So not the Mets style but I'd love to see them give Garrett Richards a 2 year deal (will miss 2019), both a lottery ticket and insurance should Wheeler leave via FA Link - ( New Window )
I'm kind of indifferent to him but I do think he'd be an upgrade. Can't imagine he has any aspirations to be a manager and he has a lot of experience in the NL.
honestly, i don't think the previous regime is rose-colored in their appraisal of how they did (from Sandy's "im not sure I deserve to come back" down). They were very good in trades, middle of the road with draft/player development, and poor at FA signings.
I also think Fisher's statement about being good at trades is kind of a coded nod to being more in control of their trade outcomes vs. FA outcomes (presumably since there were budget restrictions).
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I hear #Yankees and CC Sabathia are working thru final details of what, when finalized, would be a 1-yr, $8M deal. Hear Sabathia, in planned last season, didn't want to look around, wanted to quickly work out something with NYY.
But Im not getting a warm and fuzzy feeling that its hapoening. Tons of experience surrounding BVW,and a ton of advice. But Ricco is really the one that was most important to retain. At least in my opinion.
RE: In an hour Ricco could announce hes returning andpromoted
But Im not getting a warm and fuzzy feeling that its hapoening. Tons of experience surrounding BVW,and a ton of advice. But Ricco is really the one that was most important to retain. At least in my opinion.
Why do you say that? The guy has been here forever and seems like a wet blanket. What does he do well behind the scenes that no one talks about?
taking a shot at ZGiants at all here but I just spoke to someone with ties to a team that has already called the Marlins and he said the price on Realmuto remains "extremely high" so "less than Gimenez" simply isn't accurate.
You can sign a big name just money. Oh, and a pick and intl money. Machado is free, Harper and Grandal etc are more expensive
Trade the farm for a Realmuto. Will have to sign him, so costs money are your farm
Take on another teams salary dump aka Stanton type. Cost you money only. Keep your prospects.
Each has its pros and cons - keep this in mind before you say trade for player X or sign player Y. Is Realmuto better than X? Is he prospect A and B better? Etc etc.
to go all in on Machado. Then i'd go hard after Edwin Diaz from the Mariners if they truly are in firesale mode or Felipe Vazquez from Pirates. Machado contracf you can structure in a way that makes in tenable to absorb and hopefully Brodie can sell the benefits of playing in NYC, especially if Yanks aren't going to pursue him (which I wouldn't if I were them since they already have a ton of RH power)
Theres lots of pros to having lots of help around. But some cons too, lots of opinions lol
None of us are BVW. But what I would do immediately if I were him. Go out and make a couple transactions literally for the sake of making moves. Sign a bunch of ML FA. Ask the Rays what it would take for an Andrew Velazquez and make the trade. Go through the process. Let everyone know youre ready let your advisors know you got this. Youre in charge.
especially with the young pitching they have coming up. I think the Nats are in decline, I don't think the Phillies are that great, they have some pieces but missing some elite players which is why the Mets need to beat them to Machado
Marlins think they can get astros to budge on Whitley in a Realmuto trade, which if happens, thats an insane trade. I doubt it does, but crazy that they even think its possible.
how good a prospect was Preston Wilson when we traded him for Piazza.
He was considered a potential star if it all came together tools wise but plate discipline was a major concern. Was kind of disappointing for a while, then put up a huge half season in St. Lucie which boosted his stock. All in all he ended up roughly what the best realistic case scenario was. Goetz went 6th overall in 1997. On paper the Marlins did well in the Piazza trade. Obviously it didn't work out.
30/30 guy one year, averaged 25 HR's 20 SB's with them. OPS'd probably averaged .825.
Mookie Wilson's nephew, right?
Preston Wilson, Jay Payton, Jason Tyner...the Mets had some good OF prospects back in that era (unless I'm confusing the timing on some of them).
Preston was both Mookie's nephew and step son lol
Preston James Richard Wilson (born July 19, 1974) is a former professional baseball center fielder. He played all or part of ten seasons in Major League Baseball from 19982007. He is both the nephew and stepson of former New York Mets outfielder Mookie Wilson. (Mookie married Preston's mother after his brother fathered Preston.)[1]
Like it very much. Don't love giving up the 2nd round pick and a huge contract, but certainly wouldn't complain. It's certainly still a good value compared to the expected price on Realmuto, and Grandal grades out better defensively with a very similar power/OBP profile.
Like it very much. Don't love giving up the 2nd round pick and a huge contract, but certainly wouldn't complain. It's certainly still a good value compared to the expected price on Realmuto, and Grandal grades out better defensively with a very similar power/OBP profile.
