they signed Brown last week .I was actually worried that they were not gonna put in a claim for him but i agree there have some been puzzling personal decisions so far
Davis can give them snaps at receiver more than Henderson can if any of the other guys go down .I would imagine if he clears waivers they will put him back on the practice squad .Also has Kamrin Moore even dressed for a game ? They are stashing him on the active roster it seems
Yeah, weird move as the guy seemed competent. Hardly worth all the ire.
Other than Henderson, it's been an utter clown show back there on punts. Letting him go to hang on to the kind of worthless dreck that makes up the bottom 10% of this roster makes absolutely no sense.
There's no plan here. Gettleman is simply blindly flailing around, making moves just so he can say he's DOING SOMETHING!!!!
Maybe they’ve thrown in the towel for this year and want to keep players who have an upside for next year. Coleman was a high draft choice so maybe in their minds he could be the 3rd WR next year. You should be able to find another guy like Henderson. Or, not likely anyone claims Henderson so you bring him back soon
why cut a guy one of the few guys on this team that was doing their job. You could have cut any lineman or anyone else on a long list of guys who are terrible at their job off this team.
DG: "Morning ladies, everybody have a good week off? I spent my time in the film room watching the Hog Mollies and trying to figure out a way to get the Hand of God to touch the team. How about you nancy fucks?"
PS: "It was good, boss. I scoured Monster.com for grocery bagging jobs and drank a lot. Wait! Did I just say that out loud?"
TQ: "Kewl! Any luck?"
PS: "Got an interview at the Stop n Shop next week. Fingers crossed!"
MS: "Pretty good, Mr. Gettleman."
DG: "Who the fuck are you, shitstain? And what are you doing in my meeting?"
PS: "This is our OC, boss."
DG: "This is our new Center? Little small with some serious bitch tits. Are you a Hog Mollie, son?"
MS: "Uh, no no. I'm a coach, sir!"
DG: "What do you coach? Failure? Amiright, amiright? Eh, comrades?"
PS: "Boss, I figured we'd start with Special Teams this week."
DG: "Special alright. Like Special Olympics! They're fuckin terrible. Where's that idiot Quinn? He still around?"
TQ: "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..."
PS: "We can start with grading from the coordinator."
DG: "OK. McGoo or whatever, right? What ya got? And hurry it up, I want to announce my newest Hog Mollie. Got this guy right off the scrap heap. Eat shit, 9ers!"
TM: "Well, Quadree Henderson graded out as our best player - by far - for the second week in a row. Solid job on fair catches, didn't give up any yards. Heels on the 10 on punts, no mistakes there. Really reliable. Showed some nice vision and burst on returns and gave us solid field position. I really like this guy - a very solid pickup by the staff."
PS: "I agree, Thomas. He's been a very pleasant surprise. Good combination of playing it smart and taking a chance when the time is right. Plus it keeps Odell in our back pocket. I really, really like the kid. When our defense actually stops the other team, it's nice to have a guy back there who's reliable and can possibly break one. And I wouldn't mind discussing a deal in the offseason. Again, great job by our crew picking him up."
DG: "Yeah? How nice. We're going to go ahead and release him. I want him out of the building immediately."
years the best we could hope for on punt returns was a successful fair catch. Henderson actually advanced the ball. Who cares if he isn't a receiver? We have OBJ, SS, Engram, and Barkley. Henderson was never going to get snaps as a WR. At least let's see what he can do for the rest of this dreadful season.
Losing faith in Gettleman and this FO. I really thought he was the guy to turn it around but it's head scratcher after scratcher out of this bunch. And Alex Tanney and his stellar ability still stay on the active roster, it's mind numbingly stupid at this point.
There hasn't been any indication that this front office/coaching staff values special teams and/or has any attention to detail, so this makes sense.
