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| Eli Manning will continue to serve as the starting quarterback of the New York Giants at least through their Week 10 game against the San Francisco 49ers on Monday Night Football. Coming out of the bye week, some fans wondered if head coach Pat Shurmur would make the decision to bench Manning for rookie quarterback Kyle Lauletta. Those expectations died down a bit after Lauletta was arrested on a traffic violation. Lauletta will not start in Week 10 against the 49ers. On Tuesday, Shurmur told Giants reporters Manning would remain his starter in Week 10. Shurmur also added that he specifically spoke with Manning and the entire team about needing to play better and why it isn't good enough for the Giants to be "almost" in these games, as Manning has described at times in radio spots when assessing the team's offense after losses. |
You gotta believe, I know Shurmur found the answers during the bye week.
FYI - other teams (i.e., Saints) activate 3 QBs.
Not saying we should, just that it's not unheard of.
Can’t answer the question on why he was drafted definitively but I’m guessing the plan was to have Eli and the OLine not suck and allow Lauletta to redshirt.
Citing Lauletta coming from a 1-AA school as reason not to use him is idiotic. Then why even invest a 4th round pick?
It's Webb/Nassib all over again.....
As for not being "ready"? Either he is not talented enough, or he is not ready? 5 other rookie qb's were "ready", but outs is not?
Exactly, It sure was not a problem for Wentz but these are the types of mistakes the Giants make all the time during their drafts that just get overlooked for some reason.
As for this 'Lauletta went to a small school'...WTF?
Shurmur has been a real disappointment thus far.
This is such an outdated model.
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Christ this team fucking sucks.
Can’t answer the question on why he was drafted definitively but I’m guessing the plan was to have Eli and the OLine not suck and allow Lauletta to redshirt.
Plans can change if competent people are implementing them. The 49ers just won a game on a short week with a guy from the practice squad that was undrafted out of Southern Miss.
We used a 4th round pick on Lauletta. That's not a premium pick, but it's not a throw away either. I'm not expecting him to come out and have a Drew Brees-level mastery of the offense, but I do expect that he could play right now if called upon. Otherwise, what's the point?
You are probably right Matt. And watch this team win the next 2 games and BBI will be all fired up.
I think we’d do considerably better having Barkley run the wildcat.
Best chance to win...LOFL.
I'm frustrated too, but I don't agree with this logic. You can draft a QB to develop in the 4th round. Not being ready halfway through his rookie season is an indictment of the pick, it's just a consequence of "plan A" going to shit.
Yeah, it makes no sense to me. There were a couple of guards that I would have preferred to a third string QB who apparently will never see the field.
The advantage we have in this situation is that we don't have an enormous investment in Lauletta. If we play him, he fails, and it destroys him, then it only costs us the 4th rounder we spent on him. But if we play him and he's competent, it could completely change how we approach this offseason - including a premium draft pick.
Here's the other issue: as the losses continue to add up so will our population on the IR. If we wait until weeks 15 or 16 to play Lauletta there's a good chance he's going to be surrounded by a skeleton crew. Now is the time to play him with our first string to try to pull something meaningful out of this season.
This guy is a potential lottery ticket, and we won't drive to the fucking 7-11 to even see if we won. The people running this team don't know what they are doing.
+1 - the poor decision making continues. There's absolutely no reason for him to be #3 at this point, stupid traffic infraction or small school notwithstanding.
And I'd dress Lauletta as the #2, if not this week then next. Going into the offseason without any clue on what you have in Lauletta is idiotic.
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is that maybe he's just not ready, so why kill a young player's confidence by putting him in a situation where he is doomed to fail, especially behind an OL that would make it difficult for even a veteran QB to succeed behind?
The advantage we have in this situation is that we don't have an enormous investment in Lauletta. If we play him, he fails, and it destroys him, then it only costs us the 4th rounder we spent on him. But if we play him and he's competent, it could completely change how we approach this offseason - including a premium draft pick.
Here's the other issue: as the losses continue to add up so will our population on the IR. If we wait until weeks 15 or 16 to play Lauletta there's a good chance he's going to be surrounded by a skeleton crew. Now is the time to play him with our first string to try to pull something meaningful out of this season.
This guy is a potential lottery ticket, and we won't drive to the fucking 7-11 to even see if we won. The people running this team don't know what they are doing.
Just because he's a fourth rounder doesn't mean you throw him to the dogs and treat him like a disposable item whose confidence is irrelevant. And with the OL being what it is, there is a good chance that you will have no idea what KL is. Finally, I highly doubt that anything KL does would change the team's opinion if a blue chip QB was available to them in the 2019 draft.
Isn’t Shurmur supposed to be a QB guru? Well, let’s put that to the test...
Playing Eli is simply this - THE EASY WAY OUT.
I would play Eli too if I were Shurmur. And that's a huge part of the problem with the organization of this team: Shurmur isn't tasked with taking the global view. He's trying to turn a 2-14 season into a 5-11 season, and that isn't as important as considering the general direction of the organization.
Not unusual, it took Eli a few months to get on the field, and he stunk it up for awhile.
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He's going to prepare and play the QB he feels is the best chance to win. I'm as frustrated with Eli as the rest here, but also realize PS/coaches/players are working to try and keep their jobs too.
I would play Eli too if I were Shurmur. And that's a huge part of the problem with the organization of this team: Shurmur isn't tasked with taking the global view. He's trying to turn a 2-14 season into a 5-11 season, and that isn't as important as considering the general direction of the organization.
I get it, but I can't think of another football team that's done it much differently in recent history. They default to the ideology of people being given the chance to keep their jobs, at all levels.
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He's going to prepare and play the QB he feels is the best chance to win. I'm as frustrated with Eli as the rest here, but also realize PS/coaches/players are working to try and keep their jobs too.
I would play Eli too if I were Shurmur. And that's a huge part of the problem with the organization of this team: Shurmur isn't tasked with taking the global view. He's trying to turn a 2-14 season into a 5-11 season, and that isn't as important as considering the general direction of the organization.
Yup, more of the same. Year to year mentality. The narrative at the end of the season will be, let’s give Shurmur another year. Then we’ll go 7-9 & Shurmur will be presented with a win or else mandate in 2020.
So predictable.
Citing Lauletta coming from a 1-AA school as reason not to use him is idiotic. Then why even invest a 4th round pick?
Sounds familiar. You said the same thing about TC even after he won the SBs..:)
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He's going to prepare and play the QB he feels is the best chance to win. I'm as frustrated with Eli as the rest here, but also realize PS/coaches/players are working to try and keep their jobs too.
I would play Eli too if I were Shurmur. And that's a huge part of the problem with the organization of this team: Shurmur isn't tasked with taking the global view. He's trying to turn a 2-14 season into a 5-11 season, and that isn't as important as considering the general direction of the organization.
Where is this second win coming from? I still don't see one on the schedule.
FYI - other teams (i.e., Saints) activate 3 QBs.
Not saying we should, just that it's not unheard of.
OK, but Hill plays many roles for the team - KR, WC QB, slot back, so he's hardly a waste of a roster spot.
Good luck Eli 😊
Also, everyone is different, so it's not surprising that one person's path may not be the correct one for another. I don't think anecdotes about "so and so did this" or "it worked for so and so" are either helpful or terribly insightful.
So predictable.
This is exactly how I see it playing out.