Rookie maximums for at-bats (130), games pitched (30) or innings (50) in the major leagues"
If the 2 leaders are within 5% of each other, or the leader has less than 35% there will be a run-off between the top 2. If a run-off results in a tie the tiebreaker will be vote total in the previous poll, we will continue to "go back" in the polls until there is a clear leader.
*Jeff McNeil is ineligible
*Chris Flexen is ineligible
1) Andres Gimenez (SS) AA 19/37 votes- 51%
2) Peter Alonso (1B) AAA 24/36 votes- 67%
3) Jarred Kelenic (CF) Kingsport 31/36-86%
4) Ronny Mauricio (SS) Kingsport 12/33-36%
5) Justin Dunn (RHP) AA 10/37-27%, Run-off with Mark Vientos 17/30-57%
6) Mark Vientos (3b) Kingsport 16/31-52%
7) David Peterson (LHP) A+ 21/31- 68%
8) Franklyn Kilome (RHP) AA 20/33-61%
9) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) A 18/32-56%
10) Shervyen Newton (SS) Kingsport 12/30-40%, Run-off with Anthony Kay 17/33-52%
11) Anthony Kay (LHP) AA 18/26-69%
12) Simeon Woods-Richardson (RHP) Kingsport 12/30-40%
13) Luis Santana (2B) 15/26-58%
14) Will Toffey (3B) 10/29-34%, run-off with Cecchini 15/27-56%
15) Gavin Cecchini (2b) 14/26-46%
16) Francisco Alvarez (C) 9/26-35%
17) Dez Lindsay (OF) 7/18-39%
18) Tony Dibrell (RHP) 9/23-39%
19) Jordan Humphreys (RHP) 7/21-33%, Run-off with Nido 18/24-75%
20) Ross Adolph (OF) 6/25-24%, run-off with Nido 18/25-72%
21) Adam Hill (RHP) 4/26-15%, Run-off with Nido/Crismatt 11/26-58%
22) Junior Santos (RHP) 6/28-21%, Run-off with Nido 11/20-55%
23) Tomas Nido (C) 10/23-43%
24) Luis Guillorme (SS) 9/24-38%
25) Adrian Hernandez 6/26-23%, run-off with Wahl/Cortes 8/15-53%
26) Carlos Cortes (2b) 8/21-38%
on the type of offseason plan that might be in place now that the decision has been made on BVW?
I missed his presser and haven't read or seen much since.
Not particularly. No knock on BVW at all but he's simply parroted buzzwords. Back to winning, stronger up the middle. Thus far there has been absolutely zero hint of targets or play (not a criticism) rather there just hasn't been anything to go on.
I hadn't realized Machado's agent was also Piazza's
though he was also Beltran's agent after he left Boras, probably in the exact moment the petty bs went on in the press. Was also A-Rod's agent. I've probably been the least optimistic person that there's actually a chance but if the Yankees + Dodgers aren't heavy in the bidding the Mets do make a ton of sense.
Roessler didn't appear to be a great hire in the first place. Sandy didn't really put Callaway in the best position to succeed outside of Eiland. DiScarcina was an especially strange call #Mets
Those first 12 are not a bad crop of young ballplayers. I guess Kilome has to be devalued for a season, and at least 1 of those LHP should work out. There's a couple of promising shortstops.
Trouble is....half this list is at Kingsport, moving up to Columbia.
1) Andres Gimenez (SS) AA 19/37 votes- 51%
2) Peter Alonso (1B) AAA 24/36 votes- 67%
3) Jarred Kelenic (CF) Kingsport 31/36-86%
4) Ronny Mauricio (SS) Kingsport 12/33-36%
5) Justin Dunn (RHP) AA 10/37-27%, Run-off with Mark Vientos 17/30-57%
6) Mark Vientos (3b) Kingsport 16/31-52%
7) David Peterson (LHP) A+ 21/31- 68%
8) Franklyn Kilome (RHP) AA 20/33-61%
9) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) A 18/32-56%
10) Shervyen Newton (SS) Kingsport 12/30-40%, Run-off with Anthony Kay 17/33-52%
11) Anthony Kay (LHP) AA 18/26-69%
12) Simeon Woods-Richardson (RHP) Kingsport 12/30-40%
Those first 12 are not a bad crop of young ballplayers. I guess Kilome has to be devalued for a season, and at least 1 of those LHP should work out. There's a couple of promising shortstops.
