Losing faith in Gettleman and this FO. I really thought he was the guy to turn it around but it's head scratcher after scratcher out of this bunch. And Alex Tanney and his stellar ability still stay on the active roster, it's mind numbingly stupid at this point.
There hasn't been any indication that this front office/coaching staff values special teams and/or has any attention to detail, so this makes sense.
Watch the good teams and then juxtapose them with the Giants. It's jarring. Some examples I've noticed:
- The Saints had far less need at QB entering the season than we did - yet they acquired Teddy Bridgewater. They have an excellent athlete at backup QB in Taysom Hill, who they claimed off waivers after the Packers cut him (undrafted out of BYU). Look at how he's been used...he's been a difference maker. This week the Saints brought in Dez Bryant to take a look and see if he can help their passing game in the middle of the field. This is a creative team that isn't resting on their laurels.
- I don't have to go into how creative the Chiefs have been. They have used mid round picks to get Hill, Hunt, and Kelce, whereas the Giants have used premium picks for Barkley, Beckham, and Engram. The production of the two offenses couldn't be more different.
- The Pats traded a 6th round pick for Cordarelle Patterson in March. He has improved their kick return game (attention to detail), and this past week when James White got hurt Patterson filled in effectively as a running back in a win over Green Bay (creativity). Could you imagine us utilizing, say, Evan Engram as effectively? Engram was supposed to be a matchup nightmare for us - but he's only got 17 catches in 5 games.
- The Rams went into New Orleans this weekend and could have gotten their doors blown off. I don't know what McVay said or did at halftime, but whatever adjustments he implemented worked as the Rams came back and almost beat the Saints. I know they lost, but I came away from that game confident I was watching the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.
What adjustments do the Giants make? How are they creative? What do they do to maximize the potential of their explosive players? What attention to detail do they exhibit on special teams?
The four teams I mentioned above are probably the four best coached teams in the NFL. If you haven't gotten the chance to watch them, do it. Remind yourself of what football is supposed to look like.
He got handed the keys to a Panthers organization that had Cam Newton and Kuechly already on the team, two great pieces to build around. His drafting with them was just ok and he was fired.
Believing he was the right man for this job was more blind faith than anything.
That's what guzzling down the Gettleman kool aid will get you Â
There hasn't been any indication that this front office/coaching staff values special teams and/or has any attention to detail, so this makes sense.
Watch the good teams and then juxtapose them with the Giants. It's jarring. Some examples I've noticed:
- The Saints had far less need at QB entering the season than we did - yet they acquired Teddy Bridgewater. They have an excellent athlete at backup QB in Taysom Hill, who they claimed off waivers after the Packers cut him (undrafted out of BYU). Look at how he's been used...he's been a difference maker. This week the Saints brought in Dez Bryant to take a look and see if he can help their passing game in the middle of the field. This is a creative team that isn't resting on their laurels.
- I don't have to go into how creative the Chiefs have been. They have used mid round picks to get Hill, Hunt, and Kelce, whereas the Giants have used premium picks for Barkley, Beckham, and Engram. The production of the two offenses couldn't be more different.
- The Pats traded a 6th round pick for Cordarelle Patterson in March. He has improved their kick return game (attention to detail), and this past week when James White got hurt Patterson filled in effectively as a running back in a win over Green Bay (creativity). Could you imagine us utilizing, say, Evan Engram as effectively? Engram was supposed to be a matchup nightmare for us - but he's only got 17 catches in 5 games.
- The Rams went into New Orleans this weekend and could have gotten their doors blown off. I don't know what McVay said or did at halftime, but whatever adjustments he implemented worked as the Rams came back and almost beat the Saints. I know they lost, but I came away from that game confident I was watching the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.
What adjustments do the Giants make? How are they creative? What do they do to maximize the potential of their explosive players? What attention to detail do they exhibit on special teams?
The four teams I mentioned above are probably the four best coached teams in the NFL. If you haven't gotten the chance to watch them, do it. Remind yourself of what football is supposed to look like.
We literally signed 3 players noted primarily for their special teams ability in FA.
Henderson was the 2nd rated return man in the draft and he played very well here and they cut him? They should have cut Russell Shepard, Bennie Fowler, or Kamrin Moore instead.
I sure hope someone with inside connections can make sense of this move to us.
Bennie Fowler? Russel Shepard? Corey Coleman?
Unless he is about to flunk a pee test, this makes no sense.
Unless there was some internal discipline issue, this stinks like my beer farts.
