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NFL Considering Opting out of Sunday Ticket Deal

jlukes : 11/5/2018 5:36 pm
They're analyzing streaming data and may end the exclusive relationship with Direct TV.

Wouldn't go into effect until after the 2019 season, if they decide to pull the plug.
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What do you pay for an online movie?  
Doomster : 11/5/2018 5:40 pm : link
Why should an NFL game cost more?
They should not limit  
section125 : 11/5/2018 5:43 pm : link
it to one provider. I wish they would do like MLB and allow you to buy your team only. thru NFL.com
They know that  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/5/2018 5:46 pm : link
If they offer a lower price point way more people will subscribe to a digital model. Similar to what WWE did.

I don’t think 9.99 is going to be the offering, but I could see a 20 dollar price point work.

They don’t need DirecTv to distribute it. Cut the middle man and make all the profit.
Probably smart business.  
Pete in MD : 11/5/2018 5:47 pm : link
People have soured on the all or nothing aspect of Sunday Ticket. The NFL needs to change with the times.
There was a glitch this past Sunday  
Stan in LA : 11/5/2018 5:48 pm : link
There was a banner across all games that said "to get this game pay $49.00." The game was going on in the background. Don't know if it was 49 for that particular game or 49 for all the games. Direct TV said it was an error.
Hope they have an option to combine it with GamePass...  
Dan in the Springs : 11/5/2018 5:48 pm : link
even if they raise the price for it. I'll be very happy to pay extra and keep both.
I wonder how many subscribers  
Diver_Down : 11/5/2018 5:53 pm : link
of DirecTv get it just for the Sunday Ticket? Overall, it is a horrible, overpriced service independent of the ST package.
RE: I wonder how many subscribers  
Mdgiantsfan : 11/5/2018 6:15 pm : link
In comment 14166050 Diver_Down said:
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of DirecTv get it just for the Sunday Ticket? Overall, it is a horrible, overpriced service independent of the ST package.


I finally let go of Directv this year. Got tired of paying more, plus last year I think I needed the Ticket to watch Big Blue twice last year. They were on network tv here in MD all other weeks.
RE: RE: I wonder how many subscribers  
Diver_Down : 11/5/2018 6:26 pm : link
In comment 14166069 Mdgiantsfan said:
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In comment 14166050 Diver_Down said:


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of DirecTv get it just for the Sunday Ticket? Overall, it is a horrible, overpriced service independent of the ST package.



I finally let go of Directv this year. Got tired of paying more, plus last year I think I needed the Ticket to watch Big Blue twice last year. They were on network tv here in MD all other weeks.


I was a loyal customer dating back to the days of PrimeStar. Initially, it was due to geographic location. But going back to the 90's, you had to brush snow off the dish. Or a really bad rain storm would interfere, etc. Got rid of them, and wound up going back due to a great promo deal. Still the same shit with rain/wind. Plus, they couldn't use the same mounting bracket on my roof from my previous install so they had to install a new bracket. Now, I stream the games with mostly no problem. Been doing it for 3 years. Much easier and cheaper than the albatross of shitty service with DirecTv.
RE: There was a glitch this past Sunday  
Banks : 11/5/2018 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14166045 Stan in LA said:
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There was a banner across all games that said "to get this game pay $49.00." The game was going on in the background. Don't know if it was 49 for that particular game or 49 for all the games. Direct TV said it was an error.

An email went out to claim a refund. Hope you grabbed it.
Agree with others  
pjcas18 : 11/5/2018 6:43 pm : link
NFL should do what the other sports do and make it as an add-on for every provider.

Even do it game by game vs entire season for out of market games.

It's kind of what I do now. I pay week by week essentially.
Yeah just like MLBTV  
jpetuch : 11/5/2018 6:59 pm : link
I pay 119.00 a year and get the whole season out of market via the ROKU app. DirectTV needs to get their act together but since they are just small piece of ATT they will let it continue to crumble.
RE: RE: There was a glitch this past Sunday  
Stan in LA : 11/5/2018 7:06 pm : link
In comment 14166094 Banks said:
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In comment 14166045 Stan in LA said:


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There was a banner across all games that said "to get this game pay $49.00." The game was going on in the background. Don't know if it was 49 for that particular game or 49 for all the games. Direct TV said it was an error.


An email went out to claim a refund. Hope you grabbed it.


yeah. Here's the e-mail.
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You may have experienced problems during Sunday’s NFL SUNDAY TICKET broadcast. While the problems have been resolved, the fact is we made a mistake. We’re truly sorry.
We love our football as much as you do, and our goal is to make sure that you can watch your favorite team – whenever and however you want. To help make this right, we’re giving you the NFL SUNDAY TICKET MAX experience by adding the RED ZONE CHANNEL® AND DIRECTV FANTASY ZONE® CHANNEL to your existing service for the remainder of this season at no cost to you.
We will also provide a refund if you bought an NFL SUNDAY TICKET pay-per-day pass on 10/28. There’s nothing you need to do and all credits will be automatically applied to your account within one to two billing cycles.
Again, we’re very sorry for your gameday experience last weekend.