Is Grandal good defensivey? Ive heard conflicting stuff on him. Hed certainly be a nice bat to add.
he was terrible in the postseason but by most metrics he's been good
+26 DRS combined the past 2 seasons (3rd best over that period of time).
Only had 9 passed balls and 7 errors last year.
Pretty decent CS%.
His pitch framing has graded out among the best in baseball.
Certainly better than Realmuto who doesn't seem to be particularly well rated defensively.
his overall fangraphs D metrics were good but slightly regressed this year and like I said he had a bad postseason that got him benched, but his numbers were still ahead of Realmuto. Yasmani Grandal Is Doing It Again - ( New Window )
be really upset moving Conforto or Nimmo for Realmuto when both Grandal and Ramos are available.
agreed. completely counterproductive. I'd even be annoyed by moving Gimenez. Alonso is as far as I'd go but only if they're really afraid of his D.
I wouldn't even consider moving Nimmo/Conforto if Ramos/Grandal are off the board. Nimmo and Conforto are part of the core. They need them. I would move Gimenez but if we did I'd want to know they were willing to spend enough to lock up Realmuto, DeGrom and Wheeler when the time came (and improve the roster) or why bother?
RE: here's an article on his pitch framing from 2017
his overall fangraphs D metrics were good but slightly regressed this year and like I said he had a bad postseason that got him benched, but his numbers were still ahead of Realmuto. Yasmani Grandal Is Doing It Again - ( New Window )
Thanks for posting that.
He seems perfect for a 2 year deal but I imagine itll take at least 3 years.
be really upset moving Conforto or Nimmo for Realmuto when both Grandal and Ramos are available.
agreed. completely counterproductive. I'd even be annoyed by moving Gimenez. Alonso is as far as I'd go but only if they're really afraid of his D.
I wouldn't even consider moving Nimmo/Conforto if Ramos/Grandal are off the board. Nimmo and Conforto are part of the core. They need them. I would move Gimenez but if we did I'd want to know they were willing to spend enough to lock up Realmuto, DeGrom and Wheeler when the time came (and improve the roster) or why bother?
Honestly, I think a good argument can be made the best move at C is a more budget efficient pickup like Maldonado or Lucroy in combo with Plawecki since we know the payroll isn't limitless even if it goes up.
for example I'd personally prefer Lucory/Maldonado + the extra money go after someone like Andrew Miller over an expensive catcher and then potentially settling for a 1 year flier RP which we know is likely to be a Blevins type.
RE: RE: here's an article on his pitch framing from 2017
his overall fangraphs D metrics were good but slightly regressed this year and like I said he had a bad postseason that got him benched, but his numbers were still ahead of Realmuto. Yasmani Grandal Is Doing It Again - ( New Window )
Thanks for posting that.
He seems perfect for a 2 year deal but I imagine itll take at least 3 years.
Yea some even say 4.
I read, on another board, that Chilli Davis is a name on the Mets list
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Brodie Van Wagenen on the bullpen: "I cant imagine we would be looking for a one-and-done situation. I think our goal would be to add multiple pieces that can help us.
taking a shot at ZGiants at all here but I just spoke to someone with ties to a team that has already called the Marlins and he said the price on Realmuto remains "extremely high" so "less than Gimenez" simply isn't accurate.
This is a false accusation. I said at some point last year, a persons's source said it could take less than Gimenez. I didn't suggest that was said today or in the last week and specifically said asks change daily.
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Bring in a legitimate catcher that can also hit... and bring in just one more bat after that that's not somebody shitty like DJLM... but a real hitter, and Im pretty much there.
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I also think Fisher's statement about being good at trades is kind of a coded nod to being more in control of their trade outcomes vs. FA outcomes (presumably since there were budget restrictions).
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I hear #Yankees and CC Sabathia are working thru final details of what, when finalized, would be a 1-yr, $8M deal. Hear Sabathia, in planned last season, didn't want to look around, wanted to quickly work out something with NYY.
Why do you say that? The guy has been here forever and seems like a wet blanket. What does he do well behind the scenes that no one talks about?
Trade the farm for a Realmuto. Will have to sign him, so costs money are your farm
Take on another teams salary dump aka Stanton type. Cost you money only. Keep your prospects.
Each has its pros and cons - keep this in mind before you say trade for player X or sign player Y. Is Realmuto better than X? Is he prospect A and B better? Etc etc.
None of us are BVW. But what I would do immediately if I were him. Go out and make a couple transactions literally for the sake of making moves. Sign a bunch of ML FA. Ask the Rays what it would take for an Andrew Velazquez and make the trade. Go through the process. Let everyone know youre ready let your advisors know you got this. Youre in charge.
Yup. Today's NYPOST suggested that would be the cost. One of Nimmo and Conforto as part of the deal.
