4-20 must have felt similar to the 70's as Giants fans

There was NO hope.

I recall Frank Gifford commenting on a Monday Night (about the Giants) "there's no single man worthy of the uniform, on the field, tonight !"

The 70s were hopeless. I will take today’s 4-20 any day of the week.

compared to the misery of the late 60's and 70's. I was a kid growing up in the glory days of the 56 championship and 5 National Championship appearances between 1958 and 1963. Then the bottom fell out and between 1964 and 1978 only 2 winning seasons and 0 playoff appearances. We were fed false hope continually, until Pete Rozelle intervened and George Young came around. That's why I want this mess cleaned up quickly, no fruitless sentimentality. Get back to winning.

so popular during that era was due to the horrible Giants teams.
Most Giants fans would watch every game knowing there was NO chance they could do anything, then flip on "real" football to watch the teams that might go to the playoffs.

was like. At least there is talent here...and great talent...but you can’t let the foundation of your team deteriorate like it has.

In the 70’s, we had nothing...I mean Joe Pisarcik...areject from the CFL...was our QB. Outside of Van Pelt, can’t think of another 1st rounder who worked out. Troy Archer looked good then he was killed in a car accident.

I just read about the drafting of Rocky Thompson...a pick only an insane organization could make

but it's really bad now. But keep in mind this is only 2 years. If this keeps up for another 2 or 3 years it will be getting into that area. The biggest similarities and the most alarming part of what is going on now is that the owners seem completely lost and worried about all the wrong things.

the Frank Tarkenton years, 67-71, except for the last season, were fun to watch.....but before and after was unreal....

Good idea.

Our record the past two years..... Got it

"Dark Ages" as a fan we just wanted to see a competitive game with no expectation of winning. Its harder now due to seeing this team win multiple super bowls.

I’ll take 4-20 over zero hope 1964-1980 anytime

He was hopeless as a judge of talent, consequently, there was no hope. Today ownership is willing to hire GMs who are able to evaluate talent. DG may not be that guy, but if he's not, ownership will find somebody who is that guy. Today is not hopeless. Wellington made the 70s hopeless.

Frank?

things can flip pretty quickly because of FA. Then your teams only chance was the draft.

Was much harder to watch than today,s version. When Dave Jennings was your best offensive weapon, it was hopeless. We had absolutely nothing on the offensive side of the ball. No comparison, in my opinion.

1973 & 1974 when they finished 12-11-1 & 2-2 respectively.

Last season the Giants set a franchise record with 13 losses in a season.

The Giants worst single season was 1966 when they finished 1-12-1 and yielded 501 points in doing so, an absurd number for a 14-game season!

Sadly, 2017 & 2018 might set a new low for futility.

In comment 14167740 truebluelarry said:

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1973 & 1974 when they finished 2-11-1 & 2-2 respectively. Last season the Giants set a franchise record with 13 losses in a season. The Giants worst single season was 1966 when they finished 1-12-1 and yielded 501 points in doing so, an absurd number for a 14-game season! Sadly, 2017 & 2018 might set a new low for futility.

Whoops, they were 2-11-1 in 1973.

since Head Coaches didn't make enough money back then to just be Head Coaches year round.

We were terrible in 70's because Mara was running the draft and trying to do the merger at the same time. He was the face of the merger.

Alex basically told Mara this before the 73 draft, that if he would actually focus on the team and acquire some talent the team wouldn't be in the shape it was in. That ended up being Alex's last season as Head Coach.

When they drafted Van Pelt, Alex told my grandpa he was excited since Van Pelt's wife was a looker lol.

In comment 14167482 Manny in CA said:

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There was NO hope. I recall Frank Gifford commenting on a Monday Night (about the Giants) "there's no single man worthy of the uniform, on the field, tonight !"

What kind of hope do we have right now? We have to great players and that's kind of it. We also just completely gutted the team midseason, when that should have been done in the offseason.

Don't be fooled:

Chris Mara is the SR VP of Player Personnel. How's that working out for you? Gettleman is a figurehead/consensus builder just like Reese was. It's deja vu all over again.

blacked out in the NY market in the early 70's when they played at the Yale Bowl and Shea Stadium ?

It was just such long a period of time with so much mismanagement and losing I don't know if that could ever be repeated but some of these losses do have a very 70's feel to them. But it is not close in terms of misery because this team is still such a short period of time away from championships. Fans of those teams went through most of the 60's, all of the 70's and half of the 80's before we could taste that. Then to rub salt in the wounds the division had the Cowboys becoming "Americas" team always kicking our tails and (at least in my book) the most disliked man in the NFL George Allen rubbing our noses in it for so many years as HC of the Redskins. Thanks goodness at least the Cardinals were in our division back then.

In comment 14167835 BIG FRED 1973 said:

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blacked out in the NY market in the early 70's when they played at the Yale Bowl and Shea Stadium ?

No. Pete Rozelle made an exemption for the Giants in 1973, and in 1974 the league-wide rule that remains in effect today was passed that says as long as a home game is sold out 72 hours in advance it may be broadcast in the home market.

As an aside, the Giants also made an exemption for season ticket holders to not be required to purchase their season tickets in 1974, and that they could retain their subscription when the team returned to New York. The Giants played their first two home games in Yankee Stadium before being ousted by Mayor Lindsay.

In comment 14167524 Tom in NY said:

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so popular during that era was due to the horrible Giants teams. Most Giants fans would watch every game knowing there was NO chance they could do anything, then flip on "real" football to watch the teams that might go to the playoffs.

Yup, tons of my friends growing up jumped those bandwagons in the 70s because NYG and NYJ stunk.

in the 70's. Makes a big difference. I became a Giants fan in 1966. They were 1-12-1. I had to wait twenty years for the first Super Bowl.

And it really started post 1963. There was no hope.

Just imagine what 1969 was like when the Jets won the Super Bowl.

However, it is not true that there was no one worthy of the uniform. Craig Morton was the QB Ron Johnson the RB Bob Tucker was the tight end, The defense included Jack Gregory, John Mendenhall, Brian Kelly, Brad Van Pelt, Chuck Crist and Spider Lockhart. The offensive line was offensive: John Hicks, drafted 2 overall, made Eric Flowers look like a sound draft pick and my namesake Willy Young who my college roommate claimed had the "best hands in the league" because he was constantly holding