. Sign him, transition tag him and see what his market value is, franchise and keep him, franchise and trade him.
Collins  
darren in pdx : 11/4/2018 10:02 pm : link
is one of the very few plus players on this team, I'd be happy with the Giants keeping him. He still hasn't had a starting caliber safety playing next to him.
RE: So, bullshit story?  
EricJ : 11/4/2018 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14164820 robbieballs2003 said:
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Where is it said they will? The quote is pure opinion.


Exactly... someone please tell me who in the front office with this knowledge is talking to Schefter.
Good now this franschise  
prdave73 : 11/4/2018 11:49 pm : link
is thinking wisely.. people here talking about trading him? lol
They need to sign  
mattyblue : 11/5/2018 5:26 am : link
Collins, use the tag if necessary. He is still a great player on a shitty defense.
RE: They need to sign  
Hammer : 11/5/2018 6:21 am : link
In comment 14165084 mattyblue said:
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Collins, use the tag if necessary. He is still a great player on a shitty defense.


I don’t get the “shitty defense” thing. The Giants defense is on the field way too much and demoralized because the offense is putrid.

I think the defense is more than adequate and given support from the offensive side of the ball is well inside the top half of defenses league wide.
As they should, if necessary.  
Big Blue '56 : 11/5/2018 6:41 am : link
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Hammer  
joeinpa : 11/5/2018 7:06 am : link
The defense is adequate until they need a stop to stay in the game where their lack of a pass rush makes them inept
Collins struggles playing with extra weight  
JonC : 11/5/2018 7:56 am : link
He's been worlds better since trimming down and staying there.

Don't wreck a good thing trying to change it.
RE: Hammer  
UConn4523 : 11/5/2018 7:58 am : link
In comment 14165114 joeinpa said:
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The defense is adequate until they need a stop to stay in the game where their lack of a pass rush makes them inept


Yeah and how much of that is due to always having to defend when the offense can’t score more than 2 TDS per game?
As far as the tag goes  
JonC : 11/5/2018 8:16 am : link
Safety will push $12M in 2019, which is right around the number I'd value LC at ... but, given what blue chip defenders are making, his camp figures to push the envelope, which has the potential of getting rotten.
RE: RE: They need to sign  
Alex_Webster : 11/5/2018 8:45 am : link
In comment 14165094 Hammer said:
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In comment 14165084 mattyblue said:


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Collins, use the tag if necessary. He is still a great player on a shitty defense.



I don’t get the “shitty defense” thing. The Giants defense is on the field way too much and demoralized because the offense is putrid.

I think the defense is more than adequate and given support from the offensive side of the ball is well inside the top half of defenses league wide.



How many 3 & outs have they forced. How many leads have they protected?


Just a feeling, but I don't think they'll have to franchise Collins.  
Ira : 11/5/2018 8:50 am : link
I think he'll stay with the team for a fair contract.
RE: Just a feeling, but I don't think they'll have to franchise Collins.  
Racer : 11/5/2018 9:26 am : link
In comment 14165204 Ira said:
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I think he'll stay with the team for a fair contract.


Don't see it. I think there's a direct relationship between not being able to keep your mouth shut in the face of team struggles and overvaluing yourself in free agency.
RE: RE: Just a feeling, but I don't think they'll have to franchise Collins.  
Rong5611 : 11/5/2018 9:37 am : link
I don't see it. The team is going to suck next year and likely in 2020 as well.

Is he really going to want to play here? Waste some of his key years?

Don't know.

In comment 14165266 Racer said:
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In comment 14165204 Ira said:


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I think he'll stay with the team for a fair contract.



Don't see it. I think there's a direct relationship between not being able to keep your mouth shut in the face of team struggles and overvaluing yourself in free agency.
Of course they will  
AcesUp : 11/5/2018 9:39 am : link
Nothing really shocking or groundbreaking there. Teams don't just let good, young, talented players walk.
I trust that  
Pete in MD : 11/5/2018 10:35 am : link
the team thinks they can re-sign him at a fair rate or they would have taken a 3rd for him.
Weird stuff.  
mittenedman : 11/5/2018 12:23 pm : link
If he’s a core player why put him on the block?

Or in other words, willing to trade for a 2md round puch while simultaneously wanting to resign longterm?

I find that....bizarre. You either want to keep him or you dont.
It's probably about protecting the asset  
JonC : 11/5/2018 12:38 pm : link
while you continue to evaluate on his future here, on a roster that needs talent everywhere. They'll look to keep him at their assigned value, and if LC/his camp are not agreeable, then it could lead to a trade ... in the latter case, using the tag probably helps net them better than a #3 draft pick.
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