Giants traditionally do not fire Head Coaches or General Managers
But it could be argued that the Giants are WORSE this year than last.
Looking at schedule for rest of year (which is easier than first half)
We have at least 2 winnable games remaining
San Fran and Tampa Bay
We play in one of the weakest divisions in football
I think we should be able to win one division game
( maybe last game Dallas at home if it is meaningless game)
So in my estimate the most realistic scenario Giants end up 4 -12
(If Giants win more than 4 games then Shurmur is definitely coming back)
But it is entirely possible Giants only win one more game (Tampa Bay)
and end up 2- 14
Or maybe the team quits and Giants lose out and we end up 1-15
What record will get Shurmur fired? or is this year a mulligan for the new coach and he is guaranteed back regardless of record?
I disagree, respectfully of course. I think 1-15 he would keep his job, UNLESS he 100% lost the locker room. Which doesn't look like the case thus far.
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4-12 or worse will be the end of PS.
I disagree, respectfully of course. I think 1-15 he would keep his job, UNLESS he 100% lost the locker room. Which doesn't look like the case thus far.
Ask again next year. I'm not sure even next year will be an option.
we are 1-7, with 5 losses by 7 points or less.....
If we come back from the bye and lose to one of the 3 worst teams in the NFL, continue to lose, and get blown out of games, then maybe.....
The cherry on the top would be a lot of empty seats in the stands....
Shurmur and his guys should be taken to the woodshed...
I think that is the season that he's going to have to have a winning record in order to keep his job.
And, this team is not going to be good until then, we are in the middle of a 3 year rebuild here
Shurmur and his guys should be taken to the woodshed...
The only thing that hasnt changed is.......
The Quarterback
just sayin
This could be an even longer rebuild....
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can add Barkley and get OBJ back and we can only win 1 game thus far. No better than last year.
Shurmur and his guys should be taken to the woodshed...
The only thing that hasnt changed is.......
The Quarterback
just sayin
Not true. The quality of the OL hasn’t changed it’s actually gotten worse given they’ve already given up as many sacks as last year in half the games.
JPP is lining up on the other side. He'll go against Wheeler.
The last part of your post actually has two meanings and I agree with both.
;>)
And can we please stop with the argument they were in “close 1 score games” ? The only close loss was Carolina. They were destroyed by Philly and Dallas and the NO/ ATL/ Skins games were never in doubt.
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In comment 14167664 Doomster said:
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I can't wait to see JPP vs Solder....that alone would make the game worth watching....
JPP is lining up on the other side. He'll go against Wheeler.
They aren't eating his salary this early.
There has to be at least 3 dead hookers in his hotel room in order for him to go.
Not yet a similar situation with PS.
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4-12 or worse will be the end of PS.
I disagree, respectfully of course. I think 1-15 he would keep his job, UNLESS he 100% lost the locker room. Which doesn't look like the case thus far.
The 1st one lasted 15 years from 1965-1980. The 2nd one which didn't last as long and actually had 1 playoff win was from 1991-1999. Lost weekend the 3rd is now 7 years year since the last playoff win anyone see an end in sight?
Besides that scenario, if we lose out, he keeps his job.
Its not even December. If this team lays down rest of season he's gone. And DG will "retire".
Yes, let's fire shurmur at the end of the year and bring in another coach so he can bring in another defensive coordinator and coaching staff, start all over again and we can have this discussion same time next year.
Go read Mara’s preseason quotes and tell me why that warrants another year.
We're halfway through with a draft of high picks and a healthy dose of FA spending, with 1 win to show for it despite being relatively healthy and the division sucking. It's really every bit as shitty as last year's campaign.
Shurmur and his guys should be taken to the woodshed...
That is a remarkable. Two of the best players in the league at their positions - positions that produce points - and we're currently at the top of the 2019 draft board.
Shurmur has been a monumental disappointment thus far a s strategist and developer. And his hiring of Hal Hunter looks to be an epic miss...
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can add Barkley and get OBJ back and we can only win 1 game thus far. No better than last year.
Shurmur and his guys should be taken to the woodshed...
That is a remarkable. Two of the best players in the league at their positions - positions that produce points - and we're currently at the top of the 2019 draft board.
Shurmur has been a monumental disappointment thus far a s strategist and developer. And his hiring of Hal Hunter looks to be an epic miss...
Not much has changed...
(a book excerpt)
Calling a time out, Coach Rockne brought them to the sidelines and pointed out to the four people whose job it was to carry the ball that they were absolutely useless on a football field unless everyone else was blocking.