Watch the good teams and then juxtapose them with the Giants. It's jarring. Some examples I've noticed:
- The Saints had far less need at QB entering the season than we did - yet they acquired Teddy Bridgewater. They have an excellent athlete at backup QB in Taysom Hill, who they claimed off waivers after the Packers cut him (undrafted out of BYU). Look at how he's been used...he's been a difference maker. This week the Saints brought in Dez Bryant to take a look and see if he can help their passing game in the middle of the field. This is a creative team that isn't resting on their laurels.
- I don't have to go into how creative the Chiefs have been. They have used mid round picks to get Hill, Hunt, and Kelce, whereas the Giants have used premium picks for Barkley, Beckham, and Engram. The production of the two offenses couldn't be more different.
- The Pats traded a 6th round pick for Cordarelle Patterson in March. He has improved their kick return game (attention to detail), and this past week when James White got hurt Patterson filled in effectively as a running back in a win over Green Bay (creativity). Could you imagine us utilizing, say, Evan Engram as effectively? Engram was supposed to be a matchup nightmare for us - but he's only got 17 catches in 5 games.
- The Rams went into New Orleans this weekend and could have gotten their doors blown off. I don't know what McVay said or did at halftime, but whatever adjustments he implemented worked as the Rams came back and almost beat the Saints. I know they lost, but I came away from that game confident I was watching the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.
What adjustments do the Giants make? How are they creative? What do they do to maximize the potential of their explosive players? What attention to detail do they exhibit on special teams?
The four teams I mentioned above are probably the four best coached teams in the NFL. If you haven't gotten the chance to watch them, do it. Remind yourself of what football is supposed to look like.
He got handed the keys to a Panthers organization that had Cam Newton and Kuechly already on the team, two great pieces to build around. His drafting with them was just ok and he was fired.
Believing he was the right man for this job was more blind faith than anything.
That's what guzzling down the Gettleman kool aid will get you Â
There hasn't been any indication that this front office/coaching staff values special teams and/or has any attention to detail, so this makes sense.
Watch the good teams and then juxtapose them with the Giants. It's jarring. Some examples I've noticed:
- The Saints had far less need at QB entering the season than we did - yet they acquired Teddy Bridgewater. They have an excellent athlete at backup QB in Taysom Hill, who they claimed off waivers after the Packers cut him (undrafted out of BYU). Look at how he's been used...he's been a difference maker. This week the Saints brought in Dez Bryant to take a look and see if he can help their passing game in the middle of the field. This is a creative team that isn't resting on their laurels.
- I don't have to go into how creative the Chiefs have been. They have used mid round picks to get Hill, Hunt, and Kelce, whereas the Giants have used premium picks for Barkley, Beckham, and Engram. The production of the two offenses couldn't be more different.
- The Pats traded a 6th round pick for Cordarelle Patterson in March. He has improved their kick return game (attention to detail), and this past week when James White got hurt Patterson filled in effectively as a running back in a win over Green Bay (creativity). Could you imagine us utilizing, say, Evan Engram as effectively? Engram was supposed to be a matchup nightmare for us - but he's only got 17 catches in 5 games.
- The Rams went into New Orleans this weekend and could have gotten their doors blown off. I don't know what McVay said or did at halftime, but whatever adjustments he implemented worked as the Rams came back and almost beat the Saints. I know they lost, but I came away from that game confident I was watching the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.
What adjustments do the Giants make? How are they creative? What do they do to maximize the potential of their explosive players? What attention to detail do they exhibit on special teams?
The four teams I mentioned above are probably the four best coached teams in the NFL. If you haven't gotten the chance to watch them, do it. Remind yourself of what football is supposed to look like.
We literally signed 3 players noted primarily for their special teams ability in FA.
Henderson was the 2nd rated return man in the draft and he played very well here and they cut him? They should have cut Russell Shepard, Bennie Fowler, or Kamrin Moore instead.
Yeah, he did. I don't get this move.
He's the one guy who actually looked like he was competent at his job in recent weeks.
I have no idea what these guys are watching.
Managing expectations. If he broke one then the fans would expect a big return every now and then.
Really the only conclusion to draw at this point.