Trouble is....half this list is at Kingsport, moving up to Columbia.
1) Andres Gimenez (SS) AA 19/37 votes- 51%
2) Peter Alonso (1B) AAA 24/36 votes- 67%
3) Jarred Kelenic (CF) Kingsport 31/36-86%
4) Ronny Mauricio (SS) Kingsport 12/33-36%
5) Justin Dunn (RHP) AA 10/37-27%, Run-off with Mark Vientos 17/30-57%
6) Mark Vientos (3b) Kingsport 16/31-52%
7) David Peterson (LHP) A+ 21/31- 68%
8) Franklyn Kilome (RHP) AA 20/33-61%
9) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) A 18/32-56%
10) Shervyen Newton (SS) Kingsport 12/30-40%, Run-off with Anthony Kay 17/33-52%
11) Anthony Kay (LHP) AA 18/26-69%
12) Simeon Woods-Richardson (RHP) Kingsport 12/30-40%
Kilome would have dropped down a bit had the TJ news come before the ranking. Not a ton but as far as 12 I would think
on a post that mentioned signing Machado, signing Ramos, and dumping Frazier and Bruce. Guessing that's already a bad look with somebody like Fraizer who he has represented and has a relationship with.
I expect an active Mets offseason. A bunch of teams are going to be "in on" many of the big players and I don't believe there is such a thing as a realistic target, really for any team, unless they are a lesser talent.
Colon was really, really bad last year. I can't even advocate signing him for depth. 5.47 FIP. Fun to watch but pass. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/colonba01.shtml
But I have a feeling BVW is going to be a bit like Omar this offseason and make a splash early and in this particular case Im ok with it (three aces together and in their primes and half a lineup of young position player prospects to build around its now or never)
The Mets payroll has had the ability to go up higher than its been for years now IMO, and it simply wasn't Sandy's philosophy to max out the payroll or dole out a bunch of long term contracts. We can hate Sandy all we want but there's virtually zero contracts on the books after 2020 which is nice. Ill never understand why fans think think every single teams payroll is their absolute max in which they can spend. You do have to allow flexibility in case a guy goes down to injury or you intend to extend or pay some of your own players eventually.
Things might tilt back the other way now though (zero chance BVW takes this job without payroll spending assurances) but hell after so many years of losing, Im ready for it. Let's just hope in 5 years we aren't in payroll hell ala Omar all over again.
Colon was really, really bad last year. I can't even advocate signing him for depth. 5.47 FIP. Fun to watch but pass. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/colonba01.shtml
Yeah no thanks on Colon. If you look at Vargas's numbers after his first 3-4 starts in which he had no ST (was pitching in front of a net?), he pitched pretty much exactly like the 5th starter you would want.
IOW, he didn't draft them, it's not even like a guy hired/promoted from within where he was part of the team making the selection and grooming the prospects.
He has no loyalty to any of them and could trade all of them.
And as much as it scares me because I feel better about the farm system than any time in my recent memory even when it was rated top 10, it may actually be for the best.
I'm sort of conservative wrt prospects and my ideal scenario is to see them all kept and developed and debut a home grown roster that wins a title (to an extent), but maybe a fresh approach with zero emotional investment can turn prospects into young players with potential or turn prospects into established young players.
I suspect BVW is going to have a lot of "coaching" when it comes to prospects being traded. He's coming into this somewhat late to somehow be able to really scout/value the prospects. I'm sure that's going to be where guys like Omar/Tanous come in and not really related to "ties" to a prospect. Also as an agent I'm sure he's seen more of the top guys more than you think (at least the non IFA kids).
RE: The one thing that scares me a little bit out BVW
IOW, he didn't draft them, it's not even like a guy hired/promoted from within where he was part of the team making the selection and grooming the prospects.
He has no loyalty to any of them and could trade all of them.
And as much as it scares me because I feel better about the farm system than any time in my recent memory even when it was rated top 10, it may actually be for the best.
I'm sort of conservative wrt prospects and my ideal scenario is to see them all kept and developed and debut a home grown roster that wins a title (to an extent), but maybe a fresh approach with zero emotional investment can turn prospects into young players with potential or turn prospects into established young players.
Should be an interesting off-season.
He was talking up Alonso almost the second he walked in the door so Im guessing he has some knowledge. I agree though.
From there it gets muddy. We likely have conversations with Machado, Harper, and just about every other premium player. If those guys go off the board quick will BVW strike on a Donaldson as a backup plan? Will he go hard after a catcher? Who knows.