Braves have the pitching, makes sense. Assuming its Touki +,hes a local kid.
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Pete,
That must be his old account
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He was considered a potential star if it all came together tools wise but plate discipline was a major concern. Was kind of disappointing for a while, then put up a huge half season in St. Lucie which boosted his stock. All in all he ended up roughly what the best realistic case scenario was. Goetz went 6th overall in 1997. On paper the Marlins did well in the Piazza trade. Obviously it didn't work out.
30/30 guy one year, averaged 25 HR's 20 SB's with them. OPS'd probably averaged .825.
Mookie Wilson's nephew, right?
Preston Wilson, Jay Payton, Jason Tyner...the Mets had some good OF prospects back in that era (unless I'm confusing the timing on some of them).
Yanell was the big piece to that trade, lefty starter.
Wilson at the time was the type of prospect Mets fans always ski for, toolsy as could be
30/30 guy one year, averaged 25 HR's 20 SB's with them. OPS'd probably averaged .825.
Mookie Wilson's nephew, right?
Preston Wilson, Jay Payton, Jason Tyner...the Mets had some good OF prospects back in that era (unless I'm confusing the timing on some of them).
Preston was both Mookie's nephew and step son lol
Preston James Richard Wilson (born July 19, 1974) is a former professional baseball center fielder. He played all or part of ten seasons in Major League Baseball from 19982007. He is both the nephew and stepson of former New York Mets outfielder Mookie Wilson. (Mookie married Preston's mother after his brother fathered Preston.)[1]
Like it very much. Don't love giving up the 2nd round pick and a huge contract, but certainly wouldn't complain. It's certainly still a good value compared to the expected price on Realmuto, and Grandal grades out better defensively with a very similar power/OBP profile.
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have expressed interest in Miller and Grandal
Like it very much. Don't love giving up the 2nd round pick and a huge contract, but certainly wouldn't complain. It's certainly still a good value compared to the expected price on Realmuto, and Grandal grades out better defensively with a very similar power/OBP profile.
Is Grandal good defensivey? Ive heard conflicting stuff on him. Hed certainly be a nice bat to add.
Only had 9 passed balls and 7 errors last year.
Pretty decent CS%.
His pitch framing has graded out among the best in baseball.
Certainly better than Realmuto who doesn't seem to be particularly well rated defensively.
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agreed. completely counterproductive. I'd even be annoyed by moving Gimenez. Alonso is as far as I'd go but only if they're really afraid of his D.
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be really upset moving Conforto or Nimmo for Realmuto when both Grandal and Ramos are available.
agreed. completely counterproductive. I'd even be annoyed by moving Gimenez. Alonso is as far as I'd go but only if they're really afraid of his D.
I wouldn't even consider moving Nimmo/Conforto if Ramos/Grandal are off the board. Nimmo and Conforto are part of the core. They need them. I would move Gimenez but if we did I'd want to know they were willing to spend enough to lock up Realmuto, DeGrom and Wheeler when the time came (and improve the roster) or why bother?
Thanks for posting that.
He seems perfect for a 2 year deal but I imagine itll take at least 3 years.
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be really upset moving Conforto or Nimmo for Realmuto when both Grandal and Ramos are available.
agreed. completely counterproductive. I'd even be annoyed by moving Gimenez. Alonso is as far as I'd go but only if they're really afraid of his D.
I wouldn't even consider moving Nimmo/Conforto if Ramos/Grandal are off the board. Nimmo and Conforto are part of the core. They need them. I would move Gimenez but if we did I'd want to know they were willing to spend enough to lock up Realmuto, DeGrom and Wheeler when the time came (and improve the roster) or why bother?
Honestly, I think a good argument can be made the best move at C is a more budget efficient pickup like Maldonado or Lucroy in combo with Plawecki since we know the payroll isn't limitless even if it goes up.
for example I'd personally prefer Lucory/Maldonado + the extra money go after someone like Andrew Miller over an expensive catcher and then potentially settling for a 1 year flier RP which we know is likely to be a Blevins type.
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his overall fangraphs D metrics were good but slightly regressed this year and like I said he had a bad postseason that got him benched, but his numbers were still ahead of Realmuto. Yasmani Grandal Is Doing It Again - ( New Window )
Thanks for posting that.
He seems perfect for a 2 year deal but I imagine itll take at least 3 years.
Yea some even say 4.
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Brodie Van Wagenen on the bullpen: "I cant imagine we would be looking for a one-and-done situation. I think our goal would be to add multiple pieces that can help us.
This is a false accusation. I said at some point last year, a persons's source said it could take less than Gimenez. I didn't suggest that was said today or in the last week and specifically said asks change daily.
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