Yes. Still kind of a puzzler why it was a guy who actually showed something, when there's so much other dreck.
so they waived him. Not sure what's confusing or surprising.
Where the hell is George when you need him?
so they waived him. Not sure what's confusing or surprising.
Have you watched the cluster they have had for the last 25 games back there?
He was the only one that didn't constantly muff punts.
Let the fumbling begin!
Yeah, weird move as the guy seemed competent. Hardly worth all the ire.
Coleman might actually be the reason they’re making this move.
Hard to believe that there wasn’t a more expendable player - this roster is full of them.
Yeah, weird move as the guy seemed competent. Hardly worth all the ire.
Other than Henderson, it's been an utter clown show back there on punts. Letting him go to hang on to the kind of worthless dreck that makes up the bottom 10% of this roster makes absolutely no sense.
There's no plan here. Gettleman is simply blindly flailing around, making moves just so he can say he's DOING SOMETHING!!!!
PS: "It was good, boss. I scoured Monster.com for grocery bagging jobs and drank a lot. Wait! Did I just say that out loud?"
TQ: "Kewl! Any luck?"
PS: "Got an interview at the Stop n Shop next week. Fingers crossed!"
MS: "Pretty good, Mr. Gettleman."
DG: "Who the fuck are you, shitstain? And what are you doing in my meeting?"
PS: "This is our OC, boss."
DG: "This is our new Center? Little small with some serious bitch tits. Are you a Hog Mollie, son?"
MS: "Uh, no no. I'm a coach, sir!"
DG: "What do you coach? Failure? Amiright, amiright? Eh, comrades?"
PS: "Boss, I figured we'd start with Special Teams this week."
DG: "Special alright. Like Special Olympics! They're fuckin terrible. Where's that idiot Quinn? He still around?"
TQ: "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..."
PS: "We can start with grading from the coordinator."
DG: "OK. McGoo or whatever, right? What ya got? And hurry it up, I want to announce my newest Hog Mollie. Got this guy right off the scrap heap. Eat shit, 9ers!"
TM: "Well, Quadree Henderson graded out as our best player - by far - for the second week in a row. Solid job on fair catches, didn't give up any yards. Heels on the 10 on punts, no mistakes there. Really reliable. Showed some nice vision and burst on returns and gave us solid field position. I really like this guy - a very solid pickup by the staff."
PS: "I agree, Thomas. He's been a very pleasant surprise. Good combination of playing it smart and taking a chance when the time is right. Plus it keeps Odell in our back pocket. I really, really like the kid. When our defense actually stops the other team, it's nice to have a guy back there who's reliable and can possibly break one. And I wouldn't mind discussing a deal in the offseason. Again, great job by our crew picking him up."
DG: "Yeah? How nice. We're going to go ahead and release him. I want him out of the building immediately."
so they waived him. Not sure what's confusing or surprising.
A luxury? He was dirt cheap.
Yes, Giants went two and half seasons without a punt return of more than 20 yards.
I sure hope someone with inside connections can make sense of this move to us.
Bennie Fowler? Russel Shepard? Corey Coleman?
Unless he is about to flunk a pee test, this makes no sense.
Unless there was some internal discipline issue, this stinks like my beer farts.
Watch the good teams and then juxtapose them with the Giants. It's jarring. Some examples I've noticed:
- The Saints had far less need at QB entering the season than we did - yet they acquired Teddy Bridgewater. They have an excellent athlete at backup QB in Taysom Hill, who they claimed off waivers after the Packers cut him (undrafted out of BYU). Look at how he's been used...he's been a difference maker. This week the Saints brought in Dez Bryant to take a look and see if he can help their passing game in the middle of the field. This is a creative team that isn't resting on their laurels.
- I don't have to go into how creative the Chiefs have been. They have used mid round picks to get Hill, Hunt, and Kelce, whereas the Giants have used premium picks for Barkley, Beckham, and Engram. The production of the two offenses couldn't be more different.