I'd probably be ok with a Realmuto, Herrera, Donaldson offseason but that's probably close to the minimum.
Teddy was saying last year (and I think Shecky mentioned it too)
We could get Realmuto for "less than Gimenez". If that's possible, I think we have to pull the trigger. Realmuto's numbers away from the cavernous Marlins park over the last three years are close to elite for catching standards. He'd be the best catcher we've had since Piazza and its not close.
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nats and marlins haven't closed door on Realmuto, so there could still be talks until Tuesday. last we heard, nats would consider including Robles or possibly kieboom, and marlins sought both for baseball's best catcher.
Bowden claims the Nats budged and the Marlins still said no
"Thats what has been reported by Jim Bowden (though no other insiders have confirmed yet): Realmuto for outfielder Vctor Robles and catcher Spencer Kieboom. The offer was proposed by the Nationals last weekend and rejected by the Fish."
is a 0% chance that is accurate. Marlins turned down Robles and Kieboom from the Nats. Robles is a top 10 prospect in the game.
Yeah at that time Jeter was vocal about re-signing him so was likely only interested in a deal if he was bowled over. Now Realmuto is demanding a trade (as I predicted) so things are likely different.
Miami has reportedly declined two deals from the Washington Nationals, first a package built around teenage phenom Juan Soto last offseason and then a Vctor Robles/Spencer Kieboom package prior to the July trade deadline. With two more years under arbitration eligibility before becoming a free agent as the best player at his position, his value could be hard to decipher.
So no, the Mets would not be landing Realmuto for less than Gimenez. It's not even close to reality.
not looking to argue but they control him for 2 seasons and "most" teams in baseball would be bidding therefore his price would still be insanely high.
up Gimenez for Realmuto anyway. Dont see a place for him on an upcoming team anyway with Rosario at SS and Mauricio will be right behind him in a year or two.
Teddy's tie (Im not at liberty to say who) is as high up as it gets so I wouldnt discount that it was true, at least at some point. Obviously, things change daily.
Mets would do that trade in a millisecond. It's nowhere near enough. Realmuto is a top 3 player at his position, cheap, controlled and the best athlete at the C position in the game. He will bring back 2 premium prospects and likely a 3rd decent one.
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For the Mets, a coaching shakeup. Per source: Pat Roessler is out as hitting coach. Bullpen coach Ricky Bones is being reassigned within the organization. Bench coach Gary DiSarcina and first-base coach Ruben Amaro Jr. also may not return, though that's not yet certain.
to disagree. We can come back to this later. You believe he can be had for "less than" Gimenez a top 40-50 prospect in baseball. I am suggesting he costs at least 2 such players let alone "less than". If moved we will see who was closer to the truth.
to disagree. We can come back to this later. You believe he can be had for "less than" Gimenez a top 40-50 prospect in baseball. I am suggesting he costs at least 2 such players let alone "less than". If moved we will see who was closer to the truth.
Im not saying he wouldnt cost two good prospects. I was simply mentioning that it was mentioned to me by two people I trust he could be had for a package not including Gimenez at some point last season.
The Marlins are now looking to trade him ala Ozuna and Yelich last offseason. Maybe they get a great package. Maybe they dont. Everybody thought Yelich would bring back a ton and although they got one very good prospect in Brinson they didn't get much else. I could see two top 100 prospects one being a top 50, the other top 100 but two top 40-50 guys would be interesting.
Unless Mets are willing to spend for Harper (unlikely)
Id just as soon see them play it by ear and see how the team does first half.
Deadline trades are way less costly these days. So I would see how the team does before trading away prospects.
They finished 45-37. If they play like that, then pull the trigger in July. Big mistake the last couple of years has been signing too many mid level deals. Sign closer and let the young guys play
And I do know Diaz and Harrison were top 150 guys too
"Jason: The Braves surplus of pitching talent is starting to cause a logjam. Whom do you trade assuming its an outfield slugger or established #1 type starter ? Would you start a package w soroka or Wright ?
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Kiley McDaniel: I think J.T. Realmuto would be the big fish if they made a big move. I wouldnt trade those guys, but a Realmuto trade would have to have 1-2 uncomfortable names included."
The Mets do not have 1-2 "uncomfortable names" to give up sans Gimenez/Alonso. It's those 2 and a drop-off.
and Dunn. Maybe they'd be interested in a third piece like Dom Smith as a bounce back. That's as high as I would go though.