Watch the good teams and then juxtapose them with the Giants. It's jarring. Some examples I've noticed:
- The Saints had far less need at QB entering the season than we did - yet they acquired Teddy Bridgewater. They have an excellent athlete at backup QB in Taysom Hill, who they claimed off waivers after the Packers cut him (undrafted out of BYU). Look at how he's been used...he's been a difference maker. This week the Saints brought in Dez Bryant to take a look and see if he can help their passing game in the middle of the field. This is a creative team that isn't resting on their laurels.
- I don't have to go into how creative the Chiefs have been. They have used mid round picks to get Hill, Hunt, and Kelce, whereas the Giants have used premium picks for Barkley, Beckham, and Engram. The production of the two offenses couldn't be more different.
- The Pats traded a 6th round pick for Cordarelle Patterson in March. He has improved their kick return game (attention to detail), and this past week when James White got hurt Patterson filled in effectively as a running back in a win over Green Bay (creativity). Could you imagine us utilizing, say, Evan Engram as effectively? Engram was supposed to be a matchup nightmare for us - but he's only got 17 catches in 5 games.
- The Rams went into New Orleans this weekend and could have gotten their doors blown off. I don't know what McVay said or did at halftime, but whatever adjustments he implemented worked as the Rams came back and almost beat the Saints. I know they lost, but I came away from that game confident I was watching the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.
What adjustments do the Giants make? How are they creative? What do they do to maximize the potential of their explosive players? What attention to detail do they exhibit on special teams?
The four teams I mentioned above are probably the four best coached teams in the NFL. If you haven't gotten the chance to watch them, do it. Remind yourself of what football is supposed to look like.
He got handed the keys to a Panthers organization that had Cam Newton and Kuechly already on the team, two great pieces to build around. His drafting with them was just ok and he was fired.
Believing he was the right man for this job was more blind faith than anything.
I think it ALL has to do with Jawill Davis (because of his "gunner" ability ?)
He was forgettable at best. What's the uproar?
He was forgettable at best. What's the uproar?
Why would Giants fans have a strong memory of a good returner?
Anyway, what's you point? He's not Devin Hester so toss him in the trash?
He was forgettable at best. What's the uproar?
Did you forget what was muffing returns before he took over?
We haven't had a consistent returner for 2 and half years.
Watch the good teams and then juxtapose them with the Giants. It's jarring. Some examples I've noticed:
- The Saints had far less need at QB entering the season than we did - yet they acquired Teddy Bridgewater. They have an excellent athlete at backup QB in Taysom Hill, who they claimed off waivers after the Packers cut him (undrafted out of BYU). Look at how he's been used...he's been a difference maker. This week the Saints brought in Dez Bryant to take a look and see if he can help their passing game in the middle of the field. This is a creative team that isn't resting on their laurels.
- I don't have to go into how creative the Chiefs have been. They have used mid round picks to get Hill, Hunt, and Kelce, whereas the Giants have used premium picks for Barkley, Beckham, and Engram. The production of the two offenses couldn't be more different.
- The Pats traded a 6th round pick for Cordarelle Patterson in March. He has improved their kick return game (attention to detail), and this past week when James White got hurt Patterson filled in effectively as a running back in a win over Green Bay (creativity). Could you imagine us utilizing, say, Evan Engram as effectively? Engram was supposed to be a matchup nightmare for us - but he's only got 17 catches in 5 games.
- The Rams went into New Orleans this weekend and could have gotten their doors blown off. I don't know what McVay said or did at halftime, but whatever adjustments he implemented worked as the Rams came back and almost beat the Saints. I know they lost, but I came away from that game confident I was watching the NFC rep in the Super Bowl.
What adjustments do the Giants make? How are they creative? What do they do to maximize the potential of their explosive players? What attention to detail do they exhibit on special teams?
The four teams I mentioned above are probably the four best coached teams in the NFL. If you haven't gotten the chance to watch them, do it. Remind yourself of what football is supposed to look like.
We literally signed 3 players noted primarily for their special teams ability in FA.
...this guy looked really good in the return game.
Quick acceleration; no hesitation; picked his line and off he went.
But Dave Gettleman knows best.
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is a luxury the Giants just don't deserve.
so they waived him. Not sure what's confusing or surprising.
A luxury? He was dirt cheap.
Holy shit, it wasn't obvious my post was sarcastic? Arc? Give me a ruling on this please.
i like this one the best...
Gettlewmn and Shurmur were killing.
BUT THIS?????
Now we done.
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is a luxury the Giants just don't deserve.
so they waived him. Not sure what's confusing or surprising.
A luxury? He was dirt cheap.
Holy shit, it wasn't obvious my post was sarcastic? Arc? Give me a ruling on this please.
you are kinda chrisr-lite, so no it wasn't obvious.
It is a silly move but it's not like other teams are lining up for his services.