- The Pats traded a 6th round pick for Cordarelle Patterson in March. He has improved their kick return game (attention to detail), and this past week when James White got hurt Patterson filled in effectively as a running back in a win over Green Bay (creativity). Could you imagine us utilizing, say, Evan Engram as effectively? Engram was supposed to be a matchup nightmare for us - but he's only got 17 catches in 5 games.
- The Rams went into New Orleans this weekend and could have gotten their doors blown off. I don't know what McVay said or did at halftime, but whatever adjustments he implemented worked as the Rams came back and almost beat the Saints. I know they lost, but I came away from that game confident I was watching the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.
What adjustments do the Giants make? How are they creative? What do they do to maximize the potential of their explosive players? What attention to detail do they exhibit on special teams?
The four teams I mentioned above are probably the four best coached teams in the NFL. If you haven't gotten the chance to watch them, do it. Remind yourself of what football is supposed to look like.
He got handed the keys to a Panthers organization that had Cam Newton and Kuechly already on the team, two great pieces to build around. His drafting with them was just ok and he was fired.
Believing he was the right man for this job was more blind faith than anything.
I think it ALL has to do with Jawill Davis (because of his "gunner" ability ?)
He was forgettable at best. What's the uproar?
He was forgettable at best. What's the uproar?
Why would Giants fans have a strong memory of a good returner?
Anyway, what's you point? He's not Devin Hester so toss him in the trash?
He was forgettable at best. What's the uproar?
Did you forget what was muffing returns before he took over?
We haven't had a consistent returner for 2 and half years.
Watch the good teams and then juxtapose them with the Giants. It's jarring. Some examples I've noticed:
- The Saints had far less need at QB entering the season than we did - yet they acquired Teddy Bridgewater. They have an excellent athlete at backup QB in Taysom Hill, who they claimed off waivers after the Packers cut him (undrafted out of BYU). Look at how he's been used...he's been a difference maker. This week the Saints brought in Dez Bryant to take a look and see if he can help their passing game in the middle of the field. This is a creative team that isn't resting on their laurels.
- I don't have to go into how creative the Chiefs have been. They have used mid round picks to get Hill, Hunt, and Kelce, whereas the Giants have used premium picks for Barkley, Beckham, and Engram. The production of the two offenses couldn't be more different.
- The Pats traded a 6th round pick for Cordarelle Patterson in March. He has improved their kick return game (attention to detail), and this past week when James White got hurt Patterson filled in effectively as a running back in a win over Green Bay (creativity). Could you imagine us utilizing, say, Evan Engram as effectively? Engram was supposed to be a matchup nightmare for us - but he's only got 17 catches in 5 games.
- The Rams went into New Orleans this weekend and could have gotten their doors blown off. I don't know what McVay said or did at halftime, but whatever adjustments he implemented worked as the Rams came back and almost beat the Saints. I know they lost, but I came away from that game confident I was watching the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.
What adjustments do the Giants make? How are they creative? What do they do to maximize the potential of their explosive players? What attention to detail do they exhibit on special teams?
The four teams I mentioned above are probably the four best coached teams in the NFL. If you haven't gotten the chance to watch them, do it. Remind yourself of what football is supposed to look like.
We literally signed 3 players noted primarily for their special teams ability in FA.
...this guy looked really good in the return game.
Quick acceleration; no hesitation; picked his line and off he went.
But Dave Gettleman knows best.
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is a luxury the Giants just don't deserve.
so they waived him. Not sure what's confusing or surprising.
A luxury? He was dirt cheap.
Holy shit, it wasn't obvious my post was sarcastic? Arc? Give me a ruling on this please.
i like this one the best...
Gettlewmn and Shurmur were killing.
BUT THIS?????
Now we done.
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is a luxury the Giants just don't deserve.
so they waived him. Not sure what's confusing or surprising.
A luxury? He was dirt cheap.
Holy shit, it wasn't obvious my post was sarcastic? Arc? Give me a ruling on this please.
you are kinda chrisr-lite, so no it wasn't obvious.
It is a silly move but it's not like other teams are lining up for his services.