Alonso to me is borderline untouchable at this point. 1B prospects are rarely going to be at the top of 100 lists because offense is "expected" and these guys usually aren't very athletic or have a lot of other intangibles to rate off of, but Alonso's bat is very exciting and its close.
We haven't had a true power prospect like his in some time and the position is open for him.
Large, bulky body with elite strength in both halves. Solid athlete for his size; body will require maintenance in future.
Swing Mechanics - Even, shoulder-width extended set-up, bent knees, hands low, bat across shoulder. Leg raise, average stride, quiet load up behind ear, legs engaged, natural loft in bat path, excellent extension. Bat speed, hands, timing to impact baseball.
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Looks to damage and does; comes with swing-and-miss. Plus barrel-feel on anything hard; vulnerable to spin away. Solid approach; doesn't expand early-count, can take a walk. Two-strike approach needs work, doesn't shorten up. Will strikeout and walk.
Game Power 60 70
Murders fastballs middle-in and up out over plate; waits on and punishes hangers up in zone. Pull-heavy at present; some vulnerability soft away, but has feel for barrel. Half-grade projection with adjustments to tap opposite field power.
Raw Power 70 70
Elite strength, plus bat speed, elevated bat path, and leg engagement all work together for top-scale pull power and ability to go out to all fields.
Run 40 30
Not a clogger; down the line at 4.45; will lose a step with age. Station-to-station on bases.
Field 50 45
Compensates for below-average lateral mobility and stiff fielding actions with plus hands. Will cost outs on dirt, save outs with scooping ability at bag. With age, good enough to stick at fringe-average.
Throw 50 50
Accuracy and strength to make solid DP throw to 2nd; makes throw across diamond on line.
just had a game which was the epitome of what we can likely expect. Drilled a homer off Pearson (still bummed we took Peterson over him) on a 103 MPH FB, made a very nice diving stop, but also couldn't bend at 1b on a pretty routine throw from Gimenez and the winning run scored.
just had a game which was the epitome of what we can likely expect. Drilled a homer off Pearson (still bummed we took Peterson over him) on a 103 MPH FB, made a very nice diving stop, but also couldn't bend at 1b on a pretty routine throw from Gimenez and the winning run scored.
Yeah saw that. Actually, heard it was 104 mph and that no other player, majors or otherwise, has hit a HR off a pitch that was that fast in recorded Statcast history. Pretty cool.
Also 1 of the biggest things to keep in mind is that 1 of the major reasons Realmuto has so much $ value is his contract. Do we really want to give up talent value (prospects) for $ value? To me that is highly inefficient.
Sign Ramos or Lucroy to combo with Plawecki. Or see if KC is looking to sell Perez. His defensive metrics supposedly declined a little bit this past year, but for the right deal I'd roll the dice.
I wouldn't be interested in Realmuto if it cost mets top prospects, but if it was Alonso as the center piece I'd do it.
Alonso may have prodigious power, but that's not how today's MLB world series are won.
So, I doubt that gets it done for the Mets, but I wouldn't trade much more
Maybe the market dries up and the Mets benefit, but you also don't need the best catcher in the league. The Red Sox catchers all had lower fWAR than the Mets catchers.
I wouldn't be interested in Realmuto if it cost mets top prospects, but if it was Alonso as the center piece I'd do it.
Alonso may have prodigious power, but that's not how today's MLB world series are won.
So, I doubt that gets it done for the Mets, but I wouldn't trade much more
Maybe the market dries up and the Mets benefit, but you also don't need the best catcher in the league. The Red Sox catchers all had lower fWAR than the Mets catchers.
Leon did have a borderline GG season for the Sox though. Here's a pretty good write-up from Mark Simon on the trend of top defensive backup catchers, that's the type of guy I'd personally be looking to pair with Plawecki as opposed to dealing prospects. There's a pretty healthy number of FA who graded out better than Realmuto defensively.
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The thing about baseballs best defensive catchers in 2018 was that they didnt play a lot. Of the five who had the most Defensive Runs Saved, only one (Mike Zunino, who wasnt a finalist) was an everyday catcher. Teams are going to much more of a platoon system. Ten years ago, 23 catchers made 90 starts. This year, only 15 did.