So they are selling a 'pay per day' pass? Who knew?
That was the only thing keeping me with DirecTV.  
Brown Recluse : 11/5/2018 7:31 pm : link
I was a customer of theirs for probably about 17 years and I just dropped them a few months ago for streaming. I dont miss it at all. I watch everything I watched before for much less, and if the Giants arent on locally or nationally, I just stream the game too.
RE: RE: RE: There was a glitch this past Sunday  
Banks : 11/5/2018 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14166119 Stan in LA said:
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yeah. Here's the e-mail.

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You may have experienced problems during Sunday’s NFL SUNDAY TICKET broadcast. While the problems have been resolved, the fact is we made a mistake. We’re truly sorry.
We love our football as much as you do, and our goal is to make sure that you can watch your favorite team – whenever and however you want. To help make this right, we’re giving you the NFL SUNDAY TICKET MAX experience by adding the RED ZONE CHANNEL® AND DIRECTV FANTASY ZONE® CHANNEL to your existing service for the remainder of this season at no cost to you.
We will also provide a refund if you bought an NFL SUNDAY TICKET pay-per-day pass on 10/28. There’s nothing you need to do and all credits will be automatically applied to your account within one to two billing cycles.
Again, we’re very sorry for your gameday experience last weekend.


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So they are selling a 'pay per day' pass? Who knew?

I should have read more thoroughly. I already pay for MAX and I hope that amount has been refunded too. I get it solely for my dad to watch the packers on the roku app. Speaking of the app, I'm also very annoyed that short cuts is only available on it or the web now.
RE: That was the only thing keeping me with DirecTV.  
Diver_Down : 11/5/2018 7:45 pm : link
In comment 14166147 Brown Recluse said:
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I was a customer of theirs for probably about 17 years and I just dropped them a few months ago for streaming. I dont miss it at all. I watch everything I watched before for much less, and if the Giants arent on locally or nationally, I just stream the game too.


I have Comcast internet. When I was dumping DTV, I was going to opt for streaming my normal viewing. So after checking into getting a device and paying for subscription services, I had a baseline. I needed to increase my speed so I called up Comcast to do so, and they gave me a promo that was $5/month more than my baseline cost. So I have all my normal viewing and faster internet for $5/month more than what I was expecting to pay.

After the promo ends, I'll call up letting them know of my intention and see what they will offer.
They also get the added benefit  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/5/2018 8:06 pm : link
Of tracking what people like the most through digital tracking. It will help give us the customers more of what we want.
RE: That was the only thing keeping me with DirecTV.  
pjcas18 : 11/5/2018 8:13 pm : link
In comment 14166147 Brown Recluse said:
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I was a customer of theirs for probably about 17 years and I just dropped them a few months ago for streaming. I dont miss it at all. I watch everything I watched before for much less, and if the Giants arent on locally or nationally, I just stream the game too.


stream it illegally?
My issue with streaming is the quality.  
BH28 : 11/5/2018 8:14 pm : link
MLB.tv looks great on a ipad or laptop but the quality sucks on a large TV. Its 'HD' but nowhere near 1080p. Frame rate is also an issue.

Frame rate is an even bigger issue for fast action sports like NFL. I'd much rather watch the games through directv's service than through a streaming service. You are guaranteed the quality and frame rate will be consistent.

That's been my biggest beef with life streaming sports in 2018.
I got pissed at DirecTV for dicking me around  
SHO'NUFF : 11/5/2018 8:16 pm : link
so I said fuck you very much and streamed the games for free. Instead of $270 extra dollars from me this year, they got $0 because they refused to give me a $20 discount.
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FranchiseQB : 11/5/2018 8:25 pm : link
NFL ST is a pretty good service but MLB is the state of the art streaming service on the planet. Technologically they were ahead of everybody. I know someone there and he was astonished by their tech when he started many years ago.
RE: My issue with streaming is the quality.  
jlukes : 11/5/2018 8:44 pm : link
In comment 14166205 BH28 said:
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MLB.tv looks great on a ipad or laptop but the quality sucks on a large TV. Its 'HD' but nowhere near 1080p. Frame rate is also an issue.

Frame rate is an even bigger issue for fast action sports like NFL. I'd much rather watch the games through directv's service than through a streaming service. You are guaranteed the quality and frame rate will be consistent.