If youre going just by skill and factoring out playing time, Jeff Mathis of the Diamondbacks (17 Defensive Runs Saved, best pitch-blocker in MLB) and Sandy Leon of the Red Sox (12 DRS), probably should have won. If were picking among the finalists, Buster Posey (10 DRS) and Martin Maldonado (3 DRS), both previous winners, were arguably better choices.
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If the 2 leaders are within 5% of each other, or the leader has less than 35% there will be a run-off between the top 2. If a run-off results in a tie the tiebreaker will be vote total in the previous poll, we will continue to "go back" in the polls until there is a clear leader.
*Jeff McNeil is ineligible
*Chris Flexen is ineligible
1) Andres Gimenez (SS) AA 19/37 votes- 51%
2) Peter Alonso (1B) AAA 24/36 votes- 67%
3) Jarred Kelenic (CF) Kingsport 31/36-86%
4) Ronny Mauricio (SS) Kingsport 12/33-36%
5) Justin Dunn (RHP) AA 10/37-27%, Run-off with Mark Vientos 17/30-57%
6) Mark Vientos (3b) Kingsport 16/31-52%
7) David Peterson (LHP) A+ 21/31- 68%
8) Franklyn Kilome (RHP) AA 20/33-61%
9) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) A 18/32-56%
10) Shervyen Newton (SS) Kingsport 12/30-40%, Run-off with Anthony Kay 17/33-52%
11) Anthony Kay (LHP) AA 18/26-69%
12) Simeon Woods-Richardson (RHP) Kingsport 12/30-40%
13) Luis Santana (2B) 15/26-58%
14) Will Toffey (3B) 10/29-34%, run-off with Cecchini 15/27-56%
15) Gavin Cecchini (2b) 14/26-46%
16) Francisco Alvarez (C) 9/26-35%
17) Dez Lindsay (OF) 7/18-39%
18) Tony Dibrell (RHP) 9/23-39%
19) Jordan Humphreys (RHP) 7/21-33%, Run-off with Nido 18/24-75%
20) Ross Adolph (OF) 6/25-24%, run-off with Nido 18/25-72%
21) Adam Hill (RHP) 4/26-15%, Run-off with Nido/Crismatt 11/26-58%
22) Junior Santos (RHP) 6/28-21%, Run-off with Nido 11/20-55%
23) Tomas Nido (C) 10/23-43%
24) Luis Guillorme (SS) 9/24-38%
25) Adrian Hernandez 6/26-23%, run-off with Wahl/Cortes 8/15-53%
26) Carlos Cortes (2b) 8/21-38%
I missed his presser and haven't read or seen much since.
I missed his presser and haven't read or seen much since.
Not particularly. No knock on BVW at all but he's simply parroted buzzwords. Back to winning, stronger up the middle. Thus far there has been absolutely zero hint of targets or play (not a criticism) rather there just hasn't been anything to go on.
Trouble is....half this list is at Kingsport, moving up to Columbia.
1) Andres Gimenez (SS) AA 19/37 votes- 51%
2) Peter Alonso (1B) AAA 24/36 votes- 67%
3) Jarred Kelenic (CF) Kingsport 31/36-86%
4) Ronny Mauricio (SS) Kingsport 12/33-36%
5) Justin Dunn (RHP) AA 10/37-27%, Run-off with Mark Vientos 17/30-57%
6) Mark Vientos (3b) Kingsport 16/31-52%
7) David Peterson (LHP) A+ 21/31- 68%
8) Franklyn Kilome (RHP) AA 20/33-61%
9) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) A 18/32-56%
10) Shervyen Newton (SS) Kingsport 12/30-40%, Run-off with Anthony Kay 17/33-52%
11) Anthony Kay (LHP) AA 18/26-69%
12) Simeon Woods-Richardson (RHP) Kingsport 12/30-40%
Trouble is....half this list is at Kingsport, moving up to Columbia.
1) Andres Gimenez (SS) AA 19/37 votes- 51%
2) Peter Alonso (1B) AAA 24/36 votes- 67%
3) Jarred Kelenic (CF) Kingsport 31/36-86%
4) Ronny Mauricio (SS) Kingsport 12/33-36%
5) Justin Dunn (RHP) AA 10/37-27%, Run-off with Mark Vientos 17/30-57%
6) Mark Vientos (3b) Kingsport 16/31-52%
7) David Peterson (LHP) A+ 21/31- 68%
8) Franklyn Kilome (RHP) AA 20/33-61%
9) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) A 18/32-56%
10) Shervyen Newton (SS) Kingsport 12/30-40%, Run-off with Anthony Kay 17/33-52%
11) Anthony Kay (LHP) AA 18/26-69%
12) Simeon Woods-Richardson (RHP) Kingsport 12/30-40%
Kilome would have dropped down a bit had the TJ news come before the ranking. Not a ton but as far as 12 I would think
I expect an active Mets offseason. A bunch of teams are going to be "in on" many of the big players and I don't believe there is such a thing as a realistic target, really for any team, unless they are a lesser talent.