That's been my biggest beef with life streaming sports in 2018.


I have playstation vue and stream all of my live sports with it. Picture and frame rate is flawless
RE: RE: My issue with streaming is the quality.  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/5/2018 9:02 pm : link
In comment 14166237 jlukes said:
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In comment 14166205 BH28 said:


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MLB.tv looks great on a ipad or laptop but the quality sucks on a large TV. Its 'HD' but nowhere near 1080p. Frame rate is also an issue.

Frame rate is an even bigger issue for fast action sports like NFL. I'd much rather watch the games through directv's service than through a streaming service. You are guaranteed the quality and frame rate will be consistent.

That's been my biggest beef with life streaming sports in 2018.



I have playstation vue and stream all of my live sports with it. Picture and frame rate is flawless


I am trying to convince my wife to switch to a streaming service, and she is so against it.

Any selling points, I can tell her about besides the savings?

I'm sold I would have done it myself years ago.
RE: RE: My issue with streaming is the quality.  
BH28 : 11/6/2018 1:48 am : link
In comment 14166237 jlukes said:
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In comment 14166205 BH28 said:


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MLB.tv looks great on a ipad or laptop but the quality sucks on a large TV. Its 'HD' but nowhere near 1080p. Frame rate is also an issue.

Frame rate is an even bigger issue for fast action sports like NFL. I'd much rather watch the games through directv's service than through a streaming service. You are guaranteed the quality and frame rate will be consistent.

That's been my biggest beef with life streaming sports in 2018.



I have playstation vue and stream all of my live sports with it. Picture and frame rate is flawless


I stream on my PS4 also, but I'm out of market so Vue isn't viable for me. I'm starting to think the issue is with the non-native PS4 apps. MLB TV app was real bad this year and they IMO are the best of the sports at streaming.

I think if MLB TV Sunday ticket, etc were offered natively through Vue, it might be a different story because Sony takes a very apathetic approach to apps outside their ecosystem.

For instance, PS4 pro Amazon app doesn't even support 4k, I have to stream it through my TV's native app.
I'm about to drop Sunday Ticket  
Gman11 : 11/6/2018 7:50 am : link
because the only reason why I have it is to watch the Giants and often my hockey games interfere.

If I drop it, I'm dropping Directv too. I'm also tired of service going out because of rain.
Good, I dropped DTV for Hulu TV this year  
Ben in Tampa : 11/6/2018 11:47 am : link
and just use my brother-in-laws Sunday Ticket login to watch the games. The NFL is way behind here, and should be offering a streaming package. Absolutely no reason to keep it gated behind one provider.
When I was stationed in Germany  
USAF NYG Fan : 11/6/2018 12:35 pm : link
they had the option to purchase a season pass for online viewing. Live games but also all the previous games of the season were recorded. All HD. I loved it!

That is the model I would like them to use here instead of Direct TV. Basically a Netflix for the NFL. Purchase a game, a team's season, or the entire season with all teams. That would be perfect. I'd hope they team up with Hulu, Netflix, or one of the main providers because it will take while for smart TVs, Roku, etc to catchup and create an addon.

NFL streams are super easy to find  
Knineteen : 11/6/2018 1:25 pm : link
Why are people paying for this overpriced and outdated package again?
RE: NFL streams are super easy to find  
pjcas18 : 11/6/2018 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14167066 Knineteen said:
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Why are people paying for this overpriced and outdated package again?


Most of the streams are illegal and maybe people prefer not to break the law.
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Banks : 11/6/2018 2:22 pm : link
I'm surprised so many have issues in bad weather. I think I lost it once or twice in all these years and even then it was only for maybe 20 minutes. I actually like directv's service, but outside of football, I don't want or need all these channels. I also enjoy the wireless boxes they provide. That means during the football season I can move them to my game room where I have 3 TVs set up. I'm not illegally streaming so the ticket is my best option.
RE: RE: NFL streams are super easy to find  
USAF NYG Fan : 11/6/2018 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14167068 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14167066 Knineteen said:


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Why are people paying for this overpriced and outdated package again?



Most of the streams are illegal and maybe people prefer not to break the law.


They are also unreliable. I've tried a lot of them and then some. The quality is rarely as good and the streams go down all the time. The streaming I used from nfl.com was very high quality and I never had a problem with them.

Also, yes, it's illegal.
RE: RE: NFL streams are super easy to find  
Knineteen : 11/6/2018 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14167068 pjcas18 said:
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Most of the streams are illegal and maybe people prefer not to break the law.

First off, they are ALL illegal.
Secondly, I respect that opinion; but find it meaningless. A billion dollar "non-profit" organization that can pay for whatever laws they want...doesn't seem like an even playing field.
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