Just need to sit back and watch it unfold.
The Mets payroll has had the ability to go up higher than its been for years now IMO, and it simply wasn't Sandy's philosophy to max out the payroll or dole out a bunch of long term contracts. We can hate Sandy all we want but there's virtually zero contracts on the books after 2020 which is nice. Ill never understand why fans think think every single teams payroll is their absolute max in which they can spend. You do have to allow flexibility in case a guy goes down to injury or you intend to extend or pay some of your own players eventually.
Things might tilt back the other way now though (zero chance BVW takes this job without payroll spending assurances) but hell after so many years of losing, Im ready for it. Let's just hope in 5 years we aren't in payroll hell ala Omar all over again.
Yeah no thanks on Colon. If you look at Vargas's numbers after his first 3-4 starts in which he had no ST (was pitching in front of a net?), he pitched pretty much exactly like the 5th starter you would want.
IOW, he didn't draft them, it's not even like a guy hired/promoted from within where he was part of the team making the selection and grooming the prospects.
He has no loyalty to any of them and could trade all of them.
And as much as it scares me because I feel better about the farm system than any time in my recent memory even when it was rated top 10, it may actually be for the best.
I'm sort of conservative wrt prospects and my ideal scenario is to see them all kept and developed and debut a home grown roster that wins a title (to an extent), but maybe a fresh approach with zero emotional investment can turn prospects into young players with potential or turn prospects into established young players.
Should be an interesting off-season.
IOW, he didn't draft them, it's not even like a guy hired/promoted from within where he was part of the team making the selection and grooming the prospects.
He has no loyalty to any of them and could trade all of them.
And as much as it scares me because I feel better about the farm system than any time in my recent memory even when it was rated top 10, it may actually be for the best.
I'm sort of conservative wrt prospects and my ideal scenario is to see them all kept and developed and debut a home grown roster that wins a title (to an extent), but maybe a fresh approach with zero emotional investment can turn prospects into young players with potential or turn prospects into established young players.
Should be an interesting off-season.
He was talking up Alonso almost the second he walked in the door so Im guessing he has some knowledge. I agree though.
I'd probably be ok with a Realmuto, Herrera, Donaldson offseason but that's probably close to the minimum.
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nats and marlins haven't closed door on Realmuto, so there could still be talks until Tuesday. last we heard, nats would consider including Robles or possibly kieboom, and marlins sought both for baseball's best catcher.
Bowden claims the Nats budged and the Marlins still said no
"Thats what has been reported by Jim Bowden (though no other insiders have confirmed yet): Realmuto for outfielder Vctor Robles and catcher Spencer Kieboom. The offer was proposed by the Nationals last weekend and rejected by the Fish."
Yeah at that time Jeter was vocal about re-signing him so was likely only interested in a deal if he was bowled over. Now Realmuto is demanding a trade (as I predicted) so things are likely different.
So no, the Mets would not be landing Realmuto for less than Gimenez. It's not even close to reality.
Teddy's tie (Im not at liberty to say who) is as high up as it gets so I wouldnt discount that it was true, at least at some point. Obviously, things change daily.
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For the Mets, a coaching shakeup. Per source: Pat Roessler is out as hitting coach. Bullpen coach Ricky Bones is being reassigned within the organization. Bench coach Gary DiSarcina and first-base coach Ruben Amaro Jr. also may not return, though that's not yet certain.
Gimminez
Alonso
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I know people are not going to want to give up both Gim and Alonso but that is the only way I see it getting done
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Im not saying he wouldnt cost two good prospects. I was simply mentioning that it was mentioned to me by two people I trust he could be had for a package not including Gimenez at some point last season.
The Marlins are now looking to trade him ala Ozuna and Yelich last offseason. Maybe they get a great package. Maybe they dont. Everybody thought Yelich would bring back a ton and although they got one very good prospect in Brinson they didn't get much else. I could see two top 100 prospects one being a top 50, the other top 100 but two top 40-50 guys would be interesting.
Deadline trades are way less costly these days. So I would see how the team does before trading away prospects.
They finished 45-37. If they play like that, then pull the trigger in July. Big mistake the last couple of years has been signing too many mid level deals. Sign closer and let the young guys play
"Jason: The Braves surplus of pitching talent is starting to cause a logjam. Whom do you trade assuming its an outfield slugger or established #1 type starter ? Would you start a package w soroka or Wright ?
2:28
Kiley McDaniel: I think J.T. Realmuto would be the big fish if they made a big move. I wouldnt trade those guys, but a Realmuto trade would have to have 1-2 uncomfortable names included."
The Mets do not have 1-2 "uncomfortable names" to give up sans Gimenez/Alonso. It's those 2 and a drop-off.
Alonso to me is borderline untouchable at this point. 1B prospects are rarely going to be at the top of 100 lists because offense is "expected" and these guys usually aren't very athletic or have a lot of other intangibles to rate off of, but Alonso's bat is very exciting and its close.
We haven't had a true power prospect like his in some time and the position is open for him.
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Tool Present Future
Hit 45 50
Looks to damage and does; comes with swing-and-miss. Plus barrel-feel on anything hard; vulnerable to spin away. Solid approach; doesn't expand early-count, can take a walk. Two-strike approach needs work, doesn't shorten up. Will strikeout and walk.
Game Power 60 70
Murders fastballs middle-in and up out over plate; waits on and punishes hangers up in zone. Pull-heavy at present; some vulnerability soft away, but has feel for barrel. Half-grade projection with adjustments to tap opposite field power.
Raw Power 70 70
Elite strength, plus bat speed, elevated bat path, and leg engagement all work together for top-scale pull power and ability to go out to all fields.
Run 40 30
Not a clogger; down the line at 4.45; will lose a step with age. Station-to-station on bases.
Field 50 45
Compensates for below-average lateral mobility and stiff fielding actions with plus hands. Will cost outs on dirt, save outs with scooping ability at bag. With age, good enough to stick at fringe-average.
Throw 50 50
Accuracy and strength to make solid DP throw to 2nd; makes throw across diamond on line.
Yeah saw that. Actually, heard it was 104 mph and that no other player, majors or otherwise, has hit a HR off a pitch that was that fast in recorded Statcast history. Pretty cool.
Also 1 of the biggest things to keep in mind is that 1 of the major reasons Realmuto has so much $ value is his contract. Do we really want to give up talent value (prospects) for $ value? To me that is highly inefficient.
Sign Ramos or Lucroy to combo with Plawecki. Or see if KC is looking to sell Perez. His defensive metrics supposedly declined a little bit this past year, but for the right deal I'd roll the dice.
Alonso may have prodigious power, but that's not how today's MLB world series are won.
So, I doubt that gets it done for the Mets, but I wouldn't trade much more
Maybe the market dries up and the Mets benefit, but you also don't need the best catcher in the league. The Red Sox catchers all had lower fWAR than the Mets catchers.
My backup plan for catcher is Ramos. He can definitely still hit but at his age I only would want him on a two year deal if that's possible.
I think Grandal is going to cost way too much and his offense isnt "amazing" anyway and I think Lucroy is over the hill.
After Realmuto and Ramos, I probably just bring back TDA, as unexciting as that may be.
Alonso may have prodigious power, but that's not how today's MLB world series are won.
So, I doubt that gets it done for the Mets, but I wouldn't trade much more
Maybe the market dries up and the Mets benefit, but you also don't need the best catcher in the league. The Red Sox catchers all had lower fWAR than the Mets catchers.
Leon did have a borderline GG season for the Sox though. Here's a pretty good write-up from Mark Simon on the trend of top defensive backup catchers, that's the type of guy I'd personally be looking to pair with Plawecki as opposed to dealing prospects. There's a pretty healthy number of FA who graded out better than Realmuto defensively.
If youre going just by skill and factoring out playing time, Jeff Mathis of the Diamondbacks (17 Defensive Runs Saved, best pitch-blocker in MLB) and Sandy Leon of the Red Sox (12 DRS), probably should have won. If were picking among the finalists, Buster Posey (10 DRS) and Martin Maldonado (3 DRS), both previous winners, were arguably better choices.
Gold Glove selections are getting better, but not every winner was the most deserving ($) - ( New Window )
3 for 45 for Grandal
Not sure what Heyman was smoking